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Topic: Children Who Are Spanked Are More Likely To Be Abusive When They Grow Up!
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Randall
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posted January 12, 2018 11:02 PM
  
http://parentingisnteasy.co/stop-spanking-children/?utm_source=uplt&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=parents IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces
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posted January 13, 2018 12:34 PM
Thanks for the link.
We should have a global campaigh to protect kids.Today I read something about unprepared parents that didn't deal with their own issues having kids and passing all their pain to their children.The kid grow up,have their own child and do the same thing.It becomes a vicious circle.Some spiritual people also talk about how the base foundation of an individual is created before 7 years old. Did you ever watch "Child of rage"? (documentary)
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Empty Spaces
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posted January 13, 2018 01:16 PM
@Mirage are you around?I'm missing your good energy  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 15, 2018 02:35 PM
What I hear a lot is: "I was spanked as a kid, and I turned out all right."IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 15, 2018 05:29 PM
I think spanking may be good but not in anger.------------------
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anonymidarkness
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posted January 15, 2018 09:53 PM
^ What kind of spanking are you talking about? 
Jokes aside, I actually agree with that.
I think a little bit won't harm, like scolding, when it is out of love rather than out of this urge to take out their anger on their kids like most do. But I can see parents exploiting that little bit of freedom to spank their kids out of anger or to instill fear in their minds through which they can control them. Would an average Joe be able to maintain that balance of little bit of spanking? no .IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 16, 2018 02:31 PM
Few can separate their anger from the physical punishment.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 17, 2018 09:03 AM
Surely there are more effective means of discipline than infliction of pain?IP: Logged |
mirage29
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posted January 18, 2018 08:57 PM
Hi Empty Spaces {{  }}~* {edit} IP: Logged |
mirage29
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posted January 18, 2018 09:43 PM
 
http://www.yahoo.com/news/david-louise-turpin-fed-kids-192609099.html Free At Last  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 19, 2018 09:33 AM
They pleaded not guilty.IP: Logged |
mirage29
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posted January 19, 2018 11:25 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
They pleaded not guilty.
  ~yeah. right. It was the kids' fault?
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PixieJane
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posted January 24, 2018 11:25 PM
I didn't care for the article in the original post due to its manipulative language that was telling me what to think rather than objectively reporting on a study (which is itself weak because it sounds as if they focused on people in violent relationships, which is like asking how many of them play video games and, learning most do, saying video games are to blame when plenty of other gamers aren't so dysfunctional). And going by the way it was worded, it also conflates all who use corporal punishment with parents who have no self-control of their own, which is false, and it misses an important distinction between those who use corporal punishment (hopefully sparingly and as a last resort) with those who are essentially man-children and women-children.I'm not here to champion spanking of children, just saying that the article irked me and I find myself inclined to dismiss it because of how it was written. And generally speaking, I find I can tell a lot about parents by observing the child, and can have a good idea what a child is like by observing the parents. There are exceptions (which can include kids being better than their parents), but as a general rule the kids and parents are more alike than not, including in impulse control, whether they lash out in anger or not, even whether they use profanity or smoke, etc. This is regardless to whether or not the parents practice corporal punishment. Parents who use profanity are very likely to have kids that use it, even if they spank those kids for doing so (in which case the kids will use profanity when their parents can't hear until they're older). IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 26, 2018 05:19 PM
Good points.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 27, 2018 07:24 PM
Well, it was a CNN article, so...IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted January 27, 2018 09:42 PM
^ HahahaIP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 02, 2018 07:24 PM
Fake news!IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 22, 2019 05:19 PM
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aquaguy91
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posted September 26, 2019 10:41 AM
Spanking may not be ideal, but what are the alternatives? You have to teach kids right from wrong somehow. The first elementary school I went to spanked students and kids were well behaved. Every school I went to after that had a no spanking policy and kids were unruly. I mean think about it. What do schools do to punish kids in lieu of spanking? They suspend you. Heck, that is what a lot of kids want, so it is hardly a punishment. And at home, how do you enforce punishments 24/7, 365 days a year when parents are working? How do you know Junior is not going over to a friend's house when he is supposed to be grounded? Can spanking go too far? Can it damage kids? Yes on both counts. But I still think spanking responsibly is the best option. With spanking, there is an immediate and painful consequence for bad behavior. To my knowledge, no other form of punishment delivers that.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 26, 2019 06:35 PM
Punishment only works as long as the punisher remains present. There are always better alternatives than threats of physical pain. In the examples you give, spanking is removed without implementing other viable alternatives. If you watch the latest episode of Adam Knows Everything (about the police in schools being bad), you will see examples of those disciplinary methods that are effective. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted September 26, 2019 08:47 PM
All the schools I went to had corporal punishment and the kids were still misbehaving, at least when one who could punish was not present--great for keeping a class quiet and orderly, but when the cat is away the mice will play (and play hard, snitches get stitches). If anything, they were more defiant than I hear of a lot of kids in California where corporal punishment is banned (I want to grab some here and yell at them to grow a spine). Though I think it's just a factor. There are other social forces that I think are more involved. Still, even those scared to be spanked were just more careful not to be caught. Useful in keeping a classroom quiet, but the kids could be brutal themselves to each other when no adults were in sight. As a rule of thumb (with plenty of exceptions) I could tell a lot about the parents from the kids and vice versa because they were a lot alike in behavior (as kids are by nature imitative creatures, first looking to adults, and then as they get older, looking to each other), even if the kids got spanked for doing as the parents did rather than as the parents said. My own unusual situation gave me an unusual insight. Granny lived up to the standards she set for me and other kids who lived under her roof. There was rarely anger shown (though that might've been different when she was younger before I was born), and she tried to be harsh but fair as possible. I respected that, and even when I didn't caught for breaking some rule or doing something wrong I felt terrible. In contrast, my parents were monsters (complicated reasons for why, though one reason Granny was the way she was with us was to not make the mistakes she did as a mother) who expected me to do as they say not as they did, and obviously were more concerned with their own convenience than my welfare. I broke rules with impunity, even satisfaction, and the only regret when I was whipped (or worse) for it was that I got caught. Such is the difference between respect and fear. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted September 27, 2019 01:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
All the schools I went to had corporal punishment and the kids were still misbehaving, at least when one who could punish was not present--great for keeping a class quiet and orderly, but when the cat is away the mice will play (and play hard, snitches get stitches). If anything, they were more defiant than I hear of a lot of kids in California where corporal punishment is banned (I want to grab some here and yell at them to grow a spine). Though I think it's just a factor. There are other social forces that I think are more involved. Still, even those scared to be spanked were just more careful not to be caught. Useful in keeping a classroom quiet, but the kids could be brutal themselves to each other when no adults were in sight. As a rule of thumb (with plenty of exceptions) I could tell a lot about the parents from the kids and vice versa because they were a lot alike in behavior (as kids are by nature imitative creatures, first looking to adults, and then as they get older, looking to each other), even if the kids got spanked for doing as the parents did rather than as the parents said. My own unusual situation gave me an unusual insight. Granny lived up to the standards she set for me and other kids who lived under her roof. There was rarely anger shown (though that might've been different when she was younger before I was born), and she tried to be harsh but fair as possible. I respected that, and even when I didn't caught for breaking some rule or doing something wrong I felt terrible. In contrast, my parents were monsters (complicated reasons for why, though one reason Granny was the way she was with us was to not make the mistakes she did as a mother) who expected me to do as they say not as they did, and obviously were more concerned with their own convenience than my welfare. I broke rules with impunity, even satisfaction, and the only regret when I was whipped (or worse) for it was that I got caught. Such is the difference between respect and fear.
There's literally not a parent alive who doesn't go by the adage, "Do as I say, not as I do." Parent-child relationships are not equal. That's how it works. It's very similar to how workplaces treat employees. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 27, 2019 11:37 AM
Parents should lead by example.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 12, 2019 05:33 PM
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Randall
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posted December 08, 2019 06:00 PM
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