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Ami Anne
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posted April 28, 2015 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vietnam veteran stands up to Baltimore rioters, becomes hero of the night

Read more: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/04/28/vietnam-veteran-stands-up-to-baltimore-rioters-becomes-hero-of-the-night-199385#ixzz3YbrQYDN8

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posted April 28, 2015 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/28/so_exactly_what_kind_of_violence_dont_you_like_actor_jesse_williams_baltimore_rant/


http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/28/1380877/-Powerful-video-interview-of-Crips-Bloods-disputing-the-claims-of-the-Baltimore-Police?

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posted April 28, 2015 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This story shows you have to STAND UP to evil. We all know what evil is. Our heart tells us. I don't like to stand up anymore than anyone else does but who will stand up if everyone waits for the next guy.


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posted April 28, 2015 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Violence is counterproductive. BUT Anger and frustration are not necessarily evil. The systematic beating down of this neighborhood, the death that was the straw on the camel's back, the shuttng down of water to poor People in the city. .who Iys standing up to that
http://w ww.salon.com/2015/04/28/the_medias_stunning_baltimore_betrayal_demonizing_protesters_giving_police_brutality_a_pass/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

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posted April 29, 2015 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More beauty from the ashes of evil( looting, destroying and hurting people and things IS evil, for ANYONE who is saying otherwise. There is NO EXCUSE)
http://www.theblaze.com/st ories/2015/04/29/local-tv-reporter-stumbles-upon-powerful-scene-in-the-midst-of-the-chaos-violence-and-ashes-in-baltimore/

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posted April 29, 2015 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Violence is counterproductive. BUT Anger and frustration are not necessarily evil. The systematic beating down of this neighborhood, the death that was the straw on the camel's back, the shuttng down of water to poor People in the city. .who Iys standing up to that
http://w ww.salon.com/2015/04/28/the_medias_stunning_baltimore_betrayal_demonizing_protesters_giving_police_brutality_a_pass/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

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posted April 29, 2015 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread is about the heroes in this tragic situation. Let's keep it to that, please. Thank you!

Did you see the clip of the amazing mom? She has been all over the news!

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posted April 29, 2015 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To me, if anyone can stand up against the group when the group is doing wrong, they are a pure hero and they have my utmost respect and admiration!

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posted April 29, 2015 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard."

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posted April 29, 2015 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some more things from heroes that I will put up later.

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posted April 29, 2015 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Hero Mom

Mom who dragged son from riots speaks out!
Read more: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/04/29/mom-who-dragged-son-from-riots-speaks-out-he-will-not-be-a-freddie-gray-199758#ixzz3YjROZIQQ

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posted April 29, 2015 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For Graham, a single mother of six, taking action seems to be her nature.

In August 2014 gunshots were fired outside of her home striking a man.

She ran to check on her children and then went outside to try to help the victim who died before he could be taken to the hospital, according to ABC News.

“Soon we’re not even going to be able to walk out of our doors,” she said prophetically at the time.

“That was somebody’s child, and it’s real overwhelming that somebody takes somebody’s life like that and he was just left there,” she added.

“Soon” came less than a year later with riots breaking out across the city.

But she did walk out her door — and dragged her son back in.

And became a symbol for what parenting(* and responsible citizenship* )is all about.


* my edit

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posted April 30, 2015 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes she took care of her son. She didn't want him to be the next Freddie Gray. It was not about his behaviour but the possible results. .but I guess some People are too afraid of their kids to do the same. Heroic? Just being a mom. Sometimes the same thing

I know another mom who tried to stop the local cops from beating her son to death in her front yard. She was caught in the fray with a "baton" to the head and has been in a wheelchair for twelve years since. Therecwas no riot going on. .was she a hero?

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posted May 30, 2015 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you see that the evils of the police state in America and how it is more of a state-backed up gang rather than a force wanting to protect its citizens is more harmful than people retaliating for what they feel their rights stripped and disrespected from them..

Do you think all rioting and anarchy is bad even if the state of the oppressors, or rather the authority, is hurting on their rights of people?

I heard a good argument as to why the American Revolution was evil.

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posted May 30, 2015 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I hope you see that the evils of the police state in America and how it is more of a state-backed up gang rather than a force wanting to protect its citizens is more harmful than people retaliating for what they feel their rights stripped and disrespected from them..

Do you think all rioting and anarchy is bad even if the state of the oppressors, or rather the authority, is hurting on their rights of people?

I heard a good argument as to why the American Revolution was evil.


Things are bad on a LOT of levels, Karka. However, many people see the superficial "bad", instead of the deeper bad, which makes it all the more insidious.

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posted May 30, 2015 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In this society, if you were gonna get to the evil, you would have to go to the very bottom and radiate out. At the very bottom, it is a spiritual problem, too.

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posted May 30, 2015 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In this society, if you were gonna get to the evil, you would have to go to the very bottom and radiate out. At the very bottom, it is a spiritual problem, too.



In your opinion what is the deeper bad ?

What is also the spiritual problem of the situation ?

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posted May 30, 2015 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The deeper bad is the spirit of evil.

In this particular case, there are evil forces wanting to change America from freedom to non-freedom, shall we say.

In the case of Baltimore, the ruse is that cops mistreat people of color( which I am not saying never happens) but the GOAL is a national police force a la Hitler

The surface issues are ruses, even if they are believable. If they were not, they could not be ruses lol

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