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Topic: If the Universe is listening, why is it torturing me like this?
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MineAgain
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From: A Thousand Miles From Philadelphia
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posted March 25, 2015 05:55 PM
  
Today, for some odd reason, I found myself asking God to bring a specific individual back into my life. I was very specific and I mentionned his name and last name. Of course, as per usual, nothing happened regarding the situation with that person. Yet, I got a message pretty much out of the blue from someone who has the same first name as the person I was wishing to reconnect with. If God is listening to my prayers, then why is it sending me the wrong person with the same name? It's not what I asked for. It's better not to have any answer than to have some sort of substitute. It's like asking for a capuccino and you instead get an expresso. It's still called coffee but it's obviously not the same. Can anyone help me understand this? Thank you  IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted March 25, 2015 06:03 PM
Magic takes the path of least resistance.Now before you say what you do is different from magic keep in mind that you're trying to manifest your will. However, he has just as much power over the universe as you do so maybe he doesn't want to be in your life and thus the universe is deflected off of him so to speak and instead magnetically pulls someone else that it can effect (probably would've happened sooner or later anyway) that has the name because this person does want to be part of your life (or you two have something to offer each other, might be worth checking out out of curiosity if nothing else). In any case, he has free will just as you do and he shapes his universe consciously and subconsciously like you do and apparently you two are on different paths now. You've asked for him, but he asked for something new and the universe is listening to him as much as you. Lots of religions and mystical paths have a lot more to say on "unanswered prayers," btw, if you're interested. IP: Logged |
MineAgain
Knowflake Posts: 1239
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posted March 25, 2015 06:07 PM
When I said Universe, I mean God. I didn't do any ritual, so I differ. It's not magic. Thank you for your help however. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 6199
From: CA
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posted March 25, 2015 06:08 PM
It still applies. God listens to him as much as you.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted March 25, 2015 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Magic takes the path of least resistance.Now before you say what you do is different from magic keep in mind that you're trying to manifest your will. However, he has just as much power over the universe as you do so maybe he doesn't want to be in your life and thus the universe is deflected off of him so to speak and instead magnetically pulls someone else that it can effect (probably would've happened sooner or later anyway) that has the name because this person does want to be part of your life (or you two have something to offer each other, might be worth checking out out of curiosity if nothing else). In any case, he has free will just as you do and he shapes his universe consciously and subconsciously like you do and apparently you two are on different paths now. You've asked for him, but he asked for something new and the universe is listening to him as much as you. Lots of religions and mystical paths have a lot more to say on "unanswered prayers," btw, if you're interested.
wow great explanation of the phenomenon, PixieJane! MineAgain, I am sorry  But I think what happened is something to celebrate, in a way, since it shows your thoughts have a more than average power of manifestation.
Every wish however happens when it's the best course of action for both people involved, every fulfilled wish is in fact a collective wish. ------------------
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ikja
Knowflake Posts: 1191
From: London, UK
Registered: Oct 2014
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posted March 25, 2015 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Magic takes the path of least resistance.Now before you say what you do is different from magic keep in mind that you're trying to manifest your will. However, he has just as much power over the universe as you do so maybe he doesn't want to be in your life and thus the universe is deflected off of him so to speak and instead magnetically pulls someone else that it can effect (probably would've happened sooner or later anyway) that has the name because this person does want to be part of your life (or you two have something to offer each other, might be worth checking out out of curiosity if nothing else). In any case, he has free will just as you do and he shapes his universe consciously and subconsciously like you do and apparently you two are on different paths now. You've asked for him, but he asked for something new and the universe is listening to him as much as you. Lots of religions and mystical paths have a lot more to say on "unanswered prayers," btw, if you're interested.
Now... That really is something to think about. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted March 25, 2015 11:11 PM
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Soltze
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posted March 26, 2015 07:15 AM
God gives you what you need, not what you want.
I had many failed requests.
It's for your own good. Yes, you obviously aren't pleased that the person isn't back in your life. We want what we want after all.
But don't feel upset with God. ;-)------------------
Do thy will
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LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted March 26, 2015 10:19 AM
BTW, you shouldn't give up your wish. If it hasn't happened yet, it doesn't mean it won't ------------------
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Randall
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posted March 27, 2015 11:04 PM
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MarsSaturnDelight
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posted March 28, 2015 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by MineAgain:
Today, for some odd reason, I found myself asking God to bring a specific individual back into my life. I was very specific and I mentionned his name and last name. Of course, as per usual, nothing happened regarding the situation with that person. Yet, I got a message pretty much out of the blue from someone who has the same first name as the person I was wishing to reconnect with. If God is listening to my prayers, then why is it sending me the wrong person with the same name? It's not what I asked for. It's better not to have any answer than to have some sort of substitute. It's like asking for a capuccino and you instead get an expresso. It's still called coffee but it's obviously not the same. [b]Can anyone help me understand this? Thank you [/B]
It's because you're asking 'God' - he's useless. IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight
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posted March 28, 2015 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Magic takes the path of least resistance.Now before you say what you do is different from magic keep in mind that you're trying to manifest your will. However, he has just as much power over the universe as you do so maybe he doesn't want to be in your life and thus the universe is deflected off of him so to speak and instead magnetically pulls someone else that it can effect (probably would've happened sooner or later anyway) that has the name because this person does want to be part of your life (or you two have something to offer each other, might be worth checking out out of curiosity if nothing else). In any case, he has free will just as you do and he shapes his universe consciously and subconsciously like you do and apparently you two are on different paths now. You've asked for him, but he asked for something new and the universe is listening to him as much as you.
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PixieJane
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From: CA
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posted March 28, 2015 09:29 PM
I just remembered this...  He had such a gift for describing things, but then he wasn't the only one back in the day (such as Twain and Mencken), who had a wry sense of humor about the world (I bet there were a lot more that history doesn't remember and I enjoyed reading a book by a madame from the late 18th century who got to know a lot of people that wrote a book about it in I think the first decade in the 20th century that no one would publish until well into the second half of the 20th that really brought the seediness of the so called good old days alive), and a lot of what they pointed out is still relevant today. IP: Logged |
BellaFenice
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From: Neptune with PisceanDream, Faith, and Meissieri
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted March 29, 2015 01:52 AM
I cannot speak on the God part because I am not Christian, but what I can say is that things happen for a reason. Obviously this person holds some sort of importance in your heart, but perhaps the lesson with this person has already been learned. People come in and out of our lives to serve a purpose, and we are challenged to learn and grow in some way. Prayers, at least the way I was taught, were meant for giving blessing and hope, and not necessarily making something happen. The key here is to examine why you want this person back in your life- what is it they provide that you are missing? Is it really them you need or an emotional void that needs to be filled? And of course, if you really want to talk to this person you can try contacting them. Unless for some reason the two of you cannot. IP: Logged |
ikja
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From: London, UK
Registered: Oct 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 07:28 AM
I know everyone is entitled to freedom of speech, but I do get really uncomfortable when people say God does not exist - ESPECIALLY when they are talking to someone who does believe in God.
It's not compulsory that everyone believes in God, but please be mindful that SOME people do.
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MineAgain
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From: A Thousand Miles From Philadelphia
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 29, 2015 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by ikja:
I know everyone is entitled to freedom of speech, but I do get really uncomfortable when people say God does not exist - ESPECIALLY when they are talking to someone who does believe in God.
It's not compulsory that everyone believes in God, but please be mindful that SOME people do.
Thank you Ikja.
Discarding someone's belief in such a sharp manner isn't exactly constructive (the term "useless" used by someone wasn't necessary). I think there are certain topics that shouldn't be discussed on this website because the details are taken out of context. Believing in God isn't magic in any way shape or form and it's subjective which therefore leads to biased advice. Thank all for your kind help 
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PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 6199
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 29, 2015 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by MineAgain:
Believing in God isn't magic in any way shape or form
There's a range of understanding of what magic and God is, even people of the same religion or tradition are going to disagree on many particulars, so there's not a single person (not even you) who doesn't have some bias in regards to such metaphysical concepts. As for how you're talking about asking God and "laws of the universe" that sounds like what I--not you--would call magic. A lot will see magic as you do and many will see magic as I do and many others in completely different ways from you and I which makes discussion about such concepts (God, magic, what have you) problematic, especially when you're asking people from widely different backgrounds with different paradigms. I don't know your exact terminologies and definitions so it's difficult for me to choose the right words. I'm sure if I considered my words very carefully that I'd do a better job so that you didn't trip over the word that I don't mean in the same way that you take it. That aside there was a thread that explored this: What is the difference between a "manifestation" spell and a prayer? If you'd rather keep it to "God" then you need to explain what you mean because it's not standard, though I'm sure plenty of people have read the same books and/or watched the same vids as you have, but most people are going to understand those terms and concepts differently from you. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted March 29, 2015 10:37 AM
Btw, maybe I'm misunderstanding more than I think. I THOUGHT you wanted understanding which is my fault of seeing your search for understanding from my own perspective which is more interested in understanding the mysteries of the universe which fascinate me for its own sake (though if it can be put to use on the side then so much the better--but with some ethical considerations!). But maybe you were more interested in instructions on how to wield power/God ruthlessly over others and not feel guilty about it, and now I'm wondering if you meant "tell me what I'm doing wrong so I can make God do my bidding" without caring about understanding, only in power. If that's the case I hope you never figure it out. If people can rob others of their free will to bend them to their own whims...well that opens a whole new can of worms in regards to ethics, and hopefully any such God wouldn't let you do that either. Though I know some people think God is their personal genie and bodyguard (like those who say "God is bigger than any mugger/rapist"). One biography of a woman who made a name of herself mentioned that as a kid she was angry at God over a car wreck she got into despite the fact she ran a stop sign...apparently she thought God would clear the highway for her convenience. Go figure. At least as she got older she realized that's not how God works. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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From: Pluto with DeepFreeze
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted March 29, 2015 10:45 AM
You have to understand that just because He didn't do as you asked of Him right then and there doesn't mean He doesn't care. God always listens. He is always there. He loves all of us even the nonbelievers. Just because he didn't do it as you asked doesn't mean that it may not happen. The timing may not have been right or instead of sending the person you asked for He sent someone better. Our Lord is a very just. He knows us better than we know ourselves. He gives us what we need which may not always be what we want. Keep faith in Him and everything will work out the way it's intended. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted March 29, 2015 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by MineAgain:
Thank you Ikja. Discarding someone's belief in such a sharp manner isn't exactly constructive (the term "useless" used by someone wasn't necessary). I think there are certain topics that shouldn't be discussed on this website because the details are taken out of context. Believing in God isn't magic in any way shape or form and it's subjective which therefore leads to biased advice. Thank all for your kind help
What is a "biased advice"? Isn't God - for example the Christian God - "someone" who gives you what you need rather than what you want, for the benefit of all? It's the same as understanding how the universe works, on a spiritual level. The power of the prayer is the same as the power of wishmaking. Isn't this what people do when they pray, making a wish? ------------------
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Barbiegirl19
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posted March 29, 2015 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by ikja:
I know everyone is entitled to freedom of speech, but I do get really uncomfortable when people say God does not exist - ESPECIALLY when they are talking to someone who does believe in God.
It's not compulsory that everyone believes in God, but please be mindful that SOME people do.
Many people do. It all boils down to respect.
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Swanlake
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posted April 03, 2015 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by MineAgain:
Today, for some odd reason, I found myself asking God to bring a specific individual back into my life. I was very specific and I mentionned his name and last name. Of course, as per usual, nothing happened regarding the situation with that person. Yet, I got a message pretty much out of the blue from someone who has the same first name as the person I was wishing to reconnect with. If God is listening to my prayers, then why is it sending me the wrong person with the same name? It's not what I asked for. It's better not to have any answer than to have some sort of substitute. It's like asking for a capuccino and you instead get an expresso. It's still called coffee but it's obviously not the same. [b]Can anyone help me understand this? Thank you [/B]
"Today for some odd reason.."
Clearly it was a frivolous un-thought out, spur of the moment request. God (or the Universe) is not an ordering machine.
However you got the response you deserved - a joke "reply". IP: Logged |
MineAgain
Knowflake Posts: 1239
From: A Thousand Miles From Philadelphia
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 04, 2015 12:06 AM
You upped this old thread just to add this sort of response?I think I'm far more aware of what a "joke" wish than you are, clearly because you have no clue how long I had been pinning over this individual. A lot of people on LL can attest of how I felt about this person, for two years. Your response is off base. Thanks anyway.
Please, do not up this thread again, I am done with this chapter.
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