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Topic: To be in a position of power.
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12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2777 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 11, 2016 02:48 AM
Someone asked me for forgiveness today. To me, the person put me in a "position of power", asking for things I can "give" and "allow". That made my skin crawl. It was like hearing nails on chalkboard. Some months ago, someone asked me for "a chance". I was like UGH. Anyone knows what I mean? Occasionally it's not such a turn-off. But most of the time it is. IP: Logged |
Vajra Moderator Posts: 1673 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 11, 2016 12:30 PM
^Yes. Such things make me feel exactly like you describe it and I hate that feeling. Was like that since early childhood.IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2253 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted May 11, 2016 01:39 PM
Yet, some will demand an apology and I'm sure that I've been guilty of it but generally I'll just sit back and wait. If an apology is asked for, can it really be counted on as genuine? If not then what is the point. I'm very rarely in that position as I'm usually the a-hole. However, typically if I've not made it clear in some way that I have forgiven then there's no point in asking. It does feel weird. Especially if I'm not ready to forgive because I won't forgive for forgiveness sake. So then I have to give them the bad news. IP: Logged |
ReachingForTheStars Knowflake Posts: 428 From: second star to the right, and straight on till morning Registered: Dec 2013
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posted May 11, 2016 11:19 PM
Mercury is RX so forgive me if I'm reading too much into this. I experience such things differently. It's not so much about being in a position of power as it is about having an uninvited responsibility. In fact, it feels more disempowering than anything else. There's a difference between "offering" an apology and "asking" for forgiveness. One is done freely and without obligation. It acknowledges your feelings and establishes healthy boundaries. The other creates a moral imperative where you feel obliged to concede in order to maintain your moral or ethical standards. That puts you at a disadvantage. You know this is the case if it involves a moral dilemma. Would you feel unduly vilified if you were to deny forgiveness even knowing you have right to? Asking for forgiveness is usually done out of selfishness or a need for approval, which is highly insincere and you can feel it. Instead of taking responsibility for whatever it is (s)he did, (s)he transferred that burden unto you. I hate that. It's defeating. Either the person doesn't know how to apologize, or you're being manipulated. I've learned that there's a reason for feeling repulsed by such requests and you should pay attention as to why. I don't like feeling imposed upon and I most definitely don't like people making a martyr of themselves at my expense. Is it a "position of power" or a false sense of it?
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StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 900 From: Sittin' on Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted May 12, 2016 05:30 AM
I'm always confused when someone asks me for forgiveness. If it's severe enough to warrant such a response, I've likely moved on from associating with that person entirely. There's been a few times when I've made it clear that the relationship is over, only to be asked this shortly after. It's like, really? How can I genuinely forgive you when I'm still upset about it? It's a way too personal to me, and maybe even a little inconsiderate, like asking me to hurry up and stop crying. And it puts me in a weird position because the truth (which is likely no) is not what they want to hear and not something I really want to say. To me, it's asking me to lie - not that I don't forgive anyone, ever, but I do it at my own pace. If it's anything less than severe (like an argument or perceived slight) than I promptly get over it within the span of about 3 seconds, and I likely won't remember it. There's nothing to forgive because I've pretty much wiped it from my brain - but some people still persist and ask for it. And that just feels awkward. It makes me wonder if they feel guilty about something else, since they're overcompensating for things that don't really matter. Sorry for the rambling. Mercury is Rx. In short: people are strange. And never ask a Virgo for forgiveness, because we'll probably make you cry. IP: Logged |