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Topic: Lady Ami Anne.. Can you help with Nessus and Dejanira?
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Ami Anne
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posted May 28, 2011 12:09 PM
  
You are so sweet Mert.
I will be back with a fresh eye Darling
Ask me anything.I will answer if I can!------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted May 29, 2011 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Thx a lot. It seems you have quiet knowledge about it. If it does not bother you, can you inform me about their placements in my natal chart?Nessus in 7th house in libra
Conjuncts Ceres!!(getting nurtured by abusing?)
Sextiles Jupiter
Squares Neptune
Trines Dejanira Dejanira is in 12th house in aquarias
İt trines Nessus
İt squares Pluto in 8 in scorpio
İt opposes Jupiter Lilith in sagittarus in 9th house (about to conjunct 10th cusp 2.5 degree)
Trines Jupiter
Sextiles Ceres
Conjuncts Juno
Conjuncts Venus (2,6 degree)
Squares Moon My Kaali in 8th house scorpio
Conjuncts Pluto 1.8 degree
Squares Jupiter 2.1 degree
Trines Moon 1.9 degree
Squares Dejanira Many of allowed orb is less than 2 =))
Nessus in the 7th conjunct Ceres,sextile Jupiter,square Neptune and trine Deja
Well,as I said a 7th house planet/asteroid may not own itself and hence find itself outside in a partner.
You do NOT want to do this with Nessus lol
Taken literally, you could find an abuser.
The fact that is it conjunct Ceres---hmmmm--I am not sure what that does. It may weaken your ability to nurture would be my guess.
You may merge nurturing with abuse in some way.
I need IQ for that one  The fact that Nessus sextiles Jupiter and trines Deja makes Nessus not "bad",I would think.
It takes the bad abuser part away from Nessus and gives it grace,I would think.
The square to Neptune may make it hard for YOU to see Nessus. This coupled with it being in the 7th,you may get abused and not realize it.
Does any of this fit? Have you been with woman who have treated you abusively? IP: Logged |
MertSerimer
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posted May 29, 2011 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Nessus in the 7th conjunct Ceres,sextile Jupiter,square Neptune and trine Deja
Well,as I said a 7th house planet/asteroid may not own itself and hence find itself outside in a partner.
You do NOT want to do this with Nessus lol
Taken literally, you could find an abuser.
The fact that is it conjunct Ceres---hmmmm--I am not sure what that does. It may weaken your ability to nurture would be my guess.
You may merge nurturing with abuse in some way.
I need IQ for that one The fact that Nessus sextiles Jupiter and trines Deja makes Nessus not "bad",I would think.
It takes the bad abuser part away from Nessus and gives it grace,I would think.
The square to Neptune may make it hard for YOU to see Nessus. This coupled with it being in the 7th,you may get abused and not realize it.
Does any of this fit? Have you been with woman who have treated you abusively?
hmmm no. At least not yet i can say..
But before someone abuses me, i am very sure i can realize it.. Because i have intimacy issues anyway, first "she" has to break it -me finally deciding allowing her to come close to me and me getting closer to her(note that even i fall in love with that "her" intimacy issues are still there even with her), secondly that "she" has to break my paranoidial trust issues and i can finally start to trust her.. after that she can abuse me.. there are noone out there who passed these two stages yet=)). By the way, i found in your topic about rulers in houses that fifth ruler in first can make you casonnavo which is perfectly fits for me and it explains why there isnt ayone who passed two stages.. it explains maybe why i am not offering a chance them to pass or time... And can you be specific about abusing? A woman abusing me in a psychical way is impossible(more than impossible), in an emotinal way, since pluto created that shell it seems very hard too, only way a woman can abuse me is by abusing my subconsciously which i can not comprehend easily and it is just an opinion abusement which is acceptable i guess... Even i become BLIND by the love of my life, my friends and family wont let her do this i guess=)) BUT THX FOR WARNING lady =)))) IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 29, 2011 04:09 PM
I BET you are a Cassanova ,Mert lol
Well,as far as abuse,if/when you let a woman in to your heart be careful what type of person she is.
That being said, I think one must learn one's Nessus lessons by pure screwing up.
That being said--Good Luck  ------------------
‎"Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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carl
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posted June 02, 2011 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok Nessus in the 7th could make it that you would seek Nessus in a partner.
In simple terms, you could find abusive relationships.
I have this placement ,too.
Whatever you have in the 7th ,you tend to meet on the outside until you accept it in yourself.
You and I need to find our own bad boy
**I have Nessus in the 7th too but have had two incredible long term relationships that both ended in heart break but were by no means abusive so I must have some cushion elsewhere in the chart. They were both very sweet girls. Even with my short term relationships, I can not recall any physical harm or verbal abuse from the women I was with, and in fact, generally find very classy, feminine, gentle.. but strong willed, dynamic women. My 7H Nessus is 18 degree Leo and square my Scorpio Saturn also at 18 degrees. This one worries me as I might be restrictive in relationships with my lover, since saturn can represent limitations and Nessus is in my 7th house. It is also squares my 14 degree sun in 9th house. I don't know if this furthers your point of avoiding people who put down my character or if I might make someone feel guilty about how they have hurt me (the "pity me" abuser so to speak) Have yet to find it yet though! What would it mean if it was square my ceres taurus at 19 degree?
However it makes a nice trine with my moon and venus (Moon in aries 21 degree, venus in sag, 21 degree) which might lighten the saturn square and make me aware.
Nessus makes no aspect with my Dejanira which is in Scorpio 3 degrees in house 9. Does house 9 mean I might become a victim while traveling? I have been violently assualted, found to have cancer and gotten in two fights while traveling and nothing of that sort ever happens while I am at home.
DJ is conjunct my pluto (2 degree scorp). Does this provide for positive transformation through the role of a victim, that I might be able to overcome it? Dejanira trines my pisces pallas (4 degree) and P For (0 degree). Opposite my taurus (8 degree) Sedna and sextile my lust in Virgo (5 degree). IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 02, 2011 03:14 PM
Deja conjunct Pluto is great Carl. It makes you stand up against bullying.
I have it ,too. Your Nessus and Deja seem pretty good Carl lol ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted June 02, 2011 03:30 PM
Carl and Mert
I do not have bad Nessus and Deja in my chart. It comes in to play WHEN you hit someone else's in synastry if you do not have it bad in the natal.------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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JohnFKennedy
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posted July 17, 2011 03:33 PM
I have a question.. in synastry what would it mean if my Venus/Eros was in conjunction with his Deja on his IC? And my nessus and his Pluto were in an exact conjunction on my ascendant? (Same synastry chart) IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 17, 2011 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
I have a question.. in synastry what would it mean if my Venus/Eros was in conjunction with his Deja on his IC? And my nessus and his Pluto were in an exact conjunction on my ascendant? (Same synastry chart)
Let me think about this.This is big but my mind is tired lol
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2011 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
I have a question.. in synastry what would it mean if my Venus/Eros was in conjunction with his Deja on his IC? And my nessus and his Pluto were in an exact conjunction on my ascendant? (Same synastry chart)
JFK Your Venus/Eros conj his Deja. You love his little boy side.You love the weakest ,most vulnerable part of him Do YOU have Nessus conj YOUR ASC?
If so,I want to ask you some questions
lol OK If Your Nessus conj his Pluto on your ASC then I have only one word to say  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2011 07:02 AM
JFK
I have Eros conj Venus ,too.How do you feel it?------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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JohnFKennedy
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posted July 18, 2011 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
JFK Your Venus/Eros conj his Deja. You love his little boy side.You love the weakest ,most vulnerable part of him Do YOU have Nessus conj YOUR ASC?
If so,I want to ask you some questions
lol OK If Your Nessus conj his Pluto on your ASC then I have only one word to say
That is VERY true. Like I said in a different thread, he's a former marine and currently a police offer, extremely traditionally masculine. Women are constantly at his feet hoping that he's going to save them, white horse and knights sword and all. But I really do feel touched when he mentions his fears and some of his devastating memories in the past, to me.. I don't view him as this masculine soldier but as a human being. He also has moon conjunct venus natally so he wears that role pretty well when he lets people in. And yes I have nessus on my ascendant! 1 degree in my 1st house 
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JohnFKennedy
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posted July 18, 2011 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
JFK
I have Eros conj Venus ,too.How do you feel it?
I have it in my 7th house.. I feel the conjunction is only activated once there is a general atmosphere of romance around me. I don't think it's a power I can turn "on and off", necessarily.. the situation has to call for it and summon it, so to speak. I know there is a lot of sudden erotic energy I put out by doing something as simple as brushing back my hair or holding a smile a little longer then normal. I feel like it's very much a "projection" aspect, men getting caught in our web because they sense something erotic about us where it might not even be the case. I think that's how its mostly manifested for me. IP: Logged |
Taineberry
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posted July 19, 2011 09:15 AM
Could you explain this synastry connection? : His Dejanira conjunct her South Node
opposite
her Dejanira conjunct her North Node. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 19, 2011 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Could you explain this synastry connection? : His Dejanira conjunct her South Node
opposite
her Dejanira conjunct her North Node.
OK
His weakest,victim part is familiar with her, like a worn stuffed animal HER own Deja, her own weak and victim part ,is her life's mission to own and use.
Perhaps, she would be a counselor for rape victims or work at a battered woman's shelter.
You see how it works? ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Taineberry
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posted July 19, 2011 12:56 PM
Ah, ok I get it now. Thanks Ami.  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 19, 2011 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Ah, ok I get it now. Thanks Ami.
Back at ya Taine ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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