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Topic: Asteroids & Eating Disorders
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neptune5
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posted August 01, 2006 06:55 PM
 
Well Ceres rules eating disorders, but an actual disorder would not be possible without the (negative attribute) insecurity from Vesta. Eating disorders aren't TOO common but moreso among people that are pressured by outside forces (circumstances, profession, the media) to become that way. I'm just wondering if once your pressured it (ceres and vesta to like saturn or mercury) becomes afflicted or is it always that way for some people.This would probably be an example of a person with an eating disorder. Hmmm. Ceres in the 1st house with a Cancer cusp (ascendant) Square the planet Uranus in the 6th house. What are your takes on this subject? ------------------
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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 01, 2006 09:37 PM
Hmm, I don't know. According to your theory I'd be a prime candidate for an eating disorder. But while I have issues and health problems realted to a poor diet, I have nothing that would qualify as a full-blown eating disorder itnehconventional sense. I have Ceres conjunct my Sun and Mercury (falls between them) in the 10th.Ceres is associated with nuturing and unconditional love. How you leap fromt hat to eating disorders?
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alanabelle86
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posted August 01, 2006 10:40 PM
Ceres rules eating disorders- doesn't it? I'm sure negative (or positive) aspect could in some way attribute to it. Maybe harsh aspect to Venus and the Moon, something like that. Won't be the same for everyone, obviously. It'd be interesting to hear some other sides on this.I struggled with an eating disorder (still do) since I was 10 years old (about 10 years now). Ceres is in my 1st house conjunct my Ascendant, Sun, and Pluto. It's square my Moon (10th house) and Mars (4th house) trine Jupiter (5th house), it's also square to my Vesta (6th house).
I've always had issues with dieting, however. Even if it's being healthier, it's the fad diets that get me. I always seem to take it overboard somehow. ...My Vesta-Saturn-Moon form a grand trine (6th house, 2nd house, 10th house)
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lovegoblin
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posted August 02, 2006 11:04 AM
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Glaucus
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posted August 02, 2006 11:48 AM
Ceres is asteroid of nurturing.
When women nurtured babies, they fed them with their milk. Feeding is often a part of nurturing. People nurture themselves by feeding themselves. Eating and feeding are connected. Drinking and feeding are connected too.Ceres was the goddess of the harvest in Roman mythology. Demeter was her greek counterpart.
Without Ceres, things on earth wouldn't grow and so people often suffered from starvation. the word,cereal comes from Ceres It's logical that eating disorders can be a Cereal thing. hehehehehe It can be a Ceres thing IP: Logged |
alanabelle86
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posted August 02, 2006 12:57 PM
No, Chiron is in my 8th house it's trine my Ascendant. Saturn doesnt make any major negative aspects to my Ascendant..I do have perfectionism issues... My parents were very strict and unaccepting of anything less than what they considered "perfect". If it was that meant no praise, no affection, no attention... (Imagine, I have a Leo Moon  ) IP: Logged |
lovegoblin
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posted August 02, 2006 01:07 PM
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Dulce Luna
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posted August 02, 2006 01:13 PM
I have chiron in the 6th house and I can understand what you mean by an eating disorder. I don't have one but I still have a poor diet-even after saturn went through there to teach me a lesson  .I thought Ceres was about nurturing though. I don't see how eating disorders would come into play. The way I see it is that if Ceres was in the 6th house that would mean to me that you take good care of yourself. IP: Logged |
neptune5
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posted August 02, 2006 03:38 PM
Yes your not the only one with food problems, i tend to eat without thinking or over-induldge in food and drink, since i have Moon in Pisces in the 6th house with a Ceres in Libra in the 2nd house, even though my metabolism is better than average since my Vesta is in the 9th house.------------------
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alanabelle86
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posted August 02, 2006 03:50 PM
Agreed about control issues. Eating Disorders are often largely based around control issues, whether or personal control or what not.
I feel theres a flip side to every placement. Just because a positive aspect of deemed "positive" asteroid is so, doesn't mean it can't have a negative affect. I mean, isn't Ceres nurturing...or lack there of? Just like the Moon or any other planet can represent either having something or not. Like, i.e. Saturn --being disciplined vs. needing to discipline/restrict.. or Jupiter -- expansion vs. the need to expand... Everyone manifests aspects etc. in a different way...
I think a comparison of the charts of many people who've had eating disorders could help... however, i dont think that just because we feel something isn't likely we should rule it out all together...
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Glaucus
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posted August 02, 2006 04:59 PM
Ceres could also be overprotecting,smotheringSome say Ceres was overprotective,smothering of her daughter,Proserpina. It was hard for her to deal with an empty nest. Ceres nurtured the Earth..she helped things grown on Earth. When Proserpina was gone, Ceres neglected her duties and so things didn't grow. that myth does tell about lack of nurturing I agree that Ceres can also be lack of nurturing and not just nurturing....it can be nurturing issues...if Ceres is challenged by planets...especially Saturn Ceres in t-square with Saturn and Neptune could definitely be some serious nurturing issues.
I believe that Ceres could be another indicator for mother too.
also..check out the asteroid,Demeter. It might be another placement for nurturing stuff.
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posted August 02, 2006 05:01 PM
I feel that my Moon in 6th square the Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittariius in 3rd and retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th t-square can indicate my eating issues in the past. It's all about nurturing yourself. Eating is nurturing yourself. You're taking care of yourself. Before, it was your mother that nurtured,took care,and fed you IP: Logged |
pseudofemme
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posted August 04, 2006 11:29 PM
Hey Alanabelle, I also have Chiron in the 8th house trine my ascendant... and I've struggled with eating disorders for many years, too. I don't know if the two are related though.I have Moon square Pluto, Venus square Neptune, and Saturn opposition Mars... perhaps those are part of the cause for me. But I think eating disorders are just one coping mechanism among many possible outlets--some people turn to drug abuse, alcoholism, self mutilation, etc. rather than ED's. So I doubt there's any particular aspect or placement in the chart that indicates an eating disorder specifically... rather, it would indicate self-destructive behavior in general. I wonder if hard aspects to Neptune might be one factor, since eating disorders have a lot to do with self-deception and having distorted views of one's self. Saturn and Pluto also, in terms of the need for control. Maybe a lot of Virgo or Pisces influence (or planets in the 6th or 12th houses)--since that would indicate someone who tries to protect the feelings of others, thereby turning their grief/anger/depression inward. IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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posted August 05, 2006 01:53 PM
Ceres in the horoscope shows the early nurturing we received and how we nurture others. It also directly rules food and clothing. I have seen two cases of professional designers who had Ceres aspecting Pallas (which rules the ability to see patterns).Ceres in the Signs shows our nurturing style and the types of things that make us feel nurtured. Ceres in the Houses shows where we are most likely to express our nurturing side and also where we can best receive nurturing. To find out more about Ceres and the other asteroids, the best book available is Asteroid Goddesses by Demetra George.
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Ceres21.1.html Of course, my mom fed and clothed me. That's part of nurturing. Feeding is part of nurturing. Eating and feeding are related,and they are both part of nurturing. It's also nourishment. Nourishment is part of nurturing too. I don't see why the link between Ceres and eating is difficult for others to see. If you read the myth of Ceres, it all makes sense. With her being the Goddess of the harvest, people depended on her for food. Just like you see that Juno not only relates to marriage, but it also relates to jealousy. in myths, Juno was a jealous wife and punished Jupiter's lovers. http://www.astrologycom.com/aster.html
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/ceres.html
http://astrotribe.tribe.net/thread/0f3b056f-5b74-4d80-b10e-63b5d82c569f
http://goddess.astrology.com/ceres/eating.html
Keywords and what it rules:
attachment, caring, children, comfort, dependency, diet, eating disorders, fertility, food, grief, growth, love, mother, nourishing, nurturing, nutrition, procreation, reproduction, self-esteem, self-worth, separation, sharing agriculture, crops, farming, food, gardening, grain, growing, herbs, horticulture, plants, seeds
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/ceres.html You have to make sure that you see the overall big picture when it comes to asteroids and not just connect it to only just 1 concept. Neptune5 was right about Ceres relating to eating disorders. She wasn't just making a big leap nor jumping to conclusions. She was very logical in applying Ceres to eating disorders. I feel that hard aspects(conjunctions,oppositions,squares,quincunxes,semisquares,sesquiquadrates,parallels,and contraparallels) of Ceres-Neptune,Ceres-Jupiter,Ceres-Venus,Ceres-Moon can relate to eating disorders
Princess Diana's Ceres is in Taurus in 5th(nurturing in a sensual,physical manner in areas of self expression,romance,and children) and the hard aspects are
oppose Neptune - addictions,boundary issues
semisquare Juno - committed relationship partners
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neptune5
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posted August 05, 2006 06:17 PM
Yea, I have Neptune Square Ceres and Uranus Square Ceres, i don't have an eating disorder but i am very self-concious about my weight, years ago i used to be a size 16 now i'm a 2 to 4, as i grew i got smaller and my health got a lot better (thanks to a direct Saturn Trine Vesta and Venus Sextile Ceres), notice if you have any bad aspects to the ruler of the house your ceres or vesta lies in it will have a toll on your health. ------------------
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