posted January 10, 2008 11:36 AM            

for instance Pluto was discovered in 1930 and seems to have been meet with some skepticism by the deans of astrology. It did not make it onto the longitude tables of Raphael's Ephemeris until the late 1970s, after a delay of nearly 40 years.

That the astrological community not only ignores the thousands of discoveries made since Pluto, who was long considered our edge, much of this community is downright derisive. There are *too many* of these objects to give credence. But they do exist. I wonder if many years down the road - the modern astrologers of say 2031 might look back at this dismissal with a wry twist of lips….followed by “well, they were ignorant at the time of Pluto’s discovery too” I find it somewhat amusing that astro.com the leading astrology website some months ago added inclusions such as Sedna; allows that Uranian Astrology exists with they’re *hypotheticals* but largely pats one on the head, with a “there you are” and leaves it at that.

If anyone finds this topic of interest, here is the best re-wording of Eris Mythology I have read to date:

Greek myths offer a clever explanation for just about everything. But what, exactly, are we explaining? How the war started, or how humans came to be this way? In the first instance, is Eris to blame, or is vanity at fault? Well, the two support one another. Someone intent on getting revenge and inciting chaos exploits what you might call a narcissism wound, which exists on both an individual and cultural level as a real vulnerability. Yet still that thirst for specialness and uniqueness and power persists, to the degree of a mystical longing that is indeed answered and used by those who recognize it and can indeed use it to take power of their own. credit to my favorite writer/astrologer Eric Francis.

I have more thoughts on this. But will wait to see if there is any interest

posted January 23, 2008 09:26 AM            

Giving this post another shot.

Given that it takes time and much research to learn what exactly these new bodies might mean to the collective. If the astrological majority discounts their significance in any way shape or form, then they are only studied and used by a few. I realize that many of these discoveries will never hold the weight of say a Jupiter placement in ones chart. I was always quite taken with LG's idea about dual sign rulerships. And that we have not discovered the true rulers of certain signs.

posted January 23, 2008 10:25 AM              

see, I noticed you.

However, I am among those who like to concentrate on the quick-movers, because they seem to be more individual than the generational planets.

Having said that, I strongly believe, that if such a generational planet like Pluto or Eris is in exact aspect with a personal planet / asteroid / point, then the results will be overwhelming and earthshaking (Ask me about the conjunction of Tr-Pluto to my Sun / Mercury on the GC - literally world-shaking. lol).

But if ERis doesn`t make very exact connections, then I would not look to it too much, because everyone has Eris in Aries, right?

In my chart Eris doesn`t make any exact aspects to the major planets, so I really can`t say anything about its effect.

posted January 23, 2008 10:50 AM            

Eris has a return rate of 500+ years. Pluto 200+.

I however become annoyed with professionals that discount the significance of centaurs and other minors. Although things seem to be improving as far as recognition goes -[likely due to PC's and the internet information exchange] Chiron, discovered in 1977 is largely recognized as a major player now. But that is still 30 years.

And to thread morph a bit, I would like to see Chiron assigned. Maybe I am impatient!

posted January 23, 2008 11:38 AM            

you can also get ideas about objects by looking at charts.

also...astronomically oriented astrologers also could get ideas by looking at the nodes and perihelion/aphelion, perigree/apogee of the object at the time of discovery. Philip Sedgwick does that

posted January 27, 2008 02:24 PM            

Here is one person that hopes the digestion of these discoveries increases in rate. Our cosmic metabolism needs stimulation

posted June 13, 2011 09:47 AM            

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