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Topic: War strategy
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astra7
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posted September 24, 2015 06:40 AM
  
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charlie
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posted September 24, 2015 07:25 AM
Do what Caps and Scorpios do brilliantly: freeze out. Seize all forms of communication. Do not look back. IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted September 24, 2015 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by charlie:
Do what Caps and Scorpios do brilliantly: freeze out. Seize all forms of communication. Do not look back.
Thanks.
I am Cap. He could be Scorp or Cap rising...IDK tob. 
Unfortunately, I cannot freeze out as you suggest because this person owns an apartment next to me and he keeps throwing problems so that he will be in control and have authority over me. I am fighting for it because he uses black magick to make me sick and control. I am exhausted and God is AWOL. IP: Logged |
athenian200
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posted September 24, 2015 07:58 AM
Ideally, you want to cut all ties with him. If you're married, divorce. If he's your boss, quit. If you owe him money, pay him off (take out a loan or sell something if you have to). Whatever situation it is keeping you involved with him or interacting with him, end it.No matter how unpleasant it is, or what you have to sacrifice... even if you have to end other friendships with people who are still friends with him, do it. If someone isn't on your side, they're on his. If he's still stalking you after you've cut all ties (including mutual friends), then the best course of action is to get the authorities involved and get a restraining order against him. The reason for attempting to cut ties first, is that they often don't take the situation seriously unless it's clear that you've made a good-faith effort to push him out of your life and he has resisted. The justice system is best equipped to help people fight these battles, and that's one of the reasons it exists... so don't be afraid to use it. If for some reason you can't involve the courts, then you really only have a few options. You either stay on the move and hide, or else find someone with a few resources who you know is on your side, and stay with them so they can protect you until he gives up. Essentially, this could be compared to military strategy. My first stage was diplomacy and invoking the law, which is always ideal. The second idea of staying on the move and hiding while keeping a low profile is more like the way a spy or would deal with something. The final idea of staying with someone who has resources to help you endure the attacks is like soldiers barricading themselves in a fortress. The only idea I haven't covered, for fairly obvious reasons, is that of a direct assault. That would be very dangerous and likely illegal depending on the style you use. IP: Logged |
florence
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posted September 24, 2015 08:14 AM
The only strategy ive heard of, which actually might be more useful in the situation where your aggressor is your neighbour and can be persistent, is in the scenario of being captured and tortured. In that case, give up any notion of your life returning to its previous state because there hope and fear can be exploited. IP: Logged |
Soltze
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posted September 24, 2015 08:52 AM
If he uses magic indeed you need prayer and protection rituals...and no talking. Carry a consecrated pendant around your neck...any symbol you love.
If he's your neighbour tell him you only discuss issues in meetings for the building residents.I mean those happen where I live. If you don't like someone you can gladly ignore them... IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted September 24, 2015 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by athenian200:
Ideally, you want to cut all ties with him. If you're married, divorce. If he's your boss, quit. If you owe him money, pay him off (take out a loan or sell something if you have to). Whatever situation it is keeping you involved with him or interacting with him, end it.
He is just a neighbor. Not married to him or ever had a relationship or friendship. Don't own him money, he's not my boss or landlord either. quote:
No matter how unpleasant it is, or what you have to sacrifice... even if you have to end other friendships with people who are still friends with him, do it. If someone isn't on your side, they're on his.
Luckily, there is no mutual friends. quote:
If he's still stalking you after you've cut all ties (including mutual friends), then the best course of action is to get the authorities involved and get a restraining order against him.
I've reported to the police twice but the cases were never investigated. He's got it covered with his magick. They told me that I don't have a CCTV footage to prove my points i.e. my experience is looked as attention seeking imaginary stories. Have you noticed, perpetrators are always favored in crime and a victim is looked on as if they are the criminal. quote:
The reason for attempting to cut ties first, is that they often don't take the situation seriously unless it's clear that you've made a good-faith effort to push him out of your life and he has resisted.The justice system is best equipped to help people fight these battles, and that's one of the reasons it exists... so don't be afraid to use it.
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If for some reason you can't involve the courts, then you really only have a few options. You either stay on the move and hide, or else find someone with a few resources who you know is on your side, and stay with them so they can protect you until he gives up.
I've come to a conclusion that moving is not an option because, if he is that good at stalking (he attacks me every night psychically) then it's a piece of cake to find me again physically or psychically. quote:
Essentially, this could be compared to military strategy. My first stage was diplomacy and invoking the law, which is always ideal. The second idea of staying on the move and hiding while keeping a low profile is more like the way a spy or would deal with something. The final idea of staying with someone who has resources to help you endure the attacks is like soldiers barricading themselves in a fortress.[quote]
I really appreciate your logical thinking. 
But these two strategies won't work as above explanation. I am staying away from all friends because his magick spreads like a virus and affect those that are connected as well. His thinking is, if he can't get me, he will touch others that are close to me and make more misery to affect me. Get the iea?  [quote]The only idea I haven't covered, for fairly obvious reasons, is that of a direct assault. That would be very dangerous and likely illegal depending on the style you use.[/B]
I would never assault on the physical plane. I come to a conclusion that I can only fight in astral plane via magick which isn't covered by the mundane law. But I wanted to ask other people's opinion to see if I've left out anything in my thinking hence this thread.
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astra7
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posted September 24, 2015 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by florence:
The only strategy ive heard of, which actually might be more useful in the situation where your aggressor is your neighbour and can be persistent, is in the scenario of being captured and tortured. In that case, give up any notion of your life returning to its previous state because there hope and fear can be exploited.
He's been persistence so it will be persistence endurance match then. Only I've got detriment Mars in Libra. He has Pluto conj. Mars in Virgo. It's like losing game from the beginning. That's why I decided to borrow you guys' brain for an idea. IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted September 24, 2015 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Soltze:
If he uses magic indeed you need prayer and protection rituals...and no talking. Carry a consecrated pendant around your neck...any symbol you love.
If he's your neighbour tell him you only discuss issues in meetings for the building residents.I mean those happen where I live. If you don't like someone you can gladly ignore them...
I have been doing cleansing and protection but he attacks daily and it is exhausting. It feels like I have come to an end. He wants me to be his slave e.g. have no opinion, have no relationships or jobs and have poor health. Like a stone. If I attempt to gain, he will takes it away. It is quite hilarious to see his magick working in my life tbh. After cleansing, I feel better but the curse is soon put back on, certainly on next day. This is exactly the sort of thing happen... I was in a shop and the only way in.....as I entered the the shop, two people blocked me with their big shopping carts. I couldn't move forward as I was blocked. This is the physical manifestation of him blocking me from doing thing. I see many crosses (not christian ones but as you would write on a ballot paper), meaning I am crossed. I've never dreamed of becoming an atheist but I am like 90%.....God doesn't exist now.Talisman don't seems to have any effect. I was carrying a saturn's seal to ward off magick but to no effect. They also use spirits and pour libation on my yard regulary. I seems to manage ok with I can't stand! lolspirits using my routine but it's the humans
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CosmiqPhuz
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posted September 24, 2015 10:51 AM
"The Art of War" by Sun Tzu is a good book to have. I highly recommend getting it. Half of war is psychological.IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted September 24, 2015 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
"The Art of War" by Sun Tzu is a good book to have. I highly recommend getting it. Half of war is psychological.
Yes, not having read one YET, I am being cheeky to see if anyone could come up with an idea. OK, I've just downloaded it.
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18. All warfare is based on deception
Interesting.... that's Neptune, is it not? quote:
23. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them.
It looks like I'll have to make husband and wife team quarrel and kept busy. 
I'm gettin' the idea.
Gee, thanks for the tip!
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astra7
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posted September 24, 2015 11:00 AM
OK, this is an interesting one.
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Figure out what their strength is and use it against them.
So basically, I have to turn his persistence and 'overwhelm' strategy back against him. hmmn
I'm gonna have to sleep on this to see if I could use it. Anyone used it this way??You see it's all very well looking into the mirror to see where I am going wrong. For sure, I can make myself better but that won't stop him....that's the problem. I think I'll just have to be patient and persistant like him in the hope that one day FATE might give me a break. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted September 24, 2015 11:49 AM
I think you need a really good psychologist, not a war strategy.:edit: I have a question for you: If a woman was a victim of domestic violence (suffering physical and psychological abuse) - in your opinion, what would be the best thing for her to do: a) Stay in the relationship in order to prove to the abuser that she can take it - and that actually she is just as strong, if not stronger than he is - and she can "hurt him right back" (once she consults with a war strategist) Or b) LEAVE THE ABUSIVE SITUATION.
I do believe that at least 50% of all of this is completely in your head. But regardless of that, you feel abused. It makes no sense at all to remain in this situation and fight your abuser..
And what you said about him using his psychic powers to hunt you down everywhere - is completely paranoid.. So you DO need to see a psychologist about this to regain some sense of reality! Please! IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted September 24, 2015 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
I think you need a really good psychologist, not a war strategy.
It's OK, you are not the only person to think I am raving looney. I know...as soon as magick is mentioned...it goes that way. But there is no imagining. quote:
:edit:I have a question for you: If a woman was a victim of domestic violence (suffering physical and psychological abuse) - in your opinion, what would be the best thing for her to do: a) Stay in the relationship in order to prove to the abuser that she can take it - and that actually she is just as strong, if not stronger than he is - and she can "hurt him right back" (once she consults with a war strategist) Or b) LEAVE THE ABUSIVE SITUATION.
I do believe that at least 50% of all of this is completely in your head. But regardless of that, you feel abused. It makes no sense at all to remain in this situation and fight your abuser..
And what you said about him using his psychic powers to hunt you down everywhere - is completely paranoid.. So you DO need to see a psychologist about this to regain some sense of reality! Please!
He left a message, in fact, to say that he would not be seen even if he was standing right in front of me. So it is not paranoia.
Do you think my witnessing of the couple doing magical ritual on my yard was also a hallucination? If so then, that's fine. I know what I witnessed. In fact, it's OK if nobody believed. After all, you weren't there to witness and I can understand your doubt of it actually happening.As for abusive relationship scenario, of course it would be safer to leave the relationship but those people will have protective support from agency/organisation and will be looked after...be it re-location, id change etc. I would be in much worse situation, having to leave a secure home to renting/moving every six month. Our law on private renting is such that very disadvantage for private renters. Anyway, as I said previously, what is your point of benefit in moving if he can find me again? To me, that is pointless. I knew I am all alone. Thanks for your reality check. *Randall or mod, please delete this thread.* IP: Logged |
CosmiqPhuz
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posted September 24, 2015 02:42 PM
When you have strength, fake weakness. When you are weak, fake strength (I'm paraphrasing). For example, Sun Tzu would march his men side-by-side to deceive his enemies (and scare them off) when they were dwindled down. On the other hand, when his army was massive, he'd have them march front-to-back to conceal his strength. In war, one must behave like water running down rocks. In other words - flexibility and adjustability. Most importantly, according to Tzu, you must know yourself AND your enemy. You are taking a big gamble when you only know one or neither. Although, it's not my business and it's not my war, I love a good war tactic. If you are definitely certain that they are doing wrong to you, then try this: You could "divide their forces" by creating an illusion of infidelity in their marriage. For example, call their home from a payphone asking for the husband - it's his girlfriend. Or have a male friend do the same to the wife. IP: Logged |
athenian200
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posted September 24, 2015 05:21 PM
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I've come to a conclusion that moving is not an option because, if he is that good at stalking (he attacks me every night psychically) then it's a piece of cake to find me again physically or psychically.
Wait, so most of what he has done to you is through magick, right? And he's your neighbor? The thing you're not considering here is that he doesn't have to be very good at stalking to find you if you're living next to him in the same neighborhood. He could just look out the window of his house and see you. Most stalkers will give up if you move too far away. Isn't it possible that he's doing all this because he hates you and wants you to leave? I mean, you don't know that he'll follow you unless you try to actually move. If he does follow you, that gives you a stronger case. quote:
I really appreciate your logical thinking.
But these two strategies won't work as above explanation. I am staying away from all friends because his magick spreads like a virus and affect those that are connected as well. His thinking is, if he can't get me, he will touch others that are close to me and make more misery to affect me. Get the iea?
So, would it be fair to say that most of what he's doing to you and your friends is psychic or magical rather than physical? Well, it seems to me like the best way to deal with that would be through protective spells first, and possibly casting spells that bind him and harm his ability to cast magick. Something to make him distracted or mess with his third eye. The main thing to remember is that harmful magick comes back on the caster three times. So, there's a very good chance that everything he's done to you is going to come back on him even if you don't do anything. He's going to destroy himself with all that negative, harmful magick long before he destroys you. quote:
I would never assault on the physical plane. I come to a conclusion that I can only fight in astral plane via magick which isn't covered by the mundane law. But I wanted to ask other people's opinion to see if I've left out anything in my thinking hence this thread.
If you want to amplify your own magick, you could give his picture to people willing to cast binding spells and have them all cast a spell at the same time. Specifically, you want to bind/seal his third eye and his concentration. If his psychic power is depleted from constant attack, and he can't concentrate, he can't cast any spells. Still, I think it's better to use protective spells or talismans if possible, because negative magick does come back on the caster three times. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted September 24, 2015 05:39 PM
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It's OK, you are not the only person to think I am raving looney. I know...as soon as magick is mentioned...it goes that way. But there is no imagining.
The reason I am skeptical is not purely distrust in magick. There are other things that don't make sense here -- like the fact that you are not close, you never had a relationship - and as you said yourself - he is just a neighbour.
So what is his motivation for this? What reason do you think he has?
He woke up one day and decided to hate you?
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He left a message, in fact, to say that he would not be seen even if he was standing right in front of me. So it is not paranoia.
Well if he said that - it must be true. Clearly. By the way, I am Marilyn Monroe coming to you from the afterlife!
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Do you think my witnessing of the couple doing magical ritual on my yard was also a hallucination?
No.
They could be newagers, or hippies. I have no idea what they were doing or why they were doing it.
But I can't see why you would jump to the conclusion that this was a ritual to cause you harm?? Even if their -intention- was to cause you harm - I still firmly believe they couldn't, unless you let them in - by focusing your attention on them. I am sorry you were sick, but we are human and the world isn't a perfect place - and we all get sick. You don't need supernatural intervention to get sick.
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If so then, that's fine. I know what I witnessed. In fact, it's OK if nobody believed.
I believe what you saw. I just don't think it means what you think it does. quote:
Our law on private renting is such that very disadvantage for private renters.
I think you should make an attempt to move despite the difficulties - with the help of friends or family... because this has been going on for a long time now - and it is not good for you at all to be in this environment. quote:
Anyway, as I said previously, what is your point of benefit in moving if he can find me again? To me, that is pointless.
But he can't find you again!!!
Oh my God! Does he have a website? If he says he has such psychic powers, it's probably because he is trying to make money by convincing people he is "special" and can do psychic readings and spells for them.
With Mars/Pluto on Virgo - I'm positive this is all about money!!! quote:
I knew I am all alone. Thanks for your reality check.
Well YOU are the one keeping yourself entrapped in this situation, both psychologically and physically.
I had to be honest with you.
:edit: What if this guy is a typical money-hungry "new age special snowflake" who used your backyard to take photos or a film of himself casting spells (outside in the pretty moonlight) for his FB page??
Does he have his own backyard?
How do you know it's not something along these lines?
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Odette
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posted September 24, 2015 08:30 PM
Before the thread is closed... I just wanted to say I am not doubting that magic exists. What I doubt is that of all the fraudsters claiming to be magicians and psychics out there, you somehow managed to come across one who is part of that 1% of individuals who could be referred to as "the real deal"! And, in my opinion - very few of that genuine 1% would be using their talents for evil purposes - because there is such thing as karma.
Karma is something -genuine- gifted people would be aware of. Plus, real magicians wouldn't blow their own horn so much. That's an egomaniac who wants more clients to pay him for his "magical" services.... not a real magician or sorcerer. IP: Logged | |
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