posted September 18, 2015 02:53 PM            

This thread is not meant to bash LGBT community but it is rather very confusing time ahead for a hetrosexual person like myself. I mean, you think you are dating a girl but it turns out that she is he? Then when these kids grow up and they think girls are boys and boys are girls so the gender become irrelevant but for me it isn't! If I have to stay in a hospital or visit the restroom....I'd rather be in the company of femals BUT they are also lesbians who may fancy you! I don't know... Gay people may have had confusing time themselves before coming out of their closet but now I am having a confusing time!!! lol

I draw a line that anyone can think and behave themselves as they wish..... be an animal, female, male, monster whatever.... but to me female and male gender never changes due to our DNA which we were born with.

posted September 18, 2015 04:26 PM            

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posted September 18, 2015 05:33 PM            

I've watched the first 2 minutes (and a little longer, plus skipped around and don't think you posted the right vid) and it was the kind of drivel I lost patience for years ago that I couldn't stand it any longer. I'm hoping that you just posted the wrong vid completely.

posted September 18, 2015 06:32 PM            

I'm very feminine and I'm bissexual. I hate that stereotype. You'll never fully know who's LGBT or not around you...and why worry?

Why should you be upset if someone is fancying you? If the person is polite and respectful you won't get harassed, whether it's male or female.

I respect trangender people since they made a difficult choice to go to surgery. The cromossomes might be the same but I deeply respect the way they are and treat them according to their new pronoun for identification.

posted September 18, 2015 07:20 PM            

For a man to look like a woman, it usually takes A LOT of work (and some never pull it off no matter how much they try) and the chances of your running into that are extremely low unless you're in an area where that's known (in which case most people learn to pick up on subtle clues, and it's still not that common). Most of them don't go out to pick up guys, though I suppose they might flirt. Of course they may not be into guys at all.

Restrooms don't bother me either...at least as long as I'm not the one who has to clean it. I've grown up sharing bathrooms with guys, and plenty of porta potties and the like get used by both as well. As for sexual predators, assuming that's a concern...they're already a danger.

And I have no idea why a lesbian being attracted to you would bother you, how is that different from a guy being attracted to you that you wouldn't be into?

posted September 19, 2015 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Could you give the time that it goes into your specific concern?

I've watched the first 2 minutes (and a little longer, plus skipped around and don't think you posted the right vid) and it was the kind of drivel I lost patience for years ago that I couldn't stand it any longer. I'm hoping that you just posted the wrong vid completely.

(Have an errand to run, will be back in an hour or so.)

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posted September 19, 2015 05:32 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
As for the actual subject in general (since I'm sure that's the wrong vid)...

For a man to look like a woman, it usually takes A LOT of work (and some never pull it off no matter how much they try) and the chances of your running into that are extremely low unless you're in an area where that's known (in which case most people learn to pick up on subtle clues, and it's still not that common). Most of them don't go out to pick up guys, though I suppose they might flirt. Of course they may not be into guys at all.

Restrooms don't bother me either...at least as long as I'm not the one who has to clean it. I've grown up sharing bathrooms with guys, and plenty of porta potties and the like get used by both as well. As for sexual predators, assuming that's a concern...they're already a danger.

And I have no idea why a lesbian being attracted to you would bother you, how is that different from a guy being attracted to you that you wouldn't be into?

Though more than once I've heard guys yell angrily about some gay man blatantly eyeballing them or making an aggressive pass and they're typically gobsmacked when I say "welcome to girl world" (and if they look confused I tell them I put up with unwanted male sexual harassment a lot more than them) and hope it might help them mind their own manners, if they don't already.

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As for the restroom, you see....you must be younger than me. I did not grow up using unisex restroom whereas young generation of now do so it doesn't bother them. They don't know any other. It's like your generation is all digital and never known a vinyl records or paperback books. We didn't carry cellphones when we were in school because there wasn't one. lol

posted September 19, 2015 06:03 PM            

The gist of the above video is an analysis of female body shape and it is clear that Serena Williams' body falls under the category of male body type. They are not talking about how muscly she is.... it's about the waist dip above/below the belly button. Browse through images of women in bikini. Regardless of their weight, the waist dip is always above the belly button. Look through other female tennis players and who has got such mucho muscles?? There is something not female about Serena yet she is allowed to compete in women's game. So How will likes of Olympics fair? Is it fair for those that were born as female?

posted September 20, 2015 12:42 AM            

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so please watch and see what thoughts come to you. Many thanks.

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That boy spent more time on makeup than I did when I went through a makeup phase.

I'm not even sure a 13-year-old counts, that could just be a kid being a kid, though he obviously knows what he's doing. I do recall boys that age would sometimes come to school on Halloween dressed as a woman (and really good at it), though any other day would get them beat up.

The real irony there is that most GIRLS his age wouldn't be allowed that much makeup, and they certainly wouldn't be allowed to dress that way (*). As for him I doubt he'd be allowed in school even on Halloween dressed like a woman working a street corner, and it's the last part that's making me go WTF over it.

(* I'm aware there is this hysteria of the sexualization of kids but even in California that's mostly just hyped by the media because it glues people to the TV and such which in turn sells ad space for premium. Having worked with kids a lot in the 2000s I know that's not the majority of them, even some of the younger girls in Southern California were more Puritan in their morals than girls the same age I knew in the East Texas Bible Belt and to the point that some hardcore tween fans of Hilary Duff in San Diego swore off her forever because she appeared in a music video on a bed while clad in a bikini. And that was mild to the hijinks that would come out over Miley Cyrus later.

posted September 20, 2015 01:01 AM            

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I guess it depends where you live in terms of the LGBT people satulation rate. I happened to live in a city where you will see young girls kissing on the street and where guy/gay couples are holding hand in hand so it's much more prominent.

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I do as well, but that's different. Most gay men are masculine. Most lesbians are feminine. And not all men and women who strongly defy gender norms are gay or bi, they can be straight, including men who crossdress.

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I guess my experience with lesbian is that they were pushy. I was clearly not interested being a hetro. It was more to do with how could a female do this?? kind of thing. At least, with guys, if you show them no interest, they leave you alone and move on to the next person standing. lol

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My experience is the exact opposite. I dare say that you know more lesbians than you're aware of but only took note of the pushy ones.

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As for the restroom, you see....you must be younger than me. I did not grow up using unisex restroom whereas young generation of now do so it doesn't bother them

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I grew up in a household with males and had to share a bathroom with my dad, my male cousin, and plenty of others. I made the crack about "as long as I don't have to clean it" because I was thinking how much body hair Dad left in the tub that was ridiculous (granted, other less mentionable things occurred to me). I visited plenty of friends and they shared bathrooms with males as well.

But I think I know the difference here. You're imagining using a restroom with men all around you as you do. Not going to happen, at least not without a lot of privacy, and most unisex restrooms make you wait your turn because it's one at a time, and even when it happens the very rare male who identifies as female just happens to share the restroom with you at the same time (I wonder what the odds are on that happening?) isn't going to be hurt, neither are you, by your both peeing at the same time. If this is what you're scared of, or men ogling you as you pee, then I think you're making a tempest in a teapot.

posted September 20, 2015 01:15 AM            

The tall women.

posted September 20, 2015 05:58 PM              

Bathrooms? Not a big deal. Men and women share the same bathrooms.. No one cares.. Except maybe the girls who have to sit on the seats but there are times where they've been messier than the men.

She? He? Who? Guys call each other girls, refer to each other as she whenever they're in a mood, transsexuals take digs at each other by calling each other sir, man, etc and it's all in good fun within the community...

I'm not sure why heterosexuals are always worried that they might be found attractive.. Out of the population, the chance of someone gay lesbian or trana targeting specifically you with their attraction, is make believe.. There are enough people in the world for them to fancy so no need to think you're in the center of it.

posted April 22, 2016 05:44 PM            

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When Alec Butler was born in 1959 it was assumed Alec was female. But after being brought up as a girl, Alec - now an award-winning writer and film-maker - realised they were intersex, someone whose anatomical, hormonal or genetic sex is neither completely male nor female.

I was about 12 when it really hit. I started to grow a beard and I had a period. So it was really confusing for me. My parents were a little freaked out. They took me to some doctors, but no-one knew about being intersex in the small town where I grew up in Canada. One doctor said, "We're going to have to put her in a mental institution until she learns how to dress like a girl and put on makeup." This was at the age of 12, when even most genetic girls aren't being forced to do that. Luckily my parents were outraged and they said, "We're not going to do that. We're just going to love you, and you can choose how you want to be." That was a gift. Lots of intersex kids don't have that.

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ETA: adding this:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/olympics/the-humiliating-practice-o f-sex-testing-female-athletes/ar-AAhIEyQ

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No governing body has so tenaciously tried to determine who counts as a woman for the purpose of sports as the I.A.A.F. and the International Olympic Committee (I.O.C.). Those two influential organizations have spent a half-century vigorously policing gender boundaries. Their rationale for decades was to catch male athletes masquerading as women, though they never once discovered an impostor. Instead, the athletes snagged in those efforts have been intersex women — scores of them.

The treatment of female athletes, and intersex women in particular, has a long and sordid his­tory. For centuries, sport was the exclusive province of males, the competitive arena where masculinity was cultivated and proven. Sport endowed men with the physical and psychological strength that “manhood” required. As women in the late 19th century encroached on explicitly male domains — sport, education, paid labor — many in society became increasingly anxious; if a woman’s place wasn’t immutable, maybe a man’s role, and the power it entailed, were not secure either.

Well into the 20th century, women were discouraged from participating in sports. Some medical experts claimed that vigorous exercise would damage women’s reproductive capacity and their fragile emotional state and would make them muscular, “mannish” and unattractive to men. Critics fretted that athletics would unbind women from femininity’s modesty and self-restraint.

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Btw, in regards to the lies about athletics making women barren, I read an interview in which a woman shared how she and many high school girls heard that lie as an explanation why they weren't allowed to join the track team (1970s), and their response was to sneak onto the field and run on their own time as permanent birth control!

And btw, note that in the article it's called "sex testing." Sex as a noun. This is one of those things about "S-E-X in subliminal messages." Assuming my subconscious saw it as a child in say Disney movies (can't forget Pepsi, which my parental units thought hilarious to get me to find while the local news was making a big deal about these Pepsi cans, probably the only time either of them ever paid for Pepsi!), then why would my mind have to interpret it as a verb rather than a noun? (I know this is a bit random.)

ETA: another
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38730291

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But she said the procedures caused her distress and she wanted to speak out in part to discourage other parents from putting their children through perhaps unnecessary surgery

"It's not that big of a deal being intersex," she said.

"If they were just honest from the beginning... It became a trauma because of what they did."

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