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izodesmozina
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posted July 01, 2007 03:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Invitations sent. Anyone else want to join us?

Samsara,
Wise spoken! It did me good, as well, to read your post.

Diandra,
Yup! I love synchronicities!
Haha! You think your personal issue is being a Virgo? Well, you're gonna love this! I don't know if I mentioned, but my North Node is in Gemini and in the 6th house, ruled by Virgo. So my life path is to transform myself from an Aries/Capricorn person into a Gemini/Virgo one. And if I think about it, I've attracted a lot of Geminis and Virgos (especially Virgo risings) in my life, so I can learn to become like them! Haha! I knew there was an explanation for me scrubbing the bathtub with such passion and delight!
Good luck to John on his math exam! I am sure he will pass it successfully!

Taurus,
I am happy things are flowing for you! You deserve it, honey! Gonna go check your draconics hihi!

Moon,
You know we love your aspects with the sexy Virgo! My eyes fell on that tight Osiris-NN conjunction... Sounds wonderful!

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izodesmozina
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posted July 01, 2007 03:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,
Don't lose your hope! This seems to be a very fated relationship (by the way, did you ever thought that maybe one of the reasons people become famous is so that their soul mates find out about them and search for them? Ok, I know it sounds silly from a realistic point of view... but on a soul level, who knows?) and I am sure that if it is meant to happen, you will find a way to meet him! It isn't over yet!
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no, no, no, grown up girls don`t cry over men they only saw on film. lol

LOL! Actually, I don't think it matters whether what you cry for is real or just fiction. You have the same emotions and because movies can become so intense at times, you become a part of them. On a mind level, it doesn't matter - same chemicals are released . I cry at movies and I just love this side of myself! But I try to do that while I'm alone [Cappy Moon psychology - never cry in public].
Gonna go download "Quills" now. Dunno how I could have missed it! Yup, Scorp intensity! Breath taking indeed! Taurus rising, hmm? No wonder I like Joaquin (aside from being a fascinating Scorpio), my Venus is in Taurus and I seem to be very fond of this people. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus! You have so much interplay with him! So many double-whammies!

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GeminiLover75
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posted July 01, 2007 03:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm ok... me and my bf:

My Isis square his Sun
My Isis trine his Jupiter
My Isis sextile his Saturn
My Isis trine his Neptune
My Isis opposite his Pluto
My Isis semi-sextile his ascendant

His Isis opposite my Pluto

My Osiris square his Venus
My Osiris square his Saturn
My Osiris square his Jupiter
My Osiris square his Neptune
My Osiris also makes some aspects to his moon and Uranus but I don't understand the symbols.

His Osiris trine my Uranus
His Osiris sextile my Chiron and ascendant
His Osiris semisquare my Saturn

Ehhh... that's a LOT of hard aspects.

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Diandra23
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posted July 01, 2007 09:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HI girls im back

GeminiLover

indeed you have a lot goin on there;but i think hard aspects are better to have,than to have none,regardint the Isis-osiris

Izo,
i was just kiddin about that Virgo Issue you know.Yesterday i picked up again my book of Linda about the signs and their caractheristics,well i dindnt red it a long time and i just laughed right over the all descriptions:it fits me so well!!
She says that Virgo women can look very fragile and a little dolls with beautiful eyes ( well this of the eye i agree,i love mine) but they can also fight for waht they truly believe and go up to the mounstains if she beleives her true love is there - that was certainly me hihihi
I red also about the Libras ( it fits my Jonnhy and me also;and about his Cnacer Asc...it was the 1st time ive red it and i finally got it his lunar moodes! - OMG - its totally him and his need for affections,love and sayin a thoussand times I LOVE YOU for a day hihihihih )

So,apart of the insecurity,the excessive demanding of myself and others, i do LOVE the VIRGO´s personality - LINDA ws the only one who figured it out about us really - and all the other i can see it

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Diandra23
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posted July 01, 2007 09:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,
so arent you gonna see your guy? well, it seems that your dreams might have had some significance after all.."its a matter of time" -
Everything will workd as it should be :happily

Taurus,
so happy that everythin is goin well with your guy!
Patience is gonna be my virtue frim this moment on!

Yesterday at night i sent him an sms a romantic one - it was 1am but i thought he would be sleeping like a rock - but he woke up with it and said he was having imsonias hihihi - im so bad!!! Then i got with imsonias too and then i dreamt we were in vacation hihihih

Moon,
even if its wide, i believe sometimes we feel the aspects too!that karma and vertex and NN with the asteroids are really great!

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Diandra23
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posted July 02, 2007 06:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

I´ve red those lexigrams you´ve found between your guy and your names.
Tell me how can I do find of my and my bf´s names?

Those lexigrams are really beautiful and did you thought already closely on them?
"Meet me in London" - "sned a note to man´s door" - "take me in a storm" - "meet me in dreams" and so on!

Have you already seen that youre destined to go and see him in London?And to trust and have no fear,cause "time is near"
Look,that could also mean to you leave a note in his dress-room door so to you and him see each other eye to eye

This is so so profound! - study closely that lexigrams and you´ll find the right answer to what to do relating to him

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Diandra23
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posted July 02, 2007 07:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for those who asked about why is this all goin on with isis-osiris,this is a quote from IQ:

"Isis and Osiris are the most significant personalities in the Egyptian-Templar-Freemasonic Occult Tradition.
My understanding so far:
Osiris represenst the divine masculine elements of the Higher Self which on desiring to expereince physical reality manifests as 14 soul personalities. To integrate the experiences, Isis (Divine Feminine elements) also incarnates and everytime an Osirian Soul Personality mates with his Isis, that Soul Personality achieves unity with his Higher Self.
When all 14 find their mates, the Higher Self and the physical avatar attain conscious awareness across physical and spiritual planes. Head in Heavens and Feet on the ground.

Those who have not mastered their basic chart will not gain any benefit from knowing the positions of Asteroids Isis and Osiris (which are very subtle in their effect but will point to the best soul mate in every incarnation).

Also, no one will be able to scan a series of charts and check if these asteroids match.

If one loves with the full heart and is ready to sacrifice for the sake of the beloved, such a person will attract someone whose Isis, Osiris and possibly Karma miraculously intertwine with other personal planets and Ascendant."

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GeminiLover75
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posted July 02, 2007 07:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting... so, what does it mean that my Isis makes more harmonious aspects to his planets, and my Osiris makes hard aspects?

And the fact that my Isis and Osiris make more aspects to his planets, than his Isis and Osiris make to mine?

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Diandra23
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posted July 02, 2007 07:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GeminiLover,

i dont know exactly why maybe IQ can tell you that.
but being a hard aspect indicates it is needed for him to make more efforts torwars the relationship itself maybe?
What are the placements and aspects?IF there are DW´s it doenst matter if its hard or not ,its very good when they exist meaning that the 2 persons would feel the same intensity/effect of that specific asteroid.

look for the tightest ones within 1ºorb specially

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izodesmozina
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posted July 02, 2007 08:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just my 2 cents: maybe it means you can integrate your "eternal feminine" side with him, but you have a hard time picturing him as your ideal "eternal masculine" partner. The fact that your Isis&Osiris make more aspects with his planets than his Isis&Osiris with your planets could mean that your partner triggered in you the need to reach the soul mate state, but it might be that he would have some difficulties following you on that. Don't worry, as Diandra put it some time ago, men are not as aware of these vibrations as we are. We're all struggling with that .

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Diandra23
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posted July 02, 2007 08:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup!
They might feel it but they just dont pay the attention that we pay

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izodesmozina
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posted July 02, 2007 09:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah... they're more laid back

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Diandra23
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posted July 02, 2007 10:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Izo,
one of these days ive tried to put my Jonnhy more at ease with these kind of things and so i told him a dream i had that night where he was with me in an hospital and he was talking with some friends of mine.One of them asked him if he knew he was my SM in all lifes
(this was exactl my dream,among other things) and then i said my dream end up with him sayin he was still thinkin what to say

I always tells him all my dreams cause i vivid remember them,mostly because he enters most of them.
His only answer to my dream was "UHAU What a cool dream" -
OH God ...this slightly shows how they handle these things...NOT!

iM not gonna give up though

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izodesmozina
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posted July 02, 2007 10:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha! Yeah, I feel your pain! However, you should be lucky that he didn't totally freak out about you studying astrology and being into all this metaphysical stuff. Few guys can handle it. "Syn... what? Compatibility? What do we need that for? You know I love ya... come here and I'll show ya!"
Men...

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Diandra23
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posted July 02, 2007 10:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Izo youre just too funny :P

Well yeah,at first when i told him some time ago i liked astrology he was like" OK...so how am I? hihihih - this was when i barely "knew" him - so i took some of Linda´s sun signs quotes and he just "Hmm..in fact nobody till now told me so much "me" than you right now and he got interested!
Now,as his secret dream is to be an astronaut and find another planets ( hes jsut so cute) im always kiddin woth him and say he likes space and constelations, i like to interpret how they influences us

He use to say to me that if we can explain feelings of love,than it isnt Love...i know what he means though..so I stopped quite a bit of tryin that he believes in these astrological SM clues.

Deep inside he knows,even if he doesnt want to counsciously say he believes

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darkdreamer
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posted July 02, 2007 02:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi girls,

sorry that I became so silent over the last day(s), but I`m with my brother, so I cannot use the computer as freely as I would like to.
However, I`m really touched by your words of comfort. They actually helped a LOT.
And I think I`m gonna go anyway. I just can`t stay at home. I can feel this is just where I`m supposed to be next week, in London. If I`m not gonna have an even greater anxiety attack before, which makes me turn away and run away again, then I will go. I don`t understand this. I`m such a coward, and yes I`m scared for so many reasons, the terrorist`s threats, the journey UNDERsea, the foreign language, seeing HIM. And yet, the only reason I can think of that lets me find the courage to actually go is seeing HIM.
you know I saw that video where Vanessa Paradis talke about her love to Johnny, and she said, that love makes you lose your fear and do things you wouldn`t have thought possible.
Well, I haven`t lost my fear, it`s big and frightening as ever, but for the first time in my life I have the feeling I can fight this fear. There`s something greater than this fear. This alone makes me aware of how much I`ve already changed. So, as things are now (if I`m not gonna change my mind again and the fear keeps the upper hand), then I shall be on my way on saturday.

I know that`s not astrologically related, but I wanted to let you know before my brother comes back.

DD

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Diandra23
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posted July 02, 2007 03:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG
yOU GO DD

we´re here to support you!
Yes its true that Love makes us overcome our fears.i faced mine when it was time and it werent so tiny - i did not "loose" the fear in the time,i was terrified but somehow my heart just kept me smiling all along with the fear you know its odd but its in that strange mixed feelings that we find what LOVE is.
Love is EVERYTHING - it has all the extremes and its worth it.

Look,think of your lexigrams it would give you courage in the moment you´ll need.

I have all the confidence youre doin the right thing.
Hope your brother stays in front of the tv for a while hihihi

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GeminiLover75
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posted July 02, 2007 11:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you said makes sense, Diandra and Izo... he was definitely having some difficulties over the soul mate issue a while ago, too. I've NEVER brought it up or anything, I wouldn't dare. I know that he knows it though. He just won't admit it. We have an Isis opposite Pluto double-whammy... yikes!

btw, the orbs aren't particularly tight. And I just noticed that my Karma is in my 7th house... at 5 degrees. Hmm.

Also, my Karma semisextile his Venus.
His Karma trine my Jupiter, sextile my Pluto and square my Sun. It also aspects my moon and Pluto, but again I don't understand the symbols except that the moon aspect is hard and the Pluto aspect is harmonious.

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Venus De Milo
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posted July 03, 2007 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Samsara,

Thanks for taking the time to respond. Oh, I do feel compassion for him, because I know he's clearly screwed up and on the flip side, I know how capable he is of love and what a lovely, amazing human being he is. He has strength, compassion, humility... he's so gentle and tender when he lets his guard down. He's perfect. I know it's partly due to his parents divorce and his mother and sister are very dominating, domineering types. His mother is also a 1st decan Aquarian like me and our Suns sit on his IC (actually, my Sun and Mars are on his IC and my Jupiter is on his MC!). His sister is an Aries. He's VERY close to his mother and after her divorce, she married quite wealthy and she spoils him to bits... and you are absolutely right, there are things I know that are lurking in his psyche that I do not know about and will probably never know about... I could always sense when I was shut out, when the emotional fortress was put back up and I always know how he feels about me... my Neptune falls in his 12th house and this is what I attribute to the keen psychic connection I feel between us and the dreams I have about him that always seem to come true... they are so VIVID... like we are really there (and maybe we are? who is to say?) and somehow they either turn out to happen exactly like the dream, or the dream is somehow uncannily prophetic in another way.

And I've always been given signs from the universe about him. I must sound crazy now, even for Lindaland, haha... but it's true!

I have had to turn away and cut my losses with him, because I could not go through another rejection. I tried and tried and tried to be open and understanding and if you know me in person, you know you can say anything to me... all my friends and lovers have always said that about me... that they can tell me anything and I will not judge them. You can't keep beating your head against a wall. I had to cut my losses with him and I am so vulnerable to him,. which is why we cannot even be friends or have lunch or anything. I can't do it. I just can't.

But I do wish him well. And that's a big thing for me, because I was so hurt and I couldn't understand why he did what he did, that I couldn't even wish him well for a long time. That killed me too. I don't like being a bitter, hateful person. I'm so glad to be able to wish that all his dreams come true again... with someone else.

thanks so much for your input, you are very, very insightful indeed

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izodesmozina
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posted July 03, 2007 03:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my!

I see I have made a terrible mistake! I have confused Venus de Milo with Venus de India (it was the other Venus who had the NN-Valentine conjunction in the composite). I am so, so, so sorry and embarrassed!
Venus, please accept my apology! It won't happen again.

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izodesmozina
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posted July 03, 2007 04:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

I know you're scared. It is natural. Many things can go wrong. But... what do you have to lose?

-the terrorist`s threats: How about the people living [i]in[/] London? It is going to be alright, you'll see. Nobody is gonna touch you, because you have a mission to fulfill
-the journey UNDERsea: nothing that deep breathing wouldn't help . It won't last forever and I am sure once you get used to it, it is going to be a lovely ride!
-the foreign language: what? English? Your English is sehr gut!! Have confidence in yourself!
-seeing HIM: Ok, now this is truly the scary part . But it doesn't have to be. You really have nothing to lose. If you don't see him, things are exactly like before and you took a nice trip to London. If you do see him... let fate say its word.
The best advice I could give you (or myself if ever in your situation) is: don't go there with expectations. Don't plan. Don't think that he will say this, you'll say that... we do this sometimes and it will only cause disappointment if it doesn't happen. So don't do it. It is safer this way.

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izodesmozina
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posted July 03, 2007 04:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know it is hard to fight your fears. Probably one of the best methods is to not think about what you are doing. Just do it. Too much thinking is bad .

We'll be here keeping out fingers crossed for you and waiting for positive news! You are a very brave girl for doing this and I admire you for following your dream!

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venusdeindia
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posted July 03, 2007 05:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IZO,
if it had been me in venusdemilo's shoes, trust me, a woman goin thru a Pluto transit on her Natal Kali , lets just say,

" Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned "

though u dont hav to say sorry for ur oversight ,

Venusdemilo,
girl u r on the right path, forgiving him and wishing him the best has paved the way for that special someone in ur life to come
trust me i meditated on ur story and wondered how someone so rotten could have so many synastric contacts Draco and Natal !!
Venus , it was a soul test, u cleared it with flying colours.Practice the meditation IQ says for True Love to enter ur life. u have a group of sisters here who wish u the best..

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Venus De India... I sure hope it's paved the way, I would really like to find that person It's sad, because when the Pisces was heavy on my heart, I knew he couldn't be that person... but I also knew I didn't have space in my heart for anyone else as long as he was in it... I also couldn't figure out why the universe sent me this person with all this magic and all this soul mate synastry... why was he sent to me if he was so horrible... and what did that say about me, that I could be soulmates with someone like him?

I realize he's not a horrible person, just misguided, perhaps traumatized... I think h is my soulmate, but for another lifetime. I just wanna focus on forgiveness and letting go so that when we meet again, niether of us have to go through all this angst and heartache. I really believe that in another place and another time, we had something really beautiful together... and somehow it got sullied, and I probably played a big part in that.

I guess it's all part of our soul journey.

Sorry if I sound really airy fairy here, but I really feel this way strongly.

Thanks for all your kind words, Venus, cheers.. I hope I can help all you ladies out someday with something you're also going through

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Diandra23
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GeminiLover,

to understand better the "karma bonds" read all the this thread:IQ wrote many insightful things about it and i know that after you´ll read it,youll understand a little better how karma can bond 2 people and its effects and also its challenges look also NN aspects as well)
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009192.html

DD,
Izo is totally right on that, i believe that apart from the fear,you can really take this trip - the fear will be there but in part i think its because you fear him and not the travelling itself doesnt it? - the terrorists wont do anything to you - just believes everythin will be ok,even better when you´ll lool to him in real life and see really what you feel.Who knows if youre gonna meet face to face and eye to eye? But you will only know that if you are truly there.
Not goin will diminuish you fear,but in the long run you´ll feel "what if.." which is a lot worse than thinkin" I went and i had the courage to face it,face my fears and also my dreams "

VenusdeMilo,
dont be so sad,maybe one day you´ll reunite with him in this life.When he facs his traumas and pushes away whatever makes him harm and traumatized?
But if right now he makes you suffer ( or did) and didnt do anything to change that...maybe one day heçll realise how much he hurted you and apologize.

Youre a wonderful person by wishing him well and not wanting him harm by revenge or hate or anything.
AS Venus said,maybe was a tes, on which you wondefully passed with higher soul and evolved spirit- uncounsciously he made you a better person ( through pain though) but in the long run youll find someone who deserves you and makes you happy like you deserve

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