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aquaguy91
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posted March 04, 2021 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As an introvert, I have always noticed that most people like to talk. They talk so much that they never shut up and listen. It's like they can't handle giving the floor to anyone else.

They simply have to be running their mouths. It's to the point where they cut people off and won't even let them finish their sentences without interrupting them. As a third house Mars and Moon person (Capricorn Mercury probably plays a role here too), I hate being interrupted. It's my biggest pet peeve. I feel very disrespected when people interrupt me or try to talk over me. To me, it's a sub communication that reveals that they think what I have to say isn't important.

It's also completely counterproductive and makes communicating that much more difficult when people interrupt each other. One thing I notice is people cut me off because they try to guess what I'm going to say before I even finish saying it. That really gets on my nerves.

I had a really frustrating interaction a few days ago where I was trying to relay some very important and timely information to my professor/advisor and she kept interrupting me. It might have taken me 10 or 20 seconds to relay the information to her if she had just listened to me. Instead, I had to keep repeating myself and backtracking because she wouldn't shut up and just listen!

It almost got to the point where I wanted to scream "Will you please STFU and let me tell you what I'm trying to say?" I was that frustrated! And that is something I see with people all the time. Nobody listens. Nobody is ever present and just taking in information. Everybody is freaking reacting to things moment to moment. Our world values extroversion too much. Don't get me wrong! Extroversion has its own advantages, but people need to learn how to work their introvert muscles as well.

Us introverts are present and take in information before we react to it. Extroverts are often seen as better communicators, but I would argue that introverts are better communicators because we actually know how to shut up and listen.

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Eternal Energy
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posted March 04, 2021 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a coincidence. Just yesterday a university student of mine was trying to tell his advisor that it wasn't his fault that he couldn't take his exam via Proctorio platform. It was the failing Internet connection that still hasn't been fixed in his area after the heavy snow we had here. His advisor wouldn't stop talking and he was so angry that after they hung up he just picked up a bag with some stuff and went over to his sister's place. Actually he is still there and we had to cancel our today's lesson. But we talked on the phone and he calmed down. He is also introvert, like you.

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posted March 04, 2021 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can relate. I hate being cut off too, but I can monologue from time to time, so sometimes it's my own fault for not being able to say things in less words.

Something that really rips my knitting is when you are talking one on one with someone and you are paying attention and listening to what they are saying, and they are making eye contact with you, then when it's your turn to talk they cut eye contact and/or start doing stuff. Just completely not paying attention. Until you stop talking, then they make eye contact again to ensure they have an audience.

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posted March 04, 2021 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is rare for anyone to listen. I have really tried lately to HEAR what people are saying under the words. We all need that.

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posted March 05, 2021 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:

I can monologue from time to time, so sometimes it's my own fault for not being able to say things in less words.



That's not a good reason for people to interrupt you and cut you off. My own family members are very disrespectful to me and they constantly cut me off and shout things like "spit it out!" when I am trying to talk. Like that is going to make the interaction go smoother! I swear... People are so f##### dumb. I feel like I am an alien on this dumbed down, shallow planet where people have short attention spans and can't handle substance and depth.

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posted March 05, 2021 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
What a coincidence. Just yesterday a university student of mine was trying to tell his advisor that it wasn't his fault that he couldn't take his exam via Proctorio platform. It was the failing Internet connection that still hasn't been fixed in his area after the heavy snow we had here. His advisor wouldn't stop talking and he was so angry that after they hung up he just picked up a bag with some stuff and went over to his sister's place. Actually he is still there and we had to cancel our today's lesson. But we talked on the phone and he calmed down. He is also introvert, like you.



Yep, that's basically what happened with me, but the circumstances weren't exactly the same. I just don't get it... How do people miss that glaring blindspot??? When you interrupt people they can't communicate what they are trying to say. It's so frustrating and annoying. That's a big reason I avoid people as much as possible. They are impossible to deal with and stress me out.

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posted March 05, 2021 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Huber-Style natal chart has Mercury at the low-energy point of a Scorpio/2nd house.

In the Huber system of astrology, "planets at the low energy point of a house have difficulty in making themselves heard by others". This results in overcompensation by the chart owner, and he/she then attempts to 'increase the volume" of the message or to restate it repeatedly until feedback confirms that it has finally been heard.

The overcompensation then results in the other person (A) concluding that the chart owner is a person (B) who "forces his/her views upon others" ... and person A then makes a (subconscious) mental note to ignore the comments of person B in the future.

Hence ... the Huber School asserts that "it is important for an individual with a Low Point planet to become aware of the way in which the energy is attempting to be expressed, and to learn to control its output until its potential is fully understood and its energy can be projected outwards QUIETLY and SUCCESSFULLY."

[Note : I get that this board is for expressing feelings rather than seeking potential astrological explanations or/and solutions. ... And, with that in mind, I confirm that there have been many occasions in my life when I have voiced an opinion in a group; watched the conversation continue as though I had not spoken and asked myself "did I actually state my comment out loud, or just imagine that I had?"]

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posted March 05, 2021 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:

[Note : I get that this board is for expressing feelings rather than seeking potential astrological explanations or/and solutions. ...



Kick rocks, troll. None of that is remotely related to what I'm talking about. I don't like you, and I think you are an a-hole. You were a jerk to me after my mom died,and I don't forgive or forget things like that. I don't value anything you have to say and wish you wouldn't enter my threads. You are a worthless sociopath. Go away!

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posted March 05, 2021 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm talking about a very specific and tangible phenomenon. Your post is theoretical and assumes a lot of things. YOU ASSUME that I am playing out the pattern described in your post. Don't assume things. Ever. My other pet peeve is idiots who assume things without knowing the facts.

There is a big difference between what you are describing and me trying to convey very important information to someone who won't listen. Again, your whole post is off base and your little passive aggressive attitude is way out of line. I have no problem telling a little gamma male like you to f### right off.

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posted March 05, 2021 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's an example of what I'm talking about. This is a purely hypothetical situation to give you an idea of the crap I deal with. Imagine that I went to McDonald's to eat lunch and my car got stolen there and I'm trying to convey that information to my boss to explain why I won't be able to return to work after lunch. Here's how that conversation might look:
Me: *Dials number*

Boss: Hello, this is so and so

Me: Hi sir, this is Aqua Guy, I'm over here at McDonald's and...

Boss: *Cuts me off* I love McDonald's, what did you get? I always get the mcrib sandwich. I hate how they only have it sometimes. Blah blah blah blah blah *more self important extrovert small talk*

Me: Uh.. actually...

Boss: *cuts me off again before I have a chance to relay that very important information to him about my car being stolen*


^^^ That is what I'm talking about. That has nothing to do with me forcing my thoughts on anyone. It also has nothing to do with me being bad at communicating, but it has everything to do with my boss not listening and not letting me finish what I'm trying to say!!!!! Is that clear enough?

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posted March 05, 2021 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm ... No wonder people don't care one jot about what you have to say, AQUAGUY.

In those rare moments when thinking interferes with your venting/ranting, has it ever dawned on you that "to get respect, you need to show respect to others"?

However, I shall respect your request for me to ignore you completely from now on.

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posted March 05, 2021 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hmmm ... No wonder people don't care one jot about what you have to say, AQUAGUY.

In those rare moments when thinking interferes with your venting/ranting, has it ever dawned on you that "to get respect, you need to show respect to others"?

However, I shall respect your request for me to ignore you completely from now on.



F$$$ you! You are a loathsome little gamma male. You are always a passive aggressive little s### when you post in my threads. I have no use for an a$$hole like you who tries to be a prick to people under the guise of giving your opinion. Again, your post was very presumptive and had nothing to do with me or what I'm describing. You were trying to be an a$$hole. Don't play games. I see through you. You are a true sociopath

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posted March 05, 2021 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you should respect others. Especially people who are grieving and under a lot of stress, you piece of $h!t.

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posted March 05, 2021 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I respect people who aren't passive aggressive pieces of **** who try to cause more pain for hurting people. F##k you and your phony politeness and civility. I don't know if there is a Hell, but if there is people like you are going there.

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posted March 06, 2021 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To those who are able to intellectually grasp that ignoring the Aquababy is not the same as not posting comments on his self-obsessed threads ... I'd like to point out the correct way to begin a conversation explaining to your boss that you cannot return to work after lunch is "Hi .. this is Aquababy, and I'm phoning to let you know that I cannot return to work today because ............".

That way, the boss does not get sidetracked into talking about anything other that why you are not returning to work ... and you can be sure that he will be listening closely to what you have to say.

But, of course, Aquababy's head is so far up his ass that it is impossible to shine a light on anything that might move him away from his subjectivity/self-obsession.

By the way folks ... I have absolutely no intention here of giving in to the tyranny of Astrobaby (and his "right" to prevent me from posting on "HIS" threads ... if he behaves like a spoilt child, I intend to treat him like a spoilt child - and it really does not matter to me that he may behave that way because (say) his mother dropped him on his head when he was a baby.

And I disagree fundamentally with the view that fuelling this 30-years-old child's delusions is either helping him or an act of kindness.


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posted March 06, 2021 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Incidentally ... does anyone on this forum happen to know why Aquababy is so hung-up about alpha/gamma males? ... That might explain why he behaves like a dickhead (ie. obnoxious little prick).

And ... why can this forum moderator from Wankerty Wankerson not see that "Hell exists on Earth", and that he is already in it?

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