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Enneline
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posted August 28, 2015 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you please take a look at this thread http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum18/HTML/002087-2.html , close it and kick ImpassionedParis?

Sorry for my tough words. I am sure you understand.

She did want to force LeeLoo doing readings for her for free (and LeeLoo repeteadly did this in the past, gave her LENGTHY readings, readings others had to pay + LeeLoo spent HOURS to explain IP the basics of Tarot and now look at this)

She is disrciminating her. LeeLoo is Romanian and being discriminated by her.

I am German, though not of German descent, and don't like hearing other people call us unattractive.

Maybe someone is really brought to tears now, Randall. I am serious.

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Soltze
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posted August 28, 2015 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geez...I went to see and it's really nasty insulting.
Yeah, that needs a strong action

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Ceridwen
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posted August 28, 2015 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also mailed Randall about this.

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Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2015 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I know who the person is. The person comes on to harass people.

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teasel
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posted August 28, 2015 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might have to use the contact form in the main page.

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Ceridwen
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posted August 28, 2015 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

yes, I have gotten the impression as well that this is a new incarnation of someone we have already known here. Though I do not know who.

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Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2015 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Ami,

yes, I have gotten the impression as well that this is a new incarnation of someone we have already known here. Though I do not know who.



Ceri,I know who, I am quite sure. You have to ignore cuz the person is just messing with people


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posted August 28, 2015 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Ceri,I know who, I am quite sure. You have to ignore cuz the person is just messing with people

That person is being abusive. Why ignore?

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Faith
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posted August 28, 2015 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you being strategic and crafty, Ami?

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Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2015 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have to wait until a Mod closes it. Right? Until then, ignore lol

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posted August 28, 2015 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have to wait until a Mod closes it. Right? Until then, ignore lol



If that's what you meant, you should have said it.

Instead, what you said is tantamount to, "Just turn a blind eye to this."

Which serves no purpose except to annoy the people who have a problem that honestly needs to be dealt with. But you must have known that, or you wouldn't have said it.

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posted August 28, 2015 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It is obvious people are trying to get Randall, so he can close it. Until that time, people should ignore. Thanks

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posted August 28, 2015 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bait and switch, for the millionth time.

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Randall
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posted August 28, 2015 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the delay. Was at the law library reading for today's class.

Ignoring is a particularly astute strategy in a case such as this, because it would be rather easy to become embroiled in the contention and risk banning.

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Enneline
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posted August 28, 2015 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Randall

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Faith
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posted August 28, 2015 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So if someone is tossing around insults left and right, everyone should abandon ship quickly, or risk banning?

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posted August 28, 2015 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think there's a big difference between:
* a troll who uses provocative language with the sole purpose of causing drama and conflict
* a bigot who genuinely believes the insulting non-sense they're saying

Trolls should be ignored, but bigots should be showed resistance I believe. Though I agree they're usually not worth the effort.

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Randall
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posted August 28, 2015 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They should not insult back, join the fray, or contribute to the insults. If one can address the person without hurling back insults, by all means do so. Some people might choose to take the higher road and refrain altogether. Others might engage the party and try to rationalize with him/her. There is certainly nothing wrong with either strategy. If the behavior is egregious, it warrants no warning, as was the case with ImpassionedParis.

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Randall
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posted August 28, 2015 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami did not mean to turn a blind eye. It's a simple case of "Don't feed the troll."

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Randall
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posted August 28, 2015 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry that thread went on for so long. We have very active Mods there, but they were just absent at the time.

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Faith
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posted August 28, 2015 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the advice is "Ignore, but report the abuse," that should be clearly stated in full.

To just say "ignore" by itself has another meaning, which is: "Do nothing, just take the abuse."

Not sure why that isn't totally obvious.

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Faith
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posted August 28, 2015 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe I am seeing through the eyes of experience and memory...

All those times when IGNORE did not mean anything except to let the problems continue without mediation.

Which has been a source of much contention over the years.

IGNORE is a loaded term at this forum, because of that.

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Randall
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posted August 28, 2015 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That particular conclusion may have been totally obvious to you, but it wasn't to me. I knew exactly what she meant in this instance. And she clarified what she meant, so the intent should now be obvious to all.

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Randall
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posted August 28, 2015 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ignore is a way not to feed negative energy (or to let someone get under your skin by baiting you), but by all means, abusive behavior should be reported in every instance.

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posted August 28, 2015 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Sorry that thread went on for so long. We have very active Mods there, but they were just absent at the time.

This also happens in PR occasionally, and just my opinion, we need another mod in there. Empress is really the only one who is active, so that way if another debacle like today's happens in PR, we at least have mods to handle it, which unfortunately has never been the case in the past.

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