posted July 08, 2008 09:36 PM              

Here’s The JUNO-Persona in comparison to my natal chart
(conjunctions/oppositions only, orbs: 0-2 dg):

J-ASC cj. my Mars/Juno-Mp (exact)
J-ASC cj. my draco Saturn
J-ASC oppos. my Pt.of Libido
My marriage might influence/curb my erotic longings, demanding some discipline in this regard - and it might demand much effort and perseverance from me. Not (only) fun to make it work.

J-Moon cj. my natal Juno
J-Moon cj my natal Pt.of Harmonia (exact)
J-Moon cj. my natal Kaali (exact)
J-Moon cj. my draco Chiron (exact)
J-Moon oppos. my natal Liebe (exact)
J-Moon oppos. my natal Happiness (exact)
J-Moon oppos. my natal Venus/Eros-MP (exact)
So the Juno-Moon is cj. the Juno-Sun and also conjunct to all these cozy factors – It’ll be a marriage for love, obviously. Intensity! But there’s a great chance for a harmonic emotional balance. If the volatilty/passion is handled well.

J-Mercury cj. my natal Pt. of Fortune
J-Mercury cj. my natal Amor/Juno-MP (exact)
J-Mercury oppos. my natal Jupiter
J-Mercury oppos. my natal Osiris
J-Mercury oppos. my natal Toro
J-Mercury oppos. my natal Fascination
J-Mercury oppos. my natal Union (exact)
J-Mercury oppos. my natal own Name-asteroid
The communication in my marriage obviously makes me happy, is inspired by my ideals and also fuels them. It even might lead to an inflation of my hopes and enthusiasm, and I might overestimate the(intellectual) strength of my partner. Or: I might be too easily blinded or “talked into things” inside my marriage. I’d say: A dash of reality and down-to-earth-thinking could help avoiding misunderstandings and delusions. Communication seems to be key factor. (In fact, in my natal chart I have Juno-square-Mercury!)

Wow – The Venus in my Juno-Persona-chart is located close to the Aries-point, at 1° Aries! Stormy! ;-)
J-Venus cj. my Cupido (exact)
J-Venus oppos. my draco Venus
A strong and rash infatuation will be the base of it all, to say the least.

J-Mars cj. my draco Valentine
J-Mars cj. my natal Pt.of Bondage
J-Mars oppos. my natal Sun
“Bondage” … and Mars opposing my Sun? Again, a certain amount of aggressiveness and tension. Obviously I must give in some inches to make it work, re-think my own way of self-expression - and must make some compromises that are not easy for me to make?

J-Jupiter cj. my natal Phoinix
J-Jupiter cj. my natal Venus/Node-MP (exact)
J-Jupiter oppos. my natal Pax
J-Jupiter oppos my natal Sun/Amor-MP
Some “fate” involved? Maybe … along forgotten relationship starting all over again? An on-and-off-thing?

J-Saturn cj. my natal Pan
J-Saturn cj. my natal Pt.of. Identity
Again a strong hint on some self-discipline and self-restriction necessary in my marriage, a call for my steadfastness …

J-Juno cj. my draco Juno (exact)
Again a “fated” flavour …

J-Vertex cj. my draco Uranus
J-Vertex oppos. my natal Ceres
The way this marriage comes over me will surprise me – it will go against my perceptions/expectations and against the ways I am used to care for other people and to be cared for myself.

J-Lust cj. my natal IC/oppos. my natal MC (exact)
J-Lust opposite my Venus/Uranus-MP (exact)
This marriage will inspire me to revise my hitherto developed life goals and the perception I had of my core inner being. It will be an unsettling, but also maybe freeing experience for me. I might feel quite insecure and weak, overwhelmed by my passion.

J-Eros oppos. my natal Moon/Uranus-MP (exact)
The strong (erotic?) attraction might be an unsettling, but exciting experience for me.

J-North Node oppos. my natal Pt.of Marriage (exact)
J-North Node oppos. my draco Sun
The marriage will bring evolvement to my ancient “self” and my former idea of a relationship.

So … If I ever should get married, it wouldn’t be an easy tea party, I guess. Rather quite a consuming experience for me, would shake me up in many ways, would surprise and unsettle me – and would cost me a whole lot of compromises and self-discipline. It might challenge my “ego” as I knew it and pursued it till then. And that might be difficult for me. But all this will come for great passion and fulfilling emotions – IF the rocky edges of ego-adjustment are handled right. It will be a headstrong partner, and he must have some hypnotic powers or must be very powerful/influential in other ways, in order to get me to “pay that price”. ;-) Because I am admittedly quite stubborn, can be erratic and quite egocentric. I see that here – and I also see that I can probably only love and desire a partner who forces me a bit to my knees … And who would (kindly) force me to re-make my life’s plans. (Don’t know … I get a slight “SM”-impression here … HUH!)

The spooky thing: I just LEFT someone who behaved in that way! ;-) I felt threatened in my ego all over – and I jumped off the train shortly before I had given up all my life for him (my current living place and all). I didn’t like and couldn’t cope with that dictatorial behaviour of that man at all! It led me to distrust him and to doubt his motifs, I didn’t feel recognized or respected at all. (And I still think that I am right here.)

posted July 08, 2008 10:02 PM              

First you look up the exact position Juno has in your natal chart - say it is 10° Taurus.

Then you make up a completely new chart, in which the Sun is located at 10° Taurus. This "Sun" would then reflect the essential core of your (natal) Juno. And you can then see where your Juno's Mercury, Moon etc. are positioned, how communication and emotions function with it, etc.

Important: How to find the right date and the right birthyear for that Juno-chart???

You take the NEXT point of time after your own birth, when the Sun reaches the Juno-position in your natal chart.

It depends on where Juno is positioned in your natal chart. I'll take mine as an example: I am born in July, so my own Sun is in Cancer (Birthyear 1970). My natal Juno is in 5° Taurus, though.

So I figured out when the Sun has hit that Taurus-5°-position again - for the first time after my own birth - and that was in the April of the following year - so the birthyear for my Juno-persona would be 1971 (in April then). Although I myself am born in 1970.

You can find the exact "birthdate" of your Juno by experimenting a bit. If it is located at an early degree of ... say ... Taurus, it will be somewhen in the end of April, the NEXT April following your birthday. If it is in a higher degree of a sign, then the birthday will lie at the end of that sign.

Just shuffle a bit, re-model the date - and then you'll soon find the day, when the Sun has hit your Juno-position exactly. Important: For the first time after your own birthdate!

THAT will be the "birthday" of your Juno. And you can make Juno's own chart from there and investigate it.;-)

posted July 09, 2008 01:15 AM            

seeing that Mercury is conjunct Ascendant in the Juno chart, i guess it'll be a brainy marriage?
J-Psyche conjunct N-Juno (don't really know what this could mean, but cute!)
J-Juno conjunct N-Eros
J-Mars conjunct N-Mercury
J-North node conjunct N-Midheaven
J-Venus conjunct N-Uranus
J-Jupiter conjunct N-Mars

etc. etc. fun!

posted July 09, 2008 06:48 AM            

The ruler of the Descendant, Uranus, is is the 3rd house.

Mercury is 4 degrees from the Ascendant, in the 1st house, in Leo.

Mars in Aqua in the 7th house EXACTLY squares my natal Mercury. On my natal chart, Mercury is in the 7th house. It is Square Mars in the 3rd house, but quite wide at nearly 8 degrees. (By progression it is exact and because Mars goes retrograde after my birth this effect lasts a long time, most of my life.) Mars is in the 3rd house, in Aqua, conjunct the NN.

As a natal Gemini Sun, with Mars in the 3rd, and Mercury in the 7th house, you would expect me to feel that communication is important in a relationship. That this theme is shown on this chart with Mercury rising and the ruler of the 7th in the 3rd house is fitting.

I am already married, and rather creepily, the NN is not only conjunct my natal Mars, but also my husband's natal Saturn. Actually he has Sun Conjunct Saturn, which gives it a different edge. He is an Aqua, the sign ruling the Descendant on this chart (different to my natal chart) and his Sun falls in the 7th house. The Ascendant is in Leo. He has Mars in Leo and it does fall in the first house.

On our synastry charts there are trines between the Suns and the Mercurys. The Mars' are in opposition. So you get the fiery relationship suggested by Mars in the 7th on the Juno chart, and the strong Mercury connection.

Actually, what he said was: I married you because you have a brain. He seems to like women who are aggressive and opinionated, which made sense when I met his Granny. That's what she's like.

posted July 09, 2008 08:05 AM              

The Junopersona MC is conjunct my Valentine exactly.

The Juno-Moon and Juno-ASC are opposite my Destinn and Vertex.

The Juno-Kaali is exactly conjunct my Karma.

The Juno-Venus is exactly conjunct my D Sun.

the Juno-Juno exactly conjuncts my D Venus.

posted July 09, 2008 08:25 AM              

Did anyone notice that they attract/attracted to their Juno MC sign? or project their Juno MC sign in relationships? I have my Juno Moon conjunct Juno Pluto and Natal Pluto! Grrr!

posted July 09, 2008 05:36 PM            

It's a wide aspect but Saturn is conjunct the NN in the 3rd. Tighter, the NN is Square Neptune, which is adding that element of confusion and fog which makes things interesting, quite possibly in all the wrong ways. Saturn in the 3rd is quality control in communications. With the NN, I'm thinking lessons learned on this one. I have NN in the 3rd natally and this definitely fits.

The 8th is about shared finances, O.K, it is about sex as well so Mars in here looks quite sizzling. It's Opposite Jupiter, I was going to say overblown but that sounds a bit dodgy. If we are talking shared money that spells out an obvious risk.

The major players are in the 8th, the Sun and Moon, with the Moon ruling the chart. So the matters expressed here are of import. Aquarius is about needing space but it is also about equality.

posted July 09, 2008 06:42 PM              

well i dont have nothing in the 7th...but have a loaded 5th - saturn/,mars/vx/uranus,not the best planets to have there isnt it?

Saturn-restriction
uranus - unpredictability and distance
mars - sexual energy but also anger issues
VX - well,dont really know about this..

NN - 8Gem in the 11th : merc is conj sun in the 10th so communication is essencial (although to me is big issue cause i have my own Merc in the 12th natally...)

Pluto in the 4th - EEK! intense and struggle for power in family and home..

Moon in the 8th :fits in me and i have it natally as well

Venus in the 10th ;good for profession but not very romantic here,though it kind of fits with my natal Aries DSC...

Interesting is that J.Valentine exact conj my natal Valentine - will find true love through marriage??

Blue Moon can you help me on looking at a better perspective on this one?Maybe narrow the "waht is more important to look at it here?"

If i compare to my bf´s natal ( which is the person i really look up for committment naturally..) i find:

my J.Moon conj his Moon
my J.Karma conj his Amor adn 3rdcusp.Trine his Karma and name asteroid.
my J.Sun (conj my natal juno)conj his Karma
my J.Venus conj his Destinn and D.ASC 0º
oposes his Saturn also.
my J.Saturn conj his Jup
my J.NN conj his Valentine and D.Amor
Opose his mars and Vertex
my J.Kiron conj his Kiron
my J.VX conj his Mars/Solstcice c. of DCS
my J.Juno conj his D.Sun/D.Venus

J.IC conj his Venus
j.AC conj his Solstice c.of Valentine
J.DSC conj his Solstice c. of VX - dw!

posted July 09, 2008 07:02 PM              

-venus with mars,mercury,lilith and Juno - all in Cap but mars/VX is at Aqua. ( he has Aqua Moon natally).

- no planets in his 7th like me ( Pisces)

- Loaded 4th house of home and family:Uranus,neptune and sun..hmm quite a difficult placement isnt it? ( all in Sag).

-NN in 10th in the sign of Cancer ( he is a cancer NÑ and AC natally)

-Saturn/Pluto in the 2nd:dificuflt placements in the house of money and possessions:he might get too restriected and unempowered in money and business?

If i compare to my natal i see:

- J.Sun conjj my neptune:yup idealization,magic feelings and sense of flying at the top of cloud 9..

- J.Moon opose my Venus

- J.Venus conj my IC and opose my D.ASC

- J.Saturn conj my Saturn adn opose Juno

- J. NN conj my MC,conj my JohnPaul

-J.kIRON CONJ my Moon

- J.Amor opose my D.Venus

-J.Valentine conj my ANNA - name asteroids work!

-J.AC conj my Sun

-J.DSC conj his own ANna asteroid and opose my Anna

From PERSONA To PERSONA:

MY J.NN conj his J.Valentine and MC
mY j.amor conj his J.VX
My J.DSC wide conj his J.Venus
MY J.KARMA conj his J.AC
My J.VX conj his J.IC

posted July 09, 2008 07:31 PM            

Maybe to back this up, you should look into the Descendant persona as well. The Descendant represents the FIRST marriage and marriage partner, quite literally.

posted July 10, 2008 12:59 AM              

Well if that's the case here are some v. interesting points:

* first off the asc/dsc axis is reversed and conjunct by 2 degrees. 0 in persona vs. 2 in reg. natal chart.

* then my j.moon is conjunct my daughter's moon - to the degree

* j.mars is conjunct my love's venus - 1 deg

* j.asc conj my love's sun - 1 deg

ruler of dsc is the sun 11th sagittarius conj neptune. ruler of asc is uranus in the 10th, no conj but it squares the moon in the 1st [1 deg].

Everything resides [left side] in the 9th through the 1st. Looks funny for a love relationship.

Thanks for this ~

edit: have to add more cos there's more

* daughter's j. sun conj my asc [3 deg]

* love's j. sun conj my j. moon & daughter's natal moon [0 deg orb!]

* love's j. venus conj my j. asc [0 deg orb!]

* daughter also has her asc/dsc axis reversed in j. persona chart

* j. venus conj love's j.mc [2 deg]

* natal saturn conj. love's j.dsc [3 deg] - ha i must seem like such a downer lmao

* all 3 of us have moon in the 1st in juno persona charts: his is there with the nn, me & daughter's is there with mars rising just before it also in the first.

[as an aside my progressed chart's asc/dsc at the time of her birth was conj her natal asc/dsc axis [reversed] - asc/dsc conj on both sides - so my progressed chart runs right along with hers and the asc/dsc axis stays opposed throughout our lifetime]

Now this is getting just downright spooky. I'm calling it a night.

Thanks much! I love new astro play-things

posted June 12, 2011 09:56 PM            

So, this Juno chart for me is born the 15th of december in the same year I was born.

so, what is different about this chart.

Juno Chart Ac is at 10 d leo. That would trine my natal sun within 5 d (mine is at 15 sag)
the stellium in virgo has moved a bit closer to the third house with mars within 4 degrees of conjuncting the 3rd house.
Now the third house is ruled by virgo instead.
Fourth house is ruled by venus. Venus is in the late degrees of scorpio now.
The sun and mercury are in the the fifth house. But....mercury is retro...darn
Saturn is right on the 8th house cusp. Still in the same degree of my saturn.
Moon and Jupiter are in the tenth house.
Tenth house ruled by aries.