posted February 16, 2009 06:49 AM              

I will start with Lara-Q-1:
"The fact that Her Persephone also trines his Valentine is a very powerful indicator of true love. Her individual Yin-Yang Pluto-Persephone nature is totally in love with him"
IQ, would it be the same if her persephone squared his valentine (2) and her proserpina conjunct his juno and trined hir osiris/isis please?

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posted February 16, 2009 07:50 AM              

Great thread IQ
Thanks

OK

her draco valentine trine his dr pluto (2) and conjunct his dr juno (1)
her dr valentine is trine exact her juno/karma

his dr valentine conjunct her dr NN (3)
her dr valentine square his dr NN (3)

her dr valentine conjunct his n karma (0)
her dr karma trine his n valentine (1)

her draco prosperpina opposes his draco pluto (0) and sextile his draco juno (1)
her draco pluto trine his natal peresphone (0)
her draco proserpina trine his natal perespina (3)
his draco proserpina opposes her n pluto (2)
his draco PLUTO conjunct her natal JUNO/KARMA (0) and opp her n sun (0) his draco JUNO trine her n JUNO.KARMA (0)

does any of that work please?

posted February 16, 2009 08:13 AM              

IQ,
in the thread about my friend you said we could allow an orb of 4° for conjunction / Opposition betwen Pluto and Persephone / Proserpina, because the ASC ruler has been fulfilled.

Does that go for other "couple-asteroids", too?
For example:
Would an opposition between Isis and Osiris with 4° still be valid (if the ASC rule is fulfilled)?

Also, you wrote that she truely loves him because her Pluto and Proserpina / Persephone aspects his Valentine.
But if his Valentine is triggered, wouldn`t it be HIM who is in love?

posted February 16, 2009 12:07 PM              

Diandra23 - Q-1:

"IQ,did you concluded the importance of the Davidson charts yet?i started that thread awhile ago and seems we have some interesting conections there".

Diandra23 - Q-2:

"aside from my Persephone oposition to his pluto in sinastry,my persephone trines his juno,kikx his proserpine and sextil his Union.My proserpina trine his asc also.
we havea dW on persephone-juno ( square and trine), and persephone - union (sextil and oposition).What do these indicate?"

We also have a valentine-trine persephpone,and persephone opose venus in the composite.

iN DRACO his perseph kikx my karma and my persephone cj his karma.
My Proserpina opose his valentine and his proserpina semisextil my valentine.

Diandra23 - Q-3

"through a chat with DD,by some things i´ve said,DD advised me to look into the Arthurian asteroids.I suspect strongly that we also have shared a Medieval Past life.By looking at the list i posted,would you agree,IQ?"

posted February 16, 2009 02:49 PM              

I will also post composite if need be

Thank you!

btw I did not include Proserpina/Perphone but here are some of the aspects/placements.

His Proserpina at 11'1 Pisces trine my Moon/Pluto 9 Scorpio, conjunct my Valentine 9'3 Pisces and sextile my MC.

His Persephone 29'1 Pisces conjunct my Isis 28'5 Pisces

My Proserpina at 14'3 Libra trine his Mercury (2) conjunct his Isis 12'5 Libra

posted February 16, 2009 03:24 PM              

I believe this to be relevent in the area of soulmates.

My ASC conjunct his MC (0) orb

Lots of good aspects natal but mostly interested in the asteroids. Except one natal placement I think may shed some light.

His Chiron conjunct my Mercury (0)
Since chiron is the teacher and he taught medicine, astronomy, ect... Then Mercury may be important,
looking at my own natal chiron I had asteroid astronomia conjunct I believe (0) orb as well.

The message came to me through his eyes
The flashes of light, energy surge through the body.

my eros conjunct his ASC and his iris
wich is square his psyche that is
conjunct my DC and iris.

Her
DC and iris - his psyche
square
His
AC and iris - her Eros

His eros opp my eros by sign not orb

my union is conjunct his destinn same house and conjunct our Ic / Dc conjunction.

My karma sextile his karma (1)

his chart(My name) conjunct my sun/moon midpoint opp his vertex (0)

My chart(his name) opp my vertex (0)

his cupid and my name
opp
my cupid and his name.

Also, my aura conjunct our ASC/MC conjunction
and his aura conjunct our chiron/ Mercury
conjunction

He came to me in my dreams telling of death and rebirth and one time there
was a strange golden fog. Do you think it maybe was the astral plane?

To add, His natal valentine conjunct my eros. (0) and
his karma trine my valentine conjunct his vertex. (0)

In draconics -

My dr osiri conjunct his natal sun (0)

His dr Isis conjunct my natal moon (2)

His dr Valentine conjunct my dr valentine (1)

My dr psyche opp his natal eros
His dr eros opp my natal psyche

Maybe that is the reason I heard my angel refer to him as brother, only a guess.

posted February 16, 2009 03:32 PM              

IQ,

in your answer to Diandra you referred to the "soulmate-links" in synastry.
Are those still the same as you posted on your site? Or haver there been modifications according to the new research, including for example Pluto - Proserpina / Persephone?

posted February 16, 2009 05:29 PM            

The guy I'm seeing now, has a highly afflicted venus in gemini and this venus is triggered possitively by nearly all my personal planets..
Since we interpret synastry by looking the natal charts first, then what does it mean?
Is it bad??

here is his natal VENUS aspects:

venus squ. mars

venus squ. saturn

venus oppose neptune

venus trine pluto

venus biquintile jup.

venus quincunx uranus

venus sextile NN

In our synastry:

My moon oppose his venus

my mars trine his venus

my venus trine his venus

my sun trine his venus

my karma conjunct his venus

In my natal I have a well aspected saggie moon..sextiles my libra stellium oppose my eros and karma conjunction.
but in synastry it is badly aspected by his planets.
His saturn mars conjunction squares my moon.

Also his moon conjunct my pluto my venus conjunct his pluto..

We both have saturn square venus natally and in our composite we have venus conjunct saturn..

What should I expect from this relationship??

Asteroid wise I think the most important one is His Eros oppose my psyche..

I will give our birthdates..
I realised it is a complicated question..

20.10.1974 2.25 am ankara
21.june 1980 11.00am izmir

Sorry if It is very much for you and if you dont have time then no problem

posted February 17, 2009 01:02 AM              

GCcarrier-Q-2
Can AC and DC be considered part of a planetary configuration in any kind of chart?

GCcarrier-Q-3
Are planetary configurations such as Grand Trine and Grand Sextile as powerful as Double Whammy with at most 2-degree orb?

posted February 17, 2009 03:29 AM              

Hi IQ- so lovely of you to do this

This is a carry over question form the topic
"juno trine juno exact" Thread.
I was wondering the following:

I have my JUNO 27'08 aqua square his:

KARMA 28'05 scorp
Jupiter 25'35 taurus
Asc/Dsc 27'20 scorp/taurus.
in natal, but his JUNO is not in direct aspect to my jupiter or KARMA.

My draco to his natal has:
my dr JUNO 25'58 sco:

opp his natal jupiter 25'35 tau
conjunct his natal KARMA 28'05 (2 deg orb?)
conjunct his natal Asc 27'20 scorp

His JUNO does not aspect my jup/KARMA tightly at all -but my saturn conjuncts his JUNO natally within a degree.

Would this take away from the significance of the configuration, since his JUNO is not activated/aspected?

Q-2

Would you count N.Node as a point in an aspect configuration?

Q-3

Someone who has PROSERPINE and PSYCHE conjunct ASC, PERSEPHONE conjunct sun natally, would it be valid to presume they would instinctively seek/attract Plutonic/Hadean individuals/energies?

posted February 17, 2009 04:00 AM              

I always noticed my Osiris conj. his N.N (4) but his Isis on my S.N? and is Osiris on my DC aswell. Possibly bringing the past into the present?

posted February 17, 2009 10:39 AM            

What would be significance of:

Draconics:

his psyche trine her ascendant (exact)
his valentine opposite her ascendant (3deg)

her ascendant square his karma (exact)
her ascendant square his north node (almost exact)
her north node trine his mars.

his juno trine her union (exact)
his karma conjunct her venus (3deg)
his juno conjunct her ascend (3 degree)
his juno trine her amor (exact)
(would u not count aspects of 3 degrees at all?)

posted February 17, 2009 01:47 PM              

Looked at what you told me: Anubis,kaali, siva

His anubis conjunct my pluto (2)
his anubis opp my sun(0)aries/pisces cusp
his anubis sextile my siva (0)
my anubis opp his pluto (0)
his Kaali trine my moon (2)
My kaali conjunct his sun (2)
his kaali semi-sextile my kaali (2)

Note: aries/ pisces cusp - death and
rebirth

Also - his arabic point of truth and
suicide conjunct my NN (o) trine my sun.

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also, ???
what do you think of this ? (diffrent person)

his name ( my chart) trine his valentine ( his chart) (0)
My name ( his chart ) opp my valentine ( my chart) (0)

His venus (0) and valentine (3) opp my
vertex, conjunct my sun (5)
my valentine square his vertex (0)

venus - sun interchange

his ven opp my vertex (0)
my moon conjunct his vertex (0)

his siva opp my kaali (5)
my siva conjunct his kaali (5)

and my persephone conjunct his NN (0)and pluto(2)opp his persephone(1)and karma(1)

My dr juno conjunct his natal NN (0)
my dr venus conjunct his natal pluto (0)

his eros conjunct my union (0) opp my juno
(0)
his dr valentine conjunct my union opp my
juno (0)

And don't know what to make of this
his juno trine my name (jenny)(0) his chart trine neptune (0) grand trine.

My name conjunct his Ic and cupid (2)(jennifer)
His name conjunct my Ic (1)

7th harmonic my name ( jennifer) conjunct juno (0) on his natal neptune (0)

and in 5th harmonic his cupid conjunct my natal sun (0)

my first last name combo asteroid on his eighth house cusp (0)
trine jennifer(3)wich is conjunct IC

my moon trine his sun, moon, merc and saturn ( grand trine)

his mars trine my NN and jupiter
(grand trine)

posted February 18, 2009 04:33 AM              

His VALENTINE:
conjuncts my sun (1°)
semi-sextiles my venus(0°)
squares my Jupiter (2°)

My VALENTINE:
opposes his Moon and Mercury (1°)
trines his eros (0°)

There are no KARMA/N.N/ASC link ups with VALENTINE, so am not sure if these would count as potent, or does there need to be a link to the ASC in order to utilize it's full potential?

Q-5
(I'm being greedy here- I do apologize-disregard if it's asking too many questions

We also have his Pluto exactly conjunct my KAALI, and oppose my Venus.
And my Venus squares his Venus/KAALI conjunction.

(natally I have an exact to a minute KAALI-Venus opposition)

- Would the interpretation of this point me in the direction of Tantric sexuality?

posted February 18, 2009 05:43 AM              

Diandra23-Q-5.
IQ.how much do you take into account name asteroids?DD and I and others have been seriously interested in this,cause in our charts-1st meeting,relationship chart,sinastry,Davidson-NAME ASTEROIDS have appeared strongly and making exact important aspects.

posted February 18, 2009 05:59 AM            

koiflower Q1. Do you think my Sun, Isis, Pandora and Sphinx all together within 2* 8', would give an over-confidence, but threatening persona to people new to middle management?

I am aware of other factors in a chart, but this 'stellium' idea jumped out for me tonight.

posted February 18, 2009 06:10 AM            

Q 2 ~ Our other aspects involving Valentine do not include Karma, Juno or NN:

My Valentine:
squares his ASC (0)
opposes his Moon (1)
trines his Saturn (4)
trines his POF (2)
squares his Psyche (2)
squares his Ceres (2)
squares his Kaali (0)
squares his Persephone (0)

His Valentine:
squares my ASC (0)
trines my Sun (0)
trines my Venus (1)
quincunxes my Saturn (0)
trines my Uranus (0)
biQuintiles my Pluto (0)
trines my Vertex (3)
conjuncts my Lust (3)
quintiles my Union (0)
quintiles my Proserpina (0)
trines my Nessus (0)

Since my Valentine clearly has more squares
aspecting his planets/asteroids, would that mean that I am more challenged to love him over time?

Q 3 ~ In your observations, how important is Valentine aspecting NN or Juno or Karma compared to other asteroid indicators? For example, between us we have many strong and (mostly) close Isis/Osiris aspects which seem very significant to me. For example:

My name asteroid in his chart conjuncts his Isis (0)
His name asteroid in my chart trines his Isis (0)
His Isis conjuncts my Osiris (1)
His Karma trines my Osiris (0)
My Karma trines his Isis (1)
My Isis trines his NN (4)
His Osiris opposes my NN (5)
My NN quincunx his Isis (1)
His NN quincunx my Osiris (1)
His Isis trines my Pluto (0)
My Osiris trines his Pluto (1)

Could it be that our personal themes are about Isis/Osiris as opposed to a focus on Valentine? I ask because I was *previously* in a relationship where we had a Valentine/NN double whammy in our first meeting chart. Also in our synastry there were DW's with Valentine/NN, Valentine/Moon, Valentine/Karma, Valentine/Juno and, widely, between Valentine/Psyche...and I was rejected and utterly devastated by that relationship for a long time. In my current relationship, I am actually quite calm and happy thus far so I am curious what your experience has been in terms of Valentine being the ultimate indicator.

Thanks so much in advance for your response

posted February 18, 2009 06:25 AM            

My question is about Draconic to Natal - It's not about synastry, asteroids or soulmates so I hope its OK to post here. Could you tell me what the following means?

I have only posted conjunctions under a 2 deg orb.

My Draconic Vertex conjunct my natal Neptune
My Draconic North node conjunct natal IC
My Draconic DC conjunct natal North node
My Draconic Ascendant conjunct Natal Chiron
My Draconic Chiron conjunct Natal MC
My Draconic Sun conjunct my DC
My Draconic Venus conjunct my natal Vertex