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Ami Anne
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posted March 27, 2015 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know how to describe this. I will tell you the situation.

My mother is a really bad bully, My father is a wimp type.

He called me and told me that the people at their retirement facility were giving him dirty looks at dinner because they thought he was a "bad husband"

My mother trashes him to people and then they don't like him.

I got REALLY angry at her and really let her know.

Then, he kind of sided with her and they made me like I was the crazy one.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 27, 2015 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God gave me a very good chart. It is one of the better charts I have seen.

It is very logical. I have Alice conj my mercury exact. Alice was sane in a crazy world.

My blessings go on and on BUT I feel I am always being made crazy by my reality being altered.

This above is an example.

Can anyone relate?

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Valentine
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posted March 28, 2015 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I can't relate. All I can say is your dad, despite his complaining to you, accepts his submissive role with your domineering mother. No need to worry about them.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 28, 2015 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valentine:
No, I can't relate. All I can say is your dad, despite his complaining to you, accepts his submissive role with your domineering mother. No need to worry about them.

Yes, thanks V!

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DeepFreeze
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posted March 28, 2015 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valentine:
No, I can't relate. All I can say is your dad, despite his complaining to you, accepts his submissive role with your domineering mother. No need to worry about them.

Read my mind.

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ReadingTheStars95
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posted March 28, 2015 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agh.. I hate being sided against with my family.. Especially when there are times when I feel like one of them siding against me is doing it to please the other..

He probably stood up for your mother because he was afraid not to, not because he accepts your mom's behavior. Doesn't sound like he is in a very happy position in life right now.

At least, that is how I see it.

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Odette
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posted March 28, 2015 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People protect their abusers. It reminds me of Stockholm syndrome. It's sad, but it does happen. Victims of home violence are often protective of their abusive spouses and it's very difficult to get them to testify in court.
I know your mum is very psychologically abusive, not physically - but that is enough to harm a person who is more psychologically sensitive like your dad.

I completely understand your frustration (because I've been there!) and I'm sorry you're constantly put in this situation The problem is - you just can't help someone who won't help themselves no matter how much you care for them. And you have your own life to focus on!

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Ami Anne
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posted March 28, 2015 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are so wise, Odette.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 29, 2015 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found my answer. Odette helped me to get it straight in my mind.

If ANYONE wants to take away your reality, you need to walk away.

You can take lots of things in relationships because no one is perfect and people hurt people, as a matter of human nature.

However, if someone is so sick that they want/have to distort your reality in order for you to be in a relationship with them, you have to leave.

Your sanity is worth it

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posted March 29, 2015 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people are just used to bad relationship dinamycs. It looks really crazy from the outside but they don't want it any other way.
I know someone who is constantly complaining of psychological abuse and cheating and won't quit the guy. My parents complain about each other to me, and fight a lot but divorced each other and married again a few years ago so...do like me cover your ears and ignore. I guess

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Swanlake
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posted March 30, 2015 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swanlake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't know how to describe this. I will tell you the situation.

My mother is a really bad bully, My father is a wimp type.

He called me and told me that the people at their retirement facility were giving him dirty looks at dinner because they thought he was a "bad husband"

My mother trashes him to people and then they don't like him.

I got REALLY angry at her and really let her know.

Then, he kind of sided with her and they made me like I was the crazy one.



Ami Anne, my Dear,
I wonder why you STILL haven't let go of your Mother????
Why you STILL have UNREALISTIC expectations of her???

If she had been in an accident which left her brain damaged, would you STILL feel disappointed , becoming upset if she acted in a way that didn't seem reasonable, fair or rational?
- NO! (I'm sure it wouldn't affect you in the same way)

WELL, just because you can't see any (tangible) physical reason for her disappointing/upsetting behavior,
YOU MUST LEARN TO SEE HER AS IF SHE WERE DAMAGED.
(Because, in fact she IS. Damaged in her psyche, from her past. It's invisible)

CAN'T you BELIEVE this?

Look. FACT:
NO MOTHER in her RIGHT mind would CONSCIOUSLY choose to be hurtful to her child(as you experienced her)

Your mother has always in your lifetime been "locked up" & lost, a prisoner of her subconscious mind.She is not aware of her behavior. Never has been.
Your Dad learned to cope with her somehow.
But he has different role in her life.

When you finally let go, you will be free.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2015 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I KNOW, Swan. I am trying and have been since my teens, but not doing too well, it seems lol

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