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Ami Anne
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posted June 11, 2011 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
430 Hybris

SCIENCE

Asteroid 430 Hybris is a main belt asteroid discovered on December 18th, 1897 by Auguste Charlois. Taking just under four years to orbit the Sun, she spends around four to five months in each sign, orbit and retrograde dependent.

MYTHOLOGY

In Ancient Greece, Hybris was a pretty nasty Goddess, symbolising insolence, violence, outlandish behaviour and reckless pride. I really loved this excerpt from Hesoid’s Work and Days:-
“Listen to right and do not foster Violence (Hybris); for Hybris is bad for a poor man. Even the prosperous cannot easily bear its burden, but is weighed down under it when he has fallen into delusion. The better path is to go by on the other side towards justice; for Dike (Justice) beats Hybris (Outrage) when she comes at length to the end of the race. But only when he has suffered does the fool learns this.”

ASTROLOGY

To locate asteroid 430 Hybris in your natal chart, head over to serrenu.com or astro.com and input your birthdata, as Hybris is already a listed entity. Keep your orbs tight, within 1-2 degrees and your aspects major – conjunction, square, opposition, trine and quincunx.

Now Hybris is a very blatant influence and in your natal chart, indicates an area of negative ‘potential’, but do keep in mind please that nothing is absolute. Everyone has Hybris somewhere, and subsequent aspects mean little as everything is based on individual life evolution.

Hybris in the natal chart indicates where one can toss their sensible nature to the side and act completely out of character. It is an area where one could locate extreme bad manners, violent outbursts or tendencies, extreme arrogance, and ridiculous levels of pride. On a minor scale, it can indicate a stubborn stance regards personal opinion and also a hidden side that can be quite reckless. Rulership and house position will be most telling regards the actual emotive connection to Hybris – with aspects to Hybris indicating possible means of physical expression of the influence.

In transit, Hybris is a tinder box of potential, with not all of it being a negative. Obviously, the extreme potential is there and should be considered in your chart as a time to be aware and take more personal care. But on the positive side, it can be the arrogant snap needed to wake you up and get you motivated to move out of a demeaning situation.
On research, this asteroid is not overly active in the charts of serial killers but it is quite commonly found in the charts of cult leaders. Jim Jones experienced Hybris contra parallel Saturn, Luc Jouret square Pluto, David Koresh experienced Hybris conjunct Charybdis, oppose Pallas.

It was this horrendous news story that encouraged me to explore and find this asteroid in aspect. So I looked up a local tragedy. Martin Bryant, responsible for the shocking Port Arthur Massacre in 1986experiences no aspects to natal Hybris. However, on the date of the massacre, Hades oppose Hybris (he also experiences Sun conjunct Hades in the natal), Ceres was oppose the Hades/Hybris conjunction. Also, Astraea (decision/one way path/judgement) was conjunct Hybris, and sadly, the North Node was conjunct his natal Mars. There were numerous other asteroids, mostly retrograde, that can explore the depths of this individuals troubled soul but……

Possible Keywords:- violence, possible violence, violent tendencies, out of character behaviour, excessive pride, extreme arrogance, gaining enough pride to move on from a damaging situation, finally defending self, unable to change path due to personal belief, stubborn attitudes.


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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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Ami Anne
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posted June 11, 2011 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this conjunct Mercury.I guess I can't make fun of the Eris people

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 11, 2011 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This one seems to be when fighting strength seems to come out of no where to defend oneself or someone/something else.
I can relate to this--totally lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 11, 2011 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hybris could be the weak mouse who goes along quietly until one day she explodes with the fury of God

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posted June 11, 2011 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mentioned I was checking the current transits in another thread AND hybris is right on my Jupiter at 4 degrees Aquarius LOL and there was you asking what I knew of it...and I now have to look for info on it whilst it's travelling through my 3rd house (acquiring info and learning)

Natally it sits only 1 degree away from my IC

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Ami Anne
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posted June 11, 2011 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh Quinn
I am not good with transits lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 11, 2011 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go - more myth, I kind of liked this bit

Aesop, Fables 533 (from Babrius 70) (trans. Gibbs) (Greek fable C6th B.C.) :
"The gods were getting married. One after another, they all got hitched, until finally it was time for Polemos (War) to draw his lot, the last of the bachelors. Hybris (Reckless Pride) became his wife, since she was the only one left without a husband. They say Polemos loved Hybris with such abandon that he still follows her everywhere she goes. So do not ever allow Hybris to come upon the nations or cities of mankind, smiling fondly at the crowds, because Polemos (War) will be coming right behind her."
http://www.theoi.com/Daimon/Hybris.html There's a lot more on the link at theoi

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posted June 11, 2011 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm Thank you Quinn

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posted June 11, 2011 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should've explained the bit I liked was that her husband loved her with abandon and followed her everywhere...lol the old romantic

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posted June 11, 2011 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which is which Quinn? I am getting so confused

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 11, 2011 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hybris' husband is the one who followed her everywhere.

It was hylonome who threw herself on top of cyllarus' sword when he died.

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posted June 13, 2011 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for samsaoule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my gosh! I have an exact conjunction Hybris-Sun in my birth chart! (1' orb).
Does it mean I am a biatch bringing war everywhere I go?
Should I kill myself??

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posted June 13, 2011 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol@samsaoule

No you don't get out of life that easy

If we look at the greek gods as mythical representations of human character flaws we can see that polemos follows hybris everywhere....if we translate this into practical terms we get

war always follows reckless pride


having a strong hybris just means that you need to be more aware of your own pride or that your pride may cause fights.

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posted June 13, 2011 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hybris conjunct Nemesis or Pandora would be dangerous to one who has Mercury square Moon.

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posted June 13, 2011 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for samsaoule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
Lol@samsaoule

No you don't get out of life that easy

If we look at the greek gods as mythical representations of human character flaws we can see that polemos follows hybris everywhere....if we translate this into practical terms we get

war always follows reckless pride


having a strong hybris just means that you need to be more aware of your own pride or that your pride may cause fights.


Thanks for reassuring me. I will try to be careful

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posted June 13, 2011 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But why would it be dangerous IQ?

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Mercury square Moon is know for sudden temper tantrums, especially when Transit Moon is acting up. Let us say this person has a project deadline, and the Boss [Nemesis?] passes a snide remark against her pace. The Hybris conjunction will create a volley of expletives that are guaranteed to produce a pink slip.

I was thinking of the movie Anger Management *ing Adam Sandler, that is a lot about Hybris conjunct Nemesis Ascendant. Self Sabotage because of implosive temper. I think Richard Dreyfuss has essayed such a combination in his role in "What about Bob". Anger because of Pride + Self being an Enemy.

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posted June 13, 2011 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for explaining that,

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posted December 27, 2013 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eliotray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have this conjunct Mercury.I guess I can't make fun of the Eris people



As do I, 2 deg orb, conjunct Mercury @16 Scorpio (Pluto is right next door @17 Scorpio, lets include him)

How nasty is your mouth Ami, because when I get upset I can say pretty outrageous and offensive things... things George Carlin would say.

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posted January 01, 2014 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Hybris is in a sensitive place in my chart, but I've never been able to figure out what exactly all the things in this area means!

Chiron aries@24.14
Asmodeus aries@25.49
Vertex aries@26.06
---opposed---
Hekate libra@24.36
Apophis libra@25.09
Anti-vertex libra@26.06
Hybris libra@27.57
Qumran scorpio@0.34
Kaali scorpio@2.14
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Mars gemini@29.33

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posted January 01, 2014 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe those aspects show where my Chiron wound originated?

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posted January 01, 2014 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hybris conjunct IC exact...

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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posted November 16, 2015 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not much is going on with Hybris in my Chart except that it conjuncts my Dawn in Taurus @0d in the beginning of my 5th house.

Dawn in Taurus @0d
Hybris in Taurus @0d

Not sure what it could mean yet but perhaps Dawn lights up my Hybris and makes sure I am true to myself and keeps me honest so hybris does not permeate my life and get in my way of personal growth.

Here are additional interpretations of Hybris I found:

"Hybris = Expectation, glass-ceilings, limits—what one future-paces as their fate, their slot in life—and what can be expected of others; what others, parents, you see as “your fate;” conditioned limitations."

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"This concept is one of the most significant retardants and obstacles on whatever your Spiritual Path may be! Hubris shows most strongly in the Shadow-side of your Sun Sign—the headstrong Me-and-Mine approach to others and the environment. It’s also seen in most Mars interactions, until humility slowly intrudes–often after a Martian accident or deflation.
But actually it’s present in some degree, often quite large, in the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Saturn, and even Jupiter. The Higher Vibrational Planets of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto work to diminish ego, partly by smashing or eroding Hubris. It’s quite a demonstration!"

Well my ex has it conjunct his Mercury which rules his AC and he is very prideful and I feel it gets in the way of his own happiness and personal growth.

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posted November 16, 2015 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have this conjunct Mercury.I guess I can't make fun of the Eris people


Well in your case based on your history of abuse I would think that hybris is what gives you the pride you needed to 'move on from a damaging situation.'

I don't know you well enough to know if you are too prideful but since it conjuncts mercury I suppose you can be intellectually arrogant MAYBE LOL, doesn't sound like you though...!

I know my ex has it conjunct mercury and he was not intellectually arrogant IMO but he was very reserved so maybe he kept his arrogance to himself but I doubt that.

He was very prideful though and if he made up his mind about something that was it, even if it was not a good decision, his pride would not let him go back on his decision. He has venus square Nessus-Ceres in cancer so I think he is prone to holding grudges and punishing you via silent treatment giving you the cold shoulder, not showing any emotion/affection.

You add Hybris conjunct Mercury and pride also can lead to cutting off communication with person he is angry with and wants to punish.

He is a real GOOD guy though, truly, that is just how he copes and protects himself and is so ingrained and an automatic mechanism in him that I dont think he can help it, deep down he doesn't mean any harm; I feel he is not fully aware of it in a sense that he copes this way.

I hope he is happy and doing well!

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posted November 22, 2015 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only aspect I have with this is with Chiron. Hybris sextile Chiron 1 orb. Maybe I am arrogant with my healing and with my pain? I can attest to this. Sometimes I can get so caught up in my pain that I don't notice others. Or other times I think that my pain is worse than another persons pain. Or that I can heal myself better than anyone else. That's certainly true with my dislike of therapists

My boyfriend has Hybris trine Moon 1 orb and I can tell you that that is so true! He acts very superior with his own rational and detached emotions, that everyone else who expresses a negative emotion is inferior and wrong, but I can see through that in a quick second and I know he feels harsh emotions he just suppresses them (moon in 12th).

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Leo Moon
Aqua Merc
Aqua Venus
Cap Mars
Leo MC
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