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Glaucus
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posted December 03, 2008 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to discuss about the very distant transneptunian object, Sedna.


90377 Sedna (pronounced /ˈsɛdnə/ SED-nə ) is a trans-Neptunian object and a likely dwarf planet, discovered by Michael Brown (Caltech), Chad Trujillo (Gemini Observatory) and David Rabinowitz (Yale University) on November 14, 2003. It is currently 88 AU from the Sun, about three times farther than Neptune. For most of its orbit Sedna is farther from the Sun than any other known dwarf planet candidate.[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90377_Sedna


In Inuit mythology, Sedna (Inuktitut Sanna, ᓴᓐᓇ ) is a deity and god of the marine animals, especially mammals such as seals. She lives in and rules over Adlivun, the Inuit underworld. Sedna is also known as Arnakuagsak or Arnarquagssaq (Greenland) and Nerrivik (northern Greenland) or Nuliajuk (District of Keewatin, Northwest Territories). Although Sedna is sometimes thought to predominate throughout the Canadian Arctic she was known by other names by different Inuit groups. One example of this is Arnapkapfaaluk (big bad woman) [1] of the Copper Inuit from the Coronation Gulf area. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedna_(mythology)


Roy MacKinnon,who has a close Sun-Sedna conjunction himself, wrote this about Sedna:

"If there is a phrase which really means something to me about Sedna it is
NOT OF THIS WORLD. To me it has a most specific spiritual influence. You
only have to think of Sedna's extraordinary orbit to realise that it wants
to take you away from this world right to the very limits of the solar
system. Exactly what the spiritual nature is, is something which is
dictated by the planets aspecting Sedna. Adverse aspects may be connected
to temptations to deviate from the path of a spiritual destiny to that of
a more mundane, maybe even monetary one, where satisfactions are obtained
in this life and not banked karmically."

"I think it is because self-interest is denied by Sedna that it mistakenly
becomes associated with sacrifice. In truth Sedna doesn't deny the real
self - only the mundane temporal self. In truth Sedna feeds the eternal
self, that part of the very core of our being which aspires to holiness.
It seems to me it is precisely because of this strong non-temporal
influence that Sedna can be seen associated with events NOT OF THIS TIME
or for that matter NOT OF THIS CIVILIZATION. Sometimes I see it active in
death charts. In such cases it is signifying that the departed soul is NO
LONGER OF THIS WORLD."

"Whatever it is that fuels the Sedna quality in someone it is usually
unseen yet essential. Sedna works in the inky blackness unseen by the
mundane world very often - it is not of the personality, it is of the
essence, of the spirit. It is the fuel of the Refiner's Fire. It can be
the signature of unending love from a family member to the self or of a
lover but beware the love of the lover that it is not a delusion suffering
from mistaken identity. It seems to me to be more like the signature of
the right hemisphere of the brain, intuitve, non-logical, non-linear
rather than the strict logic of limited mathematical proof which,
appropriate in its own right hemisphere domain, is very limited in the
deep and darkness."

"Whatever carries this flavour, bears this subtle and almost intangible
quality, exhibits this subtle nuance, is of the world of Sedna, difficult
to perceive, just as difficult to describe but the characteristic flavour
is unmistakeably unique."

I already thought there was a metaphysical quality about Sedna with it being an object that orbits well beyond the planet of physical boundaries,Saturn but is also transneptunian.

with it connected to mythology of the Inuit seagoddess, it seems Neptune-like in its characteristics
but with it being in the most distant regions in the solar system like Inuit Seagoddess in the far depths of the Arctic Ocean, there seems to be an "out of this world" and remote quality about Sedna.

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posted December 03, 2008 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to discuss how Sedna works in my chart.

Sedna seems to be involved in numerous planetary geometrical configurations


My Sedna is in 2'06 Taurus
oppose my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
sextile my Moon in 3'10 Pisces

Wedge of Sedna in Taurus oppose/sextile Sun in Scorpio-Moon in Pisces trine

In my Right Ascension chart:

My Sedna is in 3'46 Taurus
oppose my Sun in 3'02 Scorpio
sextile my Moon in 3'10 Pisces
for a tight orbed Wedge.

also in Right Ascension, my Sun conjunct Neptune/Pluto midpoint with '33
so I have midpoint picture of Sun = Sedna = Neptune/Pluto


With my Sun oppose Sedna,
my father was out of this world and remote for I never knew the man.
There is something of that in me...after all I inherited a lot of his personality traits without even knowing the man. My mom says that I am so much like him.
He was also highly superstitious. He believed that Voodoo magick worked. My mother told me that he even gathered up his hair after every haircut so it wouldn't be used against him. He grew up with his grandmother who believed in magick protection. He was a Black Creole from the New Orleans,Lousiana area. He didn't get involved with metaphysical stuff even though he believed in it. He was a Baptist.

My Moon sextile Sedna, I think that there is a remoteness and sacrificial qualities about my mother.
She also believes in metaphysical stuff, but she's not into that stuff. My mom is a Roman Catholic. I am a lot like my mom in regards to my personality too. I am like both my parents in personality which seem very similar. I think that's reflected by my Sun trine Moon with 2'10 orb. They were also both watersign moons. My Mom is a Scorpio Moon, and my father was a Pisces Moon. My mother has Sun in 12th trine Neptune which went well with my father's Pisces Moon and also reflected the Neptunian nature of her father who also had Moon in Pisces.


12th Harmonic Isosceles Trapezoid of Moon,Sedna,Neptune,Pluto
with corresponding midpoint pictures:
Moon/Neptune midpoint in 17'29 Capricorn
oppose Pluto/Sedna midpoint in 16'28 Cancer

Magi Society refers to that as a magi quad. The Hamburg School calls it a planetary picture. David Cochrane(founder of Cosmic Patterns,Kepler) calls it an isosceles trapezoid.

and it consists of 2 yods

Yod of Sedna in Taurus quincunx Neptune in Sagittarius-Pluto in Libra sextile
with corresponding midpoint pictures:

Sedna oppose Neptune/Pluto - '46
Neptune semisquare Pluto/Sedna - '18

Yod of Pluto quincunx Moon in Pisces-Sedna in Taurus sextile
with corresponding midpoint pictures:
Pluto oppose Moon/Sedna - 1'47
Sedna semisquare Moon/Pluto - '05


The Moon,Neptune,Pluto,Sedna configurations could indicate the intense,transformative,remote,sensitive, otherworldliness of my emotional nature connected my mother and other women in my life

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posted December 03, 2008 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a 11th harmonic aspect pattern of Mercury,Mars,Saturn,Uranus,Sedna,and Ascendant

11th harmonic is said to be associated with social consciousness and to reach beyond oneself for help.

My Mercury,Saturn,Uranus,and Sedna are in an 11th harmonic aspect isosceles trapezoid.

Mercury undecile Uranus - '19
Mercury quinqueundecile Sedna - '07
Uranus quinqueundecile Sedna - '26
( with corresponding midpoint picture of:
Sedna oppose Mercury/Uranus - '17)

I believe that this configuration indicates my nonlinear thought processes along with being innovative,creative(can seem too out there in my thinking like crazy,nutty)highly imaginative,strong 3D visualization abilities,non-stop visualization because of picture thinking being my primary mode of thought)

Mercury quinqueundecile Saturn - '25
Mercury quinqueundecile Sedna - '07
Saturn undecile Sedna - '17
(with corresponding midpoint picture of:
Mercury oppose Saturn/Sedna midpoint - '16)

I also believe that this configuration also indicates my strong 3D visualization abilities...especially in regards to looking at geometry, but also can be problems with communications as well thoughts of inadequacy,depression)

not only do I have those 11th harmonic triangles,
I also have an opposition of midpoints

Mercury/Sedna in 10'13 Aquarius
oppose Saturn/Uranus in 10'12 Leo
conjunct/oppose Lunar Nodes are in 10'29 Aquarus/Leo

as you see, they are opposite each other with only 1 minute of arc. Magi Society refers to that as a magi quad. The Hamburg School calls it a planetary picture. David Cochrane(founder of Cosmic Patterns,Kepler) calls it an isosceles trapezoid. The midpoints are closely aligned with the lunar nodes.


here are my other midpoints involving Sedna:

my other midpoints involving Sedna
square Venus/Eris - '05
square Saturn/Pluto - '53


Sedna square Venus/Eris seems to indicate my love nature involves diversity(Eris) and otherworldliness(Sedna),and this manifests into interracial relationships with spiritually oriented types. Of course,these relationships can incite bigotry from ideologically remote types.
I have an attraction to women that are divergent and otherworldly too, but they can be ideological and remote too.

Sedna square Saturn/Pluto seems to do with otherworldly transformations that have to do with shrinking or hardening


On a strong hunch, I checked to see if Sedna was prominent by solar arc when I was first placed in Special education with mentally retarded in 1st grade because my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia were mistaken for mental retardation. This would seem to help confirm my suspicion that my Mercury,Saturn,Uranus,Sedna configurations figure in my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia. As a child, I was definitely really "out there" and remote compared to normal children. That is how special education needs children are usually seen...especially the nonverbal autistics. Many of them grouped as being retarded even though many aren't. Dyspraxia has some connections with autism. Many Dyspraxics have Aspergers and vice versa. I don't have Aspergers Syndrome. I am actually hypersensitive to emotional,social cues. My mother told me that when I was a baby,she would give me a certain look to show that she disapproved of what I was doing,and I would stop what I was doing. I tend to overreact to negative facial expressions,tone of voice but respond very positively to positive facial expressions,tone of voice. I pick up on a lot of subtle stuff without realizing it. Even my mom admitted to me that she even use me to see how I react to people. This was even in my teens.

Solar Arc Midheaven in Gemini semisquare Natal Sedna - '00

This means that this solar arc was going on when I started kindergarten. I had this solar arc throughout all the time that I was in kindergarten. I was in a regular class throughout all kindergarten, but I had difficulties because of severe communication problems(the midheaven in Gemini) connected to language difficulties(Dyslexia) and coordination difficulties(Dyspraxia). You might even thought that I was an autistic because of my speech problems,my hypersensitivity to external stimuli. Sedna could be involved in hypersensitivity that is worse than Neptune.


not only that...the transits when I started special education

September 6, 1977

Sedna in 5'13 Taurus R
Chiron in 5'25 Taurus R

oppose my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd
square my Pluto/Midheaven in 6'02 Leo


Sedna does move extremely slowly, and so the transits take a long time, but this could actually play a part of my early development as it opposes my Sun...with Chiron can be about special needs..with my Sun being 3 degrees from 3rd house cusp, this can be about special education......the square to Pluto/MC can also involve development which Pluto can be about...the Midheaven connection makes it more personal event too

Sedna is no joke. I am definitely going to be using it regularly with Eris,Ceres for now on.


I would like to get your thoughts,feelings about Sedna in your life and/or other's lives.

You can calculate your Sedna and its midpoints here http://www.megadelfi.com/~jonathan/pos/


Transiting North Lunar Node is currently conjunct my North Lunar Node-Mercury/Sedna. Transiting Jupiter and Mars will join in Febuary of next year. looks good for connections,associations,unions with otherworldly types.

Transiting Pluto will be forming an isosceles triangle 12th harmonic transit to my wedge of Moon,Sedna,Quaoar (My Moon trines/sextile Quaoar-Sedna opposition)
It could be an intense,transformation otherworldly experience....hoping that it will manifest as a profound relationship with a spiritually oriented type of woman.

Raymond

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posted December 04, 2008 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 9th harmonic triangle of Venus,Sedna,Midheaven
Venus quadranovile Midheaven - '33
Venus quadranovile Sedna - '18
Sedna novile Midheaven - '52
(with corresponding midpoint picture of
Venus oppose Sedna/Midheaven - '07)

This indicates that my love nature involves things "out of this world"(Sedna) and my aim of life(Midheaven). This would indicate that my love nature can be a bit otherworldly with my strong desire for a soulpartner that can be out of reach. That my chances of finding true love can even be remote. My relationship partners can be otherworldly.

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posted December 04, 2008 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sedna’s story of survival after terrible abuse is a symbolic testament to the eons of people who have had the same experience, in their own way, and in their own situations. Seeing Sedna simply as a victim and bemoaning her horrific treatment is not where this myth takes us. By not minimizing her suffering, by acknowledging her terrible treatment, we then see her metamorphosis into a sea goddess, one who can even in her abashed state bring life. Suffering, death and rebirth as a goddess is Sedna’s story, and in it many women can find a figurative analogy for their own lives.

Sedna can teach us that we can transform ourselves and survive. Sedna has entered our mainstream of thought process now and will continue to, instructing us about our lives during our sojourn here on earth. How does this relate to us, and our current life path?

Sedna is currently in the sign of Taurus and will be until 2023, when she enters Gemini. Since Sedna spends such a long time in each sign, (for over 50 years) the degree she is currently inhabiting is more important to an individual chart of analysis then the sign itself, which is of overall worldly impact. In essence it is a mini version of an epochal age, as in the age of Pisces, which we are leaving, or age of Aquarius, which we are entering, though on a much smaller scale of course.

The degree Sedna is now in is between 19 to 20 degrees of Taurus, and that will be true until February of 2010. Taurus is one of the signs of Spring. Taurus is the second sign of the zodiac, it comes after Aries, the quintessence of new birth. Taurus is the sign of the gardener, since by the time we get to Taurus our gardens have been planted, and we are now tending them, and they are starting to bloom. Taurus is the green sign, it is the sign of plants, flowers, herbs, and of the earth itself.

Sedna is in Aries for anyone born from January 1900 till February of 1968, when it entered into Taurus full time. Anyone born during the months of July or August of 1965, May to November 1966, or April to December 1967 has Sedna in Taurus instead of Aries. Any child born from now until 2023 will have Sedna in Taurus. That means that Sedna is associated with new births and new beginnings for everyone in this time period. Sedna’s story of being horribly abused is one that needs to find release, for both herself and for the myriads of people who share her odyssey. Victims of childhood sexual and physical abuse are now able to tell their tales and obtain freedom from the bondage of shame that may have trapped them for years.

Every time a faster moving planet or luminary, i.e. the Moon or the Sun, impacts on the current degree of Sedna it will trigger that aspect in our natal charts.

For example when the Moon is at 19-20 degrees of Taurus in its monthly orbit through the zodiac, it will be conjunct to Sedna. Once that happens it may trigger for us emotional memories of events in our lives that were abusive. This would last for a day or so, but it might cause us to feel some unresolved grief issues surrounding that abuse.

Now let’s take a look at what to expect when the other planets make contact with Sedna at the 19-20 degree point.

Moon: Discussed above.

Sun: Around the 10th or 11th of every month. When "Desperate Housewives" actress Terri Hatcher told her story of the sexual abuse she suffered as a child to a major magazine the story broke on the newswires on March 9th, 2006, and the Sun was in Pisces, Sextile to Sedna. Sun aspects to Sedna will give us the confidence we need to tell our stories, and to come to terms with them.

Favorable aspects to Sedna occur when a planet or luminary is in Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Virgo, Capricorn, or Pisces. We will feel able to come to terms with our past experiences, whether we choose to share them with others or not.

Difficult aspects, which occur when a planet or luminary is in Leo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, or Aquarius, will make it more difficult for us to accept certain situations in our past. We need to be kind to ourselves at those times, and know that healing, along with forgiveness for those we feel have hurt us, will come to us when the time is right. We don’t need to follow an agenda, or someone else’s script. Each one of us has our own timetable, and that needs to be honored and respected.

Mercury, Venus, Mars: Varies throughout the year. Mercury hitting Sedna degrees will bring mental clarity for us on our issues, Venus will encourage us to seek out support from those we love, and Mars will allow us to feel any anger we may have, and then let it go.

Jupiter: A friend, relative or acquaintance may share their own stories with us, and it may be our turn to offer guidance to someone who has had some of the same experiences we did. Jupiter contacts Sedna: Scorpio: October 4-13, 2006, opposite Sedna. Sagittarius: March 15-April 28, 2007, October 29-November 7, 2007; Inconjunct. Capricorn: March 23-April 9, 2008; June 9-June 27, 2008; November 15-25 2008, Trine.

Saturn: We may decide we need to get extra help to clarify and deal with past issues of abuse, and decide to look into counseling, or enter a group or 12 step program for additional support. Saturn contacts Sedna: Leo: September 10-27, 2006; Feb. 19-March 19, 2007; May 21-June 17, 2007, Square. Virgo: November 5-December 2, 2008, Trine.

Uranus: During Uranus’ contact to Sedna, which occurs on the dates listed below, we may explore alternative methods of healing, as in Reiki or aromatherapy. Pisces: March 16-April 21, 2008; September 5-November 2, 2008; December 23-31, 2008, Sextile.

Neptune: Neptune aspecting Sedna can give us a sense of being flooded or overwhelmed with vague feelings of regret and loss, and we might start to unconsciously relive our painful experiences. Soothing ourselves with long walks by the sea, journaling, and calling on help from family, friends, and counselors could be in order, if needed. Neptune contacts Sedna: Aquarius: March 28-July 20, 2006; January 27-March 22, 2007; August 1, 2007- January 22, 2008. Square to Sedna.

Pluto: Not applicable, doesn’t connect with Sedna until 2017
http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/1185

my Sedna is conj Chiron and Mercury

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posted December 04, 2008 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cool

thanks for sharing,Peri

how does your Mercury-Chiron-Sedna stellium work in your life?

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posted December 12, 2008 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Glaucus, I have Sedna at 5* 33' Taurus. It trines my Ascendant by less than one degree (6* 9' Virgo). It also quincunxes my North Node by 3* (NN is 2* Libra 2nd house). It widely trines my Mars by 5* (but since it moves so slowly I don't think that aspect counts). It is also semi-sextile my Part of Marriage by 3* (8* Aries), semi-sextile my South Node by 3* (2* Aries), square my Juno 3* (8* Aquarius), and square my Vertex by 3* (2* Aquarius).

I guess the most prominent aspect is the trine to my Asc by less than one degree. How would you interpret that aspect?

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚
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posted December 12, 2008 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sedna trine Ascendant would seem to indicate "out of this world"ness in harmony with your persona,self....with Sedna sextile Descendant, you have an opportunity to be involved with "out of this world" type partners.

A really nice aspect to have.

it seems like you could be very spiritual,ethereal. People could see you that way. Your partners could be that way.


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posted December 12, 2008 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am really prone to depressions

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posted December 12, 2008 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi-
I was thinking about sedna last night after reading some of your posts.

COuld someone illuminate-what would be the significance of sedna square sun (almost exact) dw in synastry? Would they be out to abuse each other?

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posted December 12, 2008 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my chart to better see the aspects I mentioned.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚
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posted December 12, 2008 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm on my way to work so i'll expound on your reply in about an hour.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚
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mine is in the 12th house at 0 degrees taurus

trining merc and venus square mc
the sabian is -

0-1 deg Taurus

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posted December 12, 2008 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"COuld someone illuminate-what would be the significance of sedna square sun (almost exact) dw in synastry? Would they be out to abuse each other?"

That aspect basically means self expression,ego are in conflict with "out of this world"ness

It's very possible. Victimization,martyrdom are possible with that configuration. There could be some remoteness,coldness too.

but it can also be good for spirituality,compassion,devotion in the relationship if they put in a lot of effort to do that.

squares aren't necessarily bad. they are about friction. they are aspects that involve action. Squares correlate with the cardinal(action,initiation) signs Cancer (waxing square) and Capricorn(waning square).


it's up to the couple to go for the positive stuff and refrain from the negative stuff


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posted December 12, 2008 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri,

I am sorry about your depressions.

but with Mercury-Chiron-Sedna conjunction, it seemed that it would be good for spiritual,holistic thinking. It could be good for intelligence

Albert Einstein has a Mercury-Saturn-Sedna conjunction.
He had Mercury conjunct Sedna with 17 minutes of arc! His thinking was certainly "out of this world" , and when people think intelligence, he is the first one that comes to mind. His thought processes were more rightbrained typed...like his theory of relativity based on imagining himself riding a beam of light. He said that imagination is more important than knowledge. He seemed capable of mystical thinking. His Mercury conjunct Saturn did show he was capable of linear types of thinking too.

he had a history of speech delays,problems......some wonder if he had Dyslexia,ADD,or high functioning autism. He also had a son that was schizophrenic too.


there are definitely some positives to your Mercury-Chiron-Sedna. I would say that can be good for astrology too. I believe that my Mercury-Saturn-Uranus-Sedna 11th harmonic isosceles trapezoid can be good for Astrology. I think that it has more to do with my visualizing,intuitive type of mind than my Mercury-Neptune stuff. I also have a history of speech delays,problems connected to my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia with being too rightbrained for my own good...so metaphysical thinking that manifests as problems on the physical plane.

Raymond


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posted December 12, 2008 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your posts glaucus-as always they are truly amazing.

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posted December 12, 2008 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm... Your description that you gave me fits MUCH better than Magi's. I have not an evil cell in my body. I am not in anyway a mean person.

I do consider myself to be a very spiritual person but not by normal standards. I don't attend church and I do not subscribe to any religion but I do feel I have a personal relationship with creator (whatever it may be). Now, I'm not talking about the "voices in my head, I see dead people" type of relationship. I'm talking about I meditate a lot and try to be one with the universe.

When I was younger in my teens, I always considered myself a free thinker and seeker of knowledge and truth. I used to always talk about the oneness of everything and that how GOD was the all.

I really do try (it comes naturally for me, I guess I'm lucky in that sense) to come off to people as a good and honest person. Trustworthy as well (all sorts of people are always telling me their most private issues that they themselves say they wouldn't tell anyone else; I dunno what it is but a lot of people confide in me).

I am in no way trying to pat myself on the back when I say this but I have always considered myself to be different, not in a Uranian way, but, I always held myself to a high standard morally. I just can't bring myself to do things that a lot of people do with ease and without remorse or conscience. I believe I am a good person and humanist.

Now ethereal? I think so sometimes, definitely different in a good way.

Even my description above isn't explaining completely how I feel and what I mean; I guess you could say that I can't put my finger on it.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚
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posted December 12, 2008 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I absolutely do want to be with a woman whom I would consider is "out of this world" in a good way. When my personal situation is finally done, I guess that would be the type of women I would consider.

Hey Glaucus, when you have time, could you interpret my natal chart for me please? I mean, of course at your own convenience. I'd really appreciate it.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚
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Peri
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posted December 12, 2008 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks Raymond, i do have problems sometimes, there are periods of time when i cannot express myself clearly, i just cannot find the right words...i can speak a couple of foreign languges but during such periods i can hardly speak my native language, i mix grammar structures, words, things like that

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posted December 12, 2008 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, in my quest for knowledge, I decided to become a Freemason. While Freemasonry is not a religion, it offers opportunity for immense positive spiritual and moral growth.

I just looked where the Asteroid "Hiramperkins" (the closest name asteroid to Hiram Abiff) was at in my natal chart and it sits at 5* 33' Cancer in my 10th house. This means that Sedna sextiles my Hiram (10029) exact down to the minute. So Hiram also sextiles my Asc less than 1*.

I am a 32* Mason and I absolutely LOVE what Freemasonry is supposed to represent. I have big dreams of bringing honor to the fraternity and tightening it up. I want to do great things for my community through Freemasonry.

Could Sedna exactly sextiling my Hiram and trining my Ascendant be resposible for these wants and feelings? My Hiram being in Cancer, the sign of nurture, makes me want to nurture my Lodge and Masonry as a whole?

I am 3rd in charge (my position is Junior Warden) of my Lodge and a the new brethren look up to me and see me as being "100% Masonic" (it means a person is not in it for the titles and is in it to better the craft as a whole and seek knowledge) which is a wonderful compliment. They look to me to set the example for them and to help get the lodge back in good order. I will be head of my lodge in 3 years or less. When I am there, I want to make changes for the better.
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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚
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posted December 12, 2008 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GotGemini,
you can contact me on yahoo messenger
astynaz is my ID. I could check out your chart.

I chuckled after reading
"I guess you could say that I can't put my finger on it."

As in being hard to pin down.


In the Sedna myth,

Sedna was thrown overboard by her father. Sedna clung onto the edge of the boat. Her father chopped off all her fingers,and so she sank into the depths of the Arctic Ocean, and she ended up being a sea goddess.


"The finger in the Wendy's chili" scandal that made national headlines occured around the time of the discovery of Sedna too.

but yeah...Sedna can be about something so strange,hard to pin down that you can't put your finger on it.

wherever Sedna is placed and what planet/point is aspected could be where and what involves being strange,hard to pin down that you can't put your finger on it.


most aquatic creatures don't have fingers, especially fish.

Isn't it funny that the word, "fishy" is a synonym for strange?

hahahahahaha

Raymond

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posted December 12, 2008 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think psychologically Sedna represents the Victim Archetype, spiritually it represents the Skeleton Woman Archetype, the story written by Clarissa Pinkola Estes describes its nature perfectly

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posted December 12, 2008 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri,

I agree with you.

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posted December 12, 2008 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Glaucus! I'll be in contact with you in the next few days (most likely Sunday Nite). I'm at work now and typing all this from my phone which means I don't have access to Yahoo messenger yet.

But hey, I made an Edit to my last reply. Can you check it out please? And I forgot to ask what is the Sabian Symbol for my Asc (6* Virgo), Sedna (5* Taurus), and my Hiram (5* Cancer)?

EDIT: My Hiram is 5* 23" Cancer, not 5* 33" Cancer like I said earlier. So it is ten minutes from my Sedna.


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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
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Gemini Mercury 25˚
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posted December 12, 2008 03:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting information Glaucus and Peri.

Sedna is conjunct my moon 0º
opp sat 1º
sq venus 1º

And some things ring true to me.

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