posted December 17, 2014 11:38 PM            

How can we be so prudish yet worship half-naked idols at the same time?

I feel like our sexual liberation is more forced, and has to do with it being overt and in your face rather than just a natural part of human beings.

posted December 18, 2014 08:58 AM            

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posted December 18, 2014 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Jo B:
Ahh I remember those topless and sometimes nude beaches in the Greek Islands (I only went topless mind!). I remember hanging out on the beach during the day, watching Greek gods display their nether regions while they played frisbee.. and then not recognizing them later in the town that evening. My mother - whilst accompanying my sister and I on one such holiday and who modestly remained covered up - fondly remembers biting into a sausage sandwich just as a naked man was bending over 10 feet in front of her. Ahh happy naked memories.

It's funny how America is prudish in that regard yet LA is the hotbed of the porn industry though.

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posted December 19, 2014 12:38 AM            

And it's not just a spectrum...Japan is very conservative in some ways (despite its heavy pornographic side) but it confuses some Americans because it seems women over there tend to show off too much leg without noticing that their top side (including shoulders) tend to be covered up so that when a woman goes out baring her shoulders (but possibly covering more of her legs) can be surprised at how much leering or looks of disapproval she gets.

Likewise, I've heard from a Japanese American that it's a very bad idea to try to learn Japanese from anime (which tends to be so violent, erotic, and aggressively individualistic unlike the Japanese society that produces it) as it's considered rude and crude by the society that puts it out. In effect, it would be like trying to teach someone English by using South Park as a learning tool (though I must admit the potential for hilarity is great for that one...).

When fundies congregate at hotels the porn paid for also spikes...sexual misbehavior becomes more common at many anti-sex religious gatherings (in which many Caribbean islands are a major example of, but also church picnics, and I recall a news program busting those seeking children to molest OL who kept turning out to be preachers and such with one cop saying he wasn't even surprised when they netted another clergyman). I think I might understand this (having seen it myself in the Bible Belt), when you're told over and over not to think about it (and that sinners constantly are) then it's almost impossible not to which creates obsession which in many leads to action.

Lots of women who **** shame will also eagerly watch Sex and the City, Gossip Girl, etc.

On a related note I've seen many who feel inhibited from being assertive (let alone violent) are drawn to characters (both real life and fiction) who are and sometimes vice versa (one's soft side can also be inhibited). I'm curious how many from nations which embrace personal violence would enjoy violent video games if they had the money for them...it wouldn't surprise me if they found them pointless and boring.

From what I've heard, many "bronies" (adult men into the new My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic) are drawn to it despite not wanting to be just because it's so opposite of what they're used to that it's compelling. The bronies tend to be men who normally glower and are so serious, loners, and the like, it can be really surprising which men become bronies.

posted December 19, 2014 02:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

Nice, rape sounds fun, no need to argue

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What does rape have to do with anything?

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
That would be a terrible idea. This country is already messed up enough as it is.

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posted December 19, 2014 02:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
i'm afraid of STD's

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posted December 19, 2014 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
European countries can be quite different in this regard though. In Italy, there was once this porn actress-turned-politician named Ilona Staller aka Cicciolina who got elected to parliament. To draw media attention she would sometimes suddenly expose her breasts in public, and this would get her a photograph in some tabloid or other. I was told how she once tried this stunt in Scandinavia. Standing on the stairs of the Senate in the center of Finland's capital, she took off her top. Nothing happened. People walked her by and shrugged, no photos were taken. Then, a group of elderly country women walked by. They pointed fingers at her and giggled - that was all. Cicciolina was said to be very frustrated by this lack of attention to her nipples...

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Yes, I remember that. My Portuguese-born friend who lives in Sweden told me that, I'm pretty sure it's deeper than just a porn star getting elected to Parliament. Politics always been dirty business, sometimes they are even tried to the sex trade also.

posted December 19, 2014 08:55 AM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:

Yes, I remember that. My Portuguese-born friend who lives in Sweden told me that, I'm pretty sure it's deeper than just a porn star getting elected to Parliament. Politics always been dirty business, sometimes they are even tried to the sex trade also.

SN: That woman looks horrid.

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posted December 19, 2014 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Well, I guess my point was, behavior that seemed scandalous in Italy and generated a lot of publicity there, merely looked silly in Scandinavia. To me, this indicates that sexually more repressed societies will find such displays very noteworthy, while those which are less repressed will not overemphasize or scandalize the meaning of sex and nudity. You know, the appeal of "forbidden fruit" and so on…if it's not forbidden, it stops being so fascinating.

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posted December 19, 2014 02:53 PM            

Just as another example, consider the "F!ck for Forest" initiative of a few Scandinavian hippies who produced and sold home-made porn flicks to raise money for saving the rain forest. A film maker then made a sympathetic documentary about their project. I doubt very much that something like this would meet with so little public interest, or moral outrage, in eg. Italy or Spain as it did in Northern Europe.

posted December 19, 2014 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Well, I guess my point was, behavior that seemed scandalous in Italy and generated a lot of publicity there, merely looked silly in Scandinavia. To me, this indicates that sexually more repressed societies will find such displays very noteworthy, while those which are less repressed will not overemphasize or scandalize the meaning of sex and nudity. You know, the appeal of "forbidden fruit" and so on…if it's not forbidden, it stops being so fascinating.

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That reminds me of Miley at the VMA...so many tore their garments over that and yet it saved her career...just as similar shocking acts in the past have also saved failing musical careers. It was pure business...even curiouser is that Miley's dad sat on the council of the Parents Television Council that raised a stink about it and thus did more to save Miley's career but also used it as a fundraiser...in the end BOTH Miley and the PTC (with Miley's dad) profited, and they both need each other to survive.

posted December 19, 2014 06:52 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
That reminds me of Miley at the VMA...so many tore their garments over that and yet it saved her career...just as similar shocking acts in the past have also saved failing musical careers. It was pure business...even curiouser is that Miley's dad sat on the council of the Parents Television Council that raised a stink about it and thus did more to save Miley's career but also used it as a fundraiser...in the end BOTH Miley and the PTC (with Miley's dad) profited, and they both need each other to survive.

But this would have never worked in Sweden where people would've simply yawned.

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Yeah, I think so too, that whole act looked very calculated… and slightly off-putting in a weird way. Reminded me a little of Angelina Jolie's leg action a year or two before, in the way that it seemed somehow artificial and over-the-top.

posted February 27, 2015 06:27 AM            

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t3TzSnwCn4&app=desktop

posted February 27, 2015 06:30 PM            

I bet you'd love this...some women from Jezebel go to see the movie, one relates the experience:
http://jezebel.com/we-survived-an-opening-night-screening-of-fifty-shades-1685672861

From Jezebel magazine: We Survived an Opening Night Screening of Fifty Shades of Grey

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On Thursday night, the eight most masochistic members of the Jezebel staff attended the same screening of the endlessly harped-upon film adaptation of Fifty Shades of Grey. All eight of us lived to tell the tale. In fact, to our collective pleasant surprise, it wasn't even really that bad.

Because we were all well-aware of the sort of misery an undertaking like this could bring, we took precautions. Tickets were purchased for a showing at a theater that allows patrons to reserve seats, and thus nobody on staff had to stand outside in a line full of horny moms and smarmy hatewatchers in the freezing cold. Rather than collaborate on a single review, we split responsibilities, each focusing on one crucial aspect of the film. This prevented any single one of us from becoming overwhelmed by the source material's unique blend of sexual cheesiness and nuclear stupidity. Third, we drank. Probably not as much as we should have, but we did our best. And here's what we experienced.

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The audience is about 98 percent female, and mostly in their early 20s. There are more Uggs than I'm used to seeing in New York, and, here and there, pairs of teeteringly high, seasonally inappropriate heels. Everyone looks a little abashed at first: this is a film best watched in sweats at home on the couch, but here we are, dragged in public like trenchcoated patrons at a porn palace. As the film begins, though, there's a silken ripple of excited giggling. The whole thing feels very much like a sleepover.

A raunchy sleepover, that is. These are New York women: each sex scene is met with gasps, applause, appreciative snorts. Every joke, no matter how limp, goes over big. When we see a half-second shot of Christian's pubes and the base of his dick, a woman behind me lets out a stifled half-gasp, half-moan, quarter-giggle. The same woman growls "yesssssss" at several relevant moments. She is not alone. This crowd is rowdy. This crowd means it.

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The part I really thought of watching John Oliver:

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So I guess we'll start there. What kind of RAGING IDIOT asks: "What are butt plugs?" Luckily for everyone in the theater, Hillary Crosley Coker shouted, "They're plugs for your butt, ******* !" Anastasia Steele (I will never be okay with that name) says some other stuff that made me laugh and then check the time on my phone, such as: "Am I a romantic? Well, I study English Lit"; she also, at one point, listens to Christian play the piano for .2 seconds and then squints at him, "That sounds so sad."

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posted February 28, 2015 06:19 AM            

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^^

I bet you'd love this...some women from Jezebel go to see the movie, one relates the experience:
http://jezebel.com/we-survived-an-opening-night-screening-of-fifty-shades-1685672861

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