posted December 14, 2020 11:05 AM            

And what really, really ****** me off is how these women always reply to these messages. It doesn't matter how many days they have left me on read, They always have to get their last lies in. They also like to fake apologize and tell me how busy they are. They say things like "I'm sorry you feel that way, but I wasn't ignoring you. I'm just soooo busy." It's funny because I usually see these women extremely active on social media in the days leading up to these confrontations but they are supposedly too busy to respond to me. And then they do what really ****** me off. They imply that I'm insecure or too needy because I dislike being ghosted and ignored for days on end.

posted December 14, 2020 11:24 AM            

If you know “the truth”, why make it personal?

Aggressively retaliating against perceived rejection is wounded* masculinity.

posted December 14, 2020 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
What about you inspires you to seek out liars (or unavailable persons) for relating? Yo... if this dynamic (type of “woman”) is a pattern, check yourself

If you know “the truth”, why make it personal?

[b]Aggressively retaliating against perceived rejection is toxic masculinity.[/B]

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posted December 14, 2020 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
if this dynamic (type of “woman”) is a pattern, check yourself

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posted December 14, 2020 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

That's not a pattern exclusive to me, fool. It's how young women act in this post- instagram world.
I'm old enough to remember when girls and young women were normal. I was in high school from 2005 to 2009. I remember girls asking me on dates when I was an extremely shy and socially inept teen with no money. Now I'm an educated man who has upgraded my life in every way and I get treated like crap by women. I am a funded graduate student with obligations within my department and I also have several side projects going at any time. So, I'm obviously a very busy person and don't care to hear lies about how women are too busy to communicate with me

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Hey, no need to call her a fool. This has become a pattern, and you know what? You aren't the only one who has been ghosted. I went through a bitter period, too, and still have my moments, so I'm telling you as someone who has been there, that your own attitude can also be a problem here. If you vent like that after they reject you, you're just proving to them that they were right to blow you off.

posted December 14, 2020 02:15 PM            

http://medium.com/@tabithawasserman/why-do-women-lie-when-rejecting-men-5b31ad2880cf

http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2019/ mar/25/being-a-woman-is-scary-the-unspoken-danger-of-declining-a-mans-advances

http://www.buzzfeed.com/patricepeck/harassment-women-say-no-rejecting-men-toxic-mas culinity

posted December 14, 2020 02:27 PM            

Also, I am someone who is easily distracted. I'm forgetful - and even with good friends, I can forget to respond to things. My social anxiety still plays up, even with people that I know well, because I've had people mess with me before, and I recently lost another friend because she put trump before friendship, and couldn't tolerate anyone disagreeing with her (politely - I was never rude to her). If I cut out everyone who disagreed with me once or twice, I wouldn't have anyone to talk to.

posted December 14, 2020 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
And yes, I called her a fool and don't regret it. She doesn't even know me and is talking about toxic masculinity.

My post was probably too close to home for her. Women just want to have sex with Chads and want ugly guys like myself to just shut up and pay taxes so they can get their welfare and free abortions and birth control and pretend they are strong independent womyn. What a bunch of thots.

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No, no, no. Oh, god, I don't want to argue with you. As long as you have this attitude, you will be rejected.

posted December 14, 2020 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:

Vansio isn't that way, either

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posted December 14, 2020 02:41 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

Bull. She is spouting establishment nonsense. The establishment thinking encourages women to be thots in yoga pants who despise men who aren't Chads. And any guy like me who says anything is just an evil manifestation of "toxic masculinity." Yep, that's how it all works. Guys don't have feelings and we certainly aren't allowed to be angry about being mistreated and emotionally abused.

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posted December 14, 2020 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Anything women don't like about men is "toxic masculinity."

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And some men take advice from other bitter men, who have no respect for women (any woman), which won't help them in the long run, if they actually want a healthy relationship.

posted December 14, 2020 02:50 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
And some men take advice from other bitter men, who have no respect for women (any woman), which won't help them in the long run, if they actually want a healthy relationship.

This is getting to me. I need to get offline for a while.

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posted December 14, 2020 04:24 PM            

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Teasel,
Let me break it down for you. She said I'm toxic because I have feelings and feel bad when people ignore me and lie to me. To me, that makes her a fool.

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Why not just reflect mindfully upon the question vansio asked ... instead of continuing to project on others/women your own issue - of not being honest with yourself?

posted December 14, 2020 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Why not just reflect mindfully upon the question vansio asked ... instead of continuing to project on others/women your own issue - of not being honest with yourself?

So ... what is it in residents of wankerty wankerson that is attracting these women who lie to men?

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posted December 15, 2020 03:20 AM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Graham:
[b] Why not just reflect mindfully upon the question vansio asked ... instead of continuing to project on others/women your own issue - of not being honest with yourself?

So ... what is it in residents of wankerty wankerson that is attracting these women who lie to men?

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1, Notice how your subconscious is trying (via that response) to make you conscious/aware of what you are habitually/instinctively doing in your relationships with others.

2. On another thread, vansio linked members to http://www.youtu.be/oncfjBlw2gw ... which is a video about the current Grand Conjunction of Jupiter-Saturn, that I'd advise you to mindfully watch/reflect upon asap (as that particular window of opportunity is not upon to us for long).

posted December 15, 2020 06:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Folks, please be careful when making assumptions about people. Stick to the topic. This forum is for personal, sometimes painful experiences, please be aware of that when posting here. Thanks!

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In practice though - this forum is sometimes used as a refuge by those whose pain is resulting from a lack of self-awareness.

posted December 15, 2020 08:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
In practice though - this forum is sometimes used as a refuge by those whose pain is resulting from a lack of self-awareness.

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Perhaps. But you have to recognise when you are not helping someone, no matter how well-intended you may be. This forum should be a safe place to come to when things are difficult and I want it to stay that way.

posted December 15, 2020 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Perhaps. But you have to recognise when you are not helping someone, no matter how well-intended you may be. This forum should be a safe place to come to when things are difficult and I want it to stay that way.

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