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astro junkie
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posted March 24, 2005 11:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a continuation of a topic brought up in another thread, wanted to give it it's own thread. Hope you participate ...

Regarding Juno - (from astrology.com)


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"Women with strong Juno influences:

Barbara Bush (wife with husband's power and status)
Hillary Clinton (wife with husband's power and status)
Grace Kelly (gave up career to become wife with power and status)
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis (wife with two husbands' power and status)
Marla Maples (2nd wife with money and status)
Imelda Marcos (wife with husband's power and status)
Yoko Ono (wife with husband's fame and status)
Nancy Reagan (wife with husband's power and status)"



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It's too bad they do not define what they mean by "strong Juno influences", but I took a look :::

Barbara Bush - Juno in Sagittarius
Hilary Clinton - Juno in Capricorn
Grace Kelly - Juno in Sagittarius
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis - Juno in Scorpio
Marla Maples - Juno in Libra
Imelda Marcos - Juno in Scorpio
Yoko Ono - Juno in Scorpio
Nancy Reagan - Juno in Capricorn

My Juno is in Pisces in my 11th House. And it's true, I've NEVER had the inkling to hook up with "powerful" men. I'd rather it be a MEETING of TWO powerful minds - mine and theirs! (Very Juno in the 11th House)

How about you? What Sign and House is your Juno in, and would you say you are attracted to those "powerful" types, or not?

Here's more info on Juno -


"Juno -

Juno represents the wife, the life partner, the soul mate. This asteroid affects a woman's decision to share herself with another through a physical, emotional and spiritual union. Juno picks up where Venus leaves off -- after the courtship phase, when the conquest is over and the love and commitment begin.

The definition of marital union changes over time, as Juno's position in the sky changes. Modern partnerships, including long-term relationships without a legal ceremony and same-sex unions, are still seen as marriages under Juno's jurisdiction. In some parts of the world, marriages are still arranged based on astrological charts.

Elizabeth Taylor , Hillary Clinton and Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis all play out the spirit of The Wife. Their power and fame have much to do with their status as wives of powerful and famous men. Despite the efforts of feminism, many women still receive social standing from the actions of their husbands, thus becoming known as the Doctor's Wife or the Preacher's Wife or even the President's Wife.

Loyalty, fidelity, intimacy, monogamy, and the way you possess your partner or wish to be possessed fall under Juno's care. Juno also fosters promises between yourself and your partner, especially those made under the eyes of a Higher Power.

Juno's shadow side presides over infidelity, divorce, codependence, financial dependence and spousal abuse. The darkest side of Juno is home to the woman harmed by her partner's hand, like Nicole Brown Simpson or Dorothy Stratten. Relinquishing total control of yourself and the relationship, or losing your identity, take Juno's example too far."

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alma-noble
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posted March 24, 2005 12:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Juno in Virgo cojunct Moon , but more close by Venus in my IV th house.

I don't find myself attracted by powerful type of men at all. Maybe because my Venus position is in Virgo I am mostly attracted by men under my condition or education. But most of the time quite attractive guys and good caracter,they always treat me well - I've never been in violent or abusing relationship and also each time I've dreamed to have a very serious and special relationship and to share a home together in the future - but maybe any girl dreams about this!

About all these in my forth house I can say I'm enjoying the time in my home, but on other hand I am not a kind of housewife to cook and clean all day long! I enjoy all this when I feel like. I need to be stimulated by partner to make me feel I am apreciated and to have the feeling that I am doing all these by my own option not by obligation or duty. And also I like to spend time with my partner in home.

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astro junkie
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posted March 24, 2005 12:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus in Virgo in the 4th House too!!

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alma-noble
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posted March 24, 2005 12:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I remember we share some more similar points in our chart! (I don't remeber your dob)

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posted March 24, 2005 01:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's interesting Aj, I never really gave this thought, I have juno in Scorpio 1st house.
I hate it but I tend to attract or become attracted to men that are considered "leader" types...even my stupid dad is the "Owner" of his own company!! I've tried to get a way from this and have pursued more mellow guys but then it seems the other one's always end up in my life. It's my fate....

*edit* oops it's actually more in my 2nd house then 1st but it still makes a lot of aspects to personal planets.

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chrissymgreen
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posted March 24, 2005 01:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dear gloria,

great thread! my juno is in gemini, in my 9th house. it trines my ascendant exactly.

i have always had this idea of a partner who's fun to be around, who's clever and witty, changeable - forever interesting. a good friend, a compadre in crime. when i was younger, i was struck by that short story by f. scott fitzgerald called 'the rich boy' in which the lead (male) character described his good (male) friend who happened to be rich and his long-standing relationship with this one girl, and he described how he'd watch them talk to each other like no one else was around, they'd just forget all time. i like that, it's what would work for me. and in the 9th house, well, someone i could travel and learn with would be really nice, too.

well, i just had a thought, the 9th house is the empty leg of my big sun-moon-pluto t-square (a very tight one, apsects by a degree or less). so anyone who comes along (like my virgo sun/gemini moon friend) and has a planet that falls in my 9th house, especially if it were to conjunct my juno, and especially if it were a major planet like say the moon...just like my friend's moon happens to do, well, then, that person would probably seem especially appealing as a partner. just a thought.

i just want a connection that's easy and interesting and growth-oriented.

c

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26taurus
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posted March 24, 2005 03:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey great info! I have Juno in the 1st in Aqurius opposite natal Mars.

I'm attracted to strong personalities. I dont know about "powerful people" per say but I dont like a pushover. I'd like a partner who is on the same level as myself.

Maybe Juno in my first tells of me being seen as a strong personality. I've been told that many times. I make certain people nervous or afraid to talk to me and I dont even have to say or do anything. Some people find me unapprochable. But when they finally do get to know me they are suprised to find out that I am the opposite of what they thought. I also have Ceres conj. Asc. in Capricorn. The Cap Asc probably has something to do with that as well.

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Almost An Angel
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posted March 24, 2005 07:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Juno is in retrograde in Sagittarius in the 11th house.

I suspect the retrograde bit isn't a good sign. . .

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moonshine
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posted March 24, 2005 07:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have juno in virgo in the 3rd house (a stellium along with sun, venus and pluto) and I have never been attracted to powerful men either.

I guess going by this much virgo I should be into tax-accountants or something lol, but I'm not! I don't really have a 'type' but I CAN'T STAND politicians or businessman-type men! Don't trust 'em and they bore me to death. (bleurrgh!!!)

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Duality
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posted March 24, 2005 08:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Juno is in retrograde in Libra. It aspects my Sun/Venus/Merc/Mars (trine), sextiles Jup and opp Sat. It's in 9th house. I do like powerful men but not necessarily powerful in their occupation (although I don't mind that). I like charisma and wit and intellect and men that have a strong personality so moonshine, "power" as I see it, doesn't mean one has to be a CEO or a millionare but a person that has personal power and a strong personality. One of the problems with such men is that they might try to control me and THAT I hate.

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neptune's mermaid
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posted March 24, 2005 08:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is really cool, thanks AJ

Juno in Aquarius in the eleventh house.

"Juno in Aquarius: You need a partner that's - well - different. They may be a genius, eccentric, or just plain insane (maybe all of the above). It may be the partnership that is different. Aquarius is a sign that is fanatic about independence and having enough space. A bi-costal marriage where the two people spend a good deal of time apart is a good situation for the Pallas in Aquarius individual."

It's true

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Secret Garden
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posted March 24, 2005 09:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry to sound ignorant folks, i have read about what juno represents but how do i find where it is on my charts?

love
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sthenri
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posted March 24, 2005 10:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juno in Capricorn/2nd house square my Venus-attracts men who like to own things-can also mean partner who is cold, or not at home much, this is true, the square to my Venus in the 4th gives a conflict that I deal with by being independent as much as possible from my lover, although I would prefer a warmer partner.

Natasha
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GemStar
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posted March 24, 2005 10:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go into the Extended chart section of astro.com.

Look just below the house system (default) and there will be a boxed-in listing titled: additional objects.

'Highlight' the JUNO listing inside the list. There will be other listings of asteroids as well if you are ever curious.

When you pull up your chart, there she will be...somewhere in your 12 houses!! LOL!!

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Secret Garden
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posted March 24, 2005 10:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much GemStar,

Its in Virgo and 12th house, conjunct Asc, opposing Desc., sextile Moon, trine Mercury,

Juno, Mars and Neptune form a T square (Juno square Mars and Neptune )

Love
SG

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posted March 24, 2005 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 24, 2005 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Juno in Libra in the 8th house, conjunct my Pluto, trine my Ascendant, and Sextile my Sun.

Juno in Libra: You need a partner who is charming, social, and has a good artistic sense.
Juno in the 8th House: You need a Sex Machine for a partner. Since the 8th house rules the partner's possessions, well, they may regard you as a possession (especially if there are stress aspects). Marriage and partnership can also help you to reconstruct or transform yourself (whether you want to or not).


Juno Aspects the Sun: There will be a tendency to attract showy, dramatic, Leo types of partners. Conversely, this person could themselves become more showy and dramatic after marriage. The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile, and trine) can act in a similar fashion to Venus. They increase the charm and social graces to a degree. But Juno goes further. It can give one an air of innocence. We like people with Venus in conjunction the Sun because they are charming. Those with Juno in harmonious aspect to the Sun are liked because they are "cute."


Juno Aspects Pluto: Partners will tend to be intense and secretive. Sex can be volcanic. Pluto is the planet of extremes, death, and transformation. Either your power or that of your partner will be affected by marriage. One of you is likely to be transformed in some way. The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) can bring out a strength you never thought you had. The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) will bring out strength too, in the form of dictatorial attitudes and power struggles. One of you will try to dominate the other. The feelings towards the partner can easily go from "I love you" to "I hate you" to "I'm obsessed with you." Even if the two of you break up, this will be the partner you never forget (for better or worse).

Juno Aspects the Ascendant: Juno in conjunction with the Ascendant makes us more attractive, like Venus. But while Venus uses charm, Juno attracts by giving us an air of innocence, like that of a young baby. This trait is also present with the other harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) but not quite as strong. http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Juno21.3.html

I also have:

T-Square from Juno to Mars and Ceres

T-Square from Mars to Pallas and Juno

So, yes, I do desire strong, intense partners. I'm married to a military man with a Scorpio Ascendant (Moon in Libra, though ... quite charming and artistic) and before dating him, I had an unforgettable affair with a much older, Leo, homicide detective. However, I've also learned my lesson about power ... I dated, for far too long, a Scorpio that was just unreal as far as personal power and magnetism went, but he had no constructive outlet. Let's just say his life, and me in it, was not pretty.
Sometimes I feel that my husband does see me as a possession but, as hard as it is to explain, it's not in a negative way. I feel cherished and protected with him, as though he'll always take care of me no matter what. Not that I need to be taken care of ... I just enjoy knowing he feels that way. Security, perhaps. He told me before we were married that he wanted to shrink me down so that I would fit into a precious little box that he could carry with him in his pocket wherever he went. I know that would make alot of women run for the hills but it just made me melt.
I do feel our marriage is helping us bring out the best in each other and it's true that I've become a bit more showy and dramatic since being married. Nothing drastic, really, but I do feel much more comfortable around others and am willing to bring out the clown in me just as often as I bring out the philosopher (before the clown was a part of me that only few and trusted people ever saw).
I think we are also prone to power struggles but there must be a few fairy godmothers waving their wands over our charts because we stop that sort of thing as soon as we recognize it. Compromise, it's not a joke. We both give in equally which, considering who we were before we were married, is a huge leap of accomplishment for us as individuals. (Maybe it's the Libra influence?)
So what exactly is it that I find so attractive about powerful and intense men? I wish I really knew. Part of it must be that I appreciate their potential. They have an inner drive that is unbelievably uplifting to me. I feel that they can accomplish whatever they set their minds to and, since I feel the same way, together we make one heck of a team. I can't stand namby pamby or wishy washy men when it comes to their personal goals in life. Don't just talk about what you want your life to be ... make it so! I'll trot right along beside you doing the same and, if need be, we can help each other out in times of trouble. I also appreciate their confidence and sense of self worth. If they don't have a healthy sense of respect for themselves and their accomplishments and dreams then I feel that they can't possibly have enough respect for me in those areas, either. And the men who have no serious goals, dreams, ambitions ... I'm blessed not to know them in a close and personal sense because it would just drive me bonkers. Mind you, I don't care what you want to do with your life [as long as it's not something abusive or evil (think Hitler) or whatever] as long as you actually have something you want to do and are working towards it. I'm not crazy about status symbols, fame, and recognition, though. Perhaps it's the Scorpio influence (8th house, Pluto) but I'd rather be behind the scenes with someone powerful than all over the media with people constantly poking and prodding at our lives.
I don't quite know what to make of the t-squares, though.

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"This above all:
to thine own self be true,
And it must follow,
as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false
to any man." - Shakespeare

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posted March 24, 2005 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got Juno conjunct Eros in Scorpio in my 12th house - don't know what that means; perhaps that I'm intense & like to keep my love life private? I do have a tendency to like successful men (success is very important to me, with a stellium in Capricorn). I agree with you, Eleanore, on the appeal of successful men - I have a lot of respect for someone who's accomplished what they set their minds to, as that'll be someone I can look up to. Though, having learned some tough lessons from life, I'll say this: I'd much prefer a less 'powerful' man who is loving, honest & devoted to me, to a 'powerful' one who isn't all that in a relationship.

Juno in Scorpio brings a strong sense of fairness and sensitivity to obligations. They like to keep things private. Strong, silent mates would appeal to these natives. This placement is difficult for open communications. <Strange, because, I'd LOVE to have open communications with my man!> Juno in Scorpio people crave emotional and sexual intensity, and intimate bonding with the partner. There can exist the tendency to attempt to control the partner, or to desire exclusive attention from him <Guilty as charged on this latter one; no comment on the former >. Jealousy, manipulation, and territoriality or sexual withdrawal are reactions to the thwarting or denial of these needs. <Ok, this sounds really bad. I don't know... maybe they're presenting the best & the worst traits, which aren't necessarily true?>

*edited* Just saw your post, Eleanore; nice link!! It says:
Juno in 12th house: Watch out for this one. There is an increased chance that the first marriage (or business) partner can do you in, or even be an enemy. More likely, it is you who are doing yourself in by getting attracted to the wrong person. <OMG, is this EVER right! I married this guy who isn't right for me in several ways; so this is another reason why I did it!> This will be especially true if there are stressful aspects to Juno or to the ruler of the 7th house. It could also work out that the partner is really a nice person, but is restricted in some way and requires your constant help.

I have my Sun sextile my Juno, Psyche sextile Juno, Saturn square Juno, and Jupiter & Lilith opposed my Juno.

Oy! Saturn/Juno stress aspects also explain why I've done crazy things: Such aspects can also indicate someone who makes a bad marriage for "practical" reasons, such as security. They will also be prone to stay in a bad marriage to protest their social image, or because "a half a loaf is better than none." As if there is anything "practical" about having a bad marriage! These people have to learn to cut their losses and make a fresh start.

I have to go scrape my jaw off the floor now...
Sunshine

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posted March 24, 2005 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Some people find me unapprochable. But when they finally do get to know me they are suprised to find out that I am the opposite of what they thought."

Bummer, 26. I can totally relate (Cappy Asc). I would think Juno might counter-act this influence, though, rather than reinforce it, as the interpretations I have read for 1st house Juno report a childlike appearance and/or demeanor.

(Incidentally, 26, I wanted to tell you that you remind me, for some reason, of a young Carson McCullers, though I find you much prettier.)

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26taurus
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posted March 25, 2005 12:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Steve! Well, to be a little clearer. Obviously once they get to know me they find me different than they percieved and it is only some people who feel this way, which always suprises me. Alot of others dont react that way at all and will readily approch me. I'm sure it depends a bit on the planetary contacts between the person and I as well. But yes, as you know, this is typical of a Cappy Asc individual.

Interesting about your interpretation of Juno. I can see that in me as well. I'll have to do more research on the asteroids.

A young Carson McCullers eh? I dont know who she is! But I'll google her and find out. Thank you. What about me reminds you of her?

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26taurus
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posted March 25, 2005 02:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great link Eleanore! This describes me to a T!

And Steve, you were right about the child appearance and/or demeanor of the first house Juno person. (I know you are one too ) And yes, it's true. We're big children. lol ....ermm and big babies sometimes too.

Juno in the 1st House: The 1st house is you, how you approach the world. Juno placed here can make being a partner the centerpiece of your life. Juno in the first house can also give you an air of innocence, something like a newborn child. This is especially true if Juno is within 10 degrees of the Ascendant and in the same sign. ............very true.

Juno Aspects Mars: Marriage and partnership will stir you to action. In fact, you may need a partner to be active at all. The partners you attract will tend to be active, assertive, and aggressive. Conversely, having a partner may bring out these traits in you. The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) are indicators of arguments with partners. One of you may try to dominate the other. Uh-huh. Yup, yup. Especially since it is in opposition and Mars is in the 7th.

Juno Aspects Mercury: Well, your partner won't be quiet. Forget the silent type. Anyone who marries you will have to communicate, communicate, communicate. The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) indicate good communication between the two of you. It could also show that your ability to communicate improves with partnership. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) can indicate communication problems with partners. One of you may try to stifle the other here because you both want to talk at once.

Juno in Aquarius: You need a partner that's - well - different. They may be a genius, eccentric, or just plain insane (maybe all of the above). It may be the partnership that is different. Aquarius is a sign that is fanatic about independence and having enough space. A bi-costal marriage where the two people spend a good deal of time apart is a good situation for the Pallas in Aquarius individual. **(I think he meant Juno)

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I have juno in scorpio 9th house conjunct my moon,mercury,and pluto also in the 9th...Im not sure what that means.I guess maybe it would mean I can be very jealous and possessive in love.Im trying to work on that though

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I have Juno in Capricorn in my 4th house. I have been attracted to confident or somewhat arrogant men, not sure about powerful. Interesting topic.

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neptune's mermaid
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posted March 25, 2005 06:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool, thanks Eleanor

Juno trine Pluto

“Juno Aspects Pluto: Partners will tend to be intense and secretive. Sex can be volcanic. Pluto is the planet of extremes, death, and transformation. Either your power or that of your partner will be affected by marriage. One of you is likely to be transformed in some way. The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) can bring out a strength you never thought you had. The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) will bring out strength too, in the form of dictatorial attitudes and power struggles. One of you will try to dominate the other. The feelings towards the partner can easily go from "I love you" to "I hate you" to "I'm obsessed with you." Even if the two of you break up, this will be the partner you never forget (for better or worse).”

A little extreme for my taste, but at least it’s a positive aspect. Volcanic huh? Coooooooool

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posted March 25, 2005 07:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Morning!

I LOVE reading about everyone's Juno! My Juno is in my 7th in Taurus-29th degree!

AND-I just now realized, my partner's Venus is conjunct my Juno-exact, by

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