posted November 28, 2006 05:31 AM            

"I understand astrological Juno as a way to examine compatibility between lovers and their differing betrayal [issues]. In the natal chart Juno can be a strong indication of the Internal Marriage of what you are already married to, what conditions must be maintained for that marriage to continue and the kind of betrayal you feel when these conditions are violated."

I have Juno in Virgo in the third house, conjunct the IC and it really is true that my betrayal issues surround communication. When I do not feel like the person with whom I am in a relationship takes communication seriously, I actually do feel betrayed. When someone fails to communicate something to me or represses something that should be spoken about I take it really personally and am very hurt. I am, in essence, married to both the idea and the act of communication.

So what are YOU married to and what are your Juno/betrayal issues?

posted November 28, 2006 06:23 AM            

I'm fairly tolerant with the infidelity issue, and I believe that open relationships can work if there is complete honesty on both sides. If not, then somebody will be getting abused. My partner disagrees with me on this one, and believes fully in monogamy. I respect him on this.

My BIGGEST betrayal issue is drug abuse. I just HATE drugs. I think that 9 times out of 10, it destroyds what could have been a good relationship. Virtually no one can use drugs in moderation, and for that reason I avoid them and I don't want them anywhere near my reliationship. I have a four and a half year old son, and I want to lead by example. I love him so much and I wouldn't even dream of destroying his upbringing with selfish habits. Any partner of mine will have to respect that. My own partner has had addiction troubles in the past, and faces a daily struggle to stay clean. But he is clean and will remain this way because he wants this way of life more than his frightning old one. We have lost too many friends to drugs and seen many relationships torn apart by them. I've seen first hand what it's like to be brought up around them and it ended up destroying my family, so no thanks - drugs are not for me.
Sorry for the rant, I just hate drugs and it is definately my biggest betrayal issue. I have juno in cancer in the 11th house. Does that make any sense?

posted November 28, 2006 09:37 AM            

Cheating would be an obvious betrayal issue for me. Also anyone who decides to commit and yadayadayada and then just leaves like a minute later. So yeah, maybe abandonment and commitment phobes for me as well.

posted November 28, 2006 11:40 AM            

Sun in Scorpio contraparallel Pluto = betrayed by my father..I never knew him...he split on me when I was a year old...he had drug problems...I wasn't important enough for him to be clean

Moon quincunx Pluto in 1st = betrayed by my mother...she physically/verbally abused me, she didn't tell me the truth about my halsiblings until adulthood,and she manipulated me in other ways

Mercury in Scorpio in 3rd = betrayed in regards to earlier education...special education experiences,problems with classmates

posted November 28, 2006 12:27 PM            

I also feel a sense of betrayal when someone is "fake" in the courtship. By that I mean, someone that seems to be romantic, loves to talk, share, send flowers or cards-only to find out that it was all an act.

I feel secure with Bear and with him the romance- love continues and we are family. We both adore our families and he has children- so I went from no children to a full brood and I LOVE IT!!!

Speaking of Bear- he has Juno in Sagittarius in the 3rd house. He is married to an Archer (hee hee) and he is like me- Communication is 100% important. He has been shut out before and has told me that hurts him more than anything. We are very communicative and have shared everything knowing that we never hold things against each other.

posted November 28, 2006 02:17 PM              

So I’ll marry someone who I consider my friend. Who’s unique and independent, who keeps my secrets and doesn’t mind me lying to him someone who’ll talk and talk and talk and is intensive and secretive

……so basically a freak

Yeah…I guess my betrayal issues are with keeping secrets. I would lose my mind if someone can’t keep a secret. It would be enough to cause me to leave didn’t know there was this side of me

Don’t know if I’d consider lying betrayal - I’d feel bad that he felt he couldn't trust me - and if someone doesn’t trust you, can you trust them? I dunno.

posted November 28, 2006 03:34 PM            

I do have a brood of kids (thought she would run after telling her this) and it was good to know that she is into family. We are family and love to do things together and for each other. This is one of the ways we show each other the way we love each other.

I love to do things for her though. I like to get her flowers, cards, and stuff like that and suprise her with them. It is nice to see how happy I make her feel and see that beautiful smile of hers. She is my everything.

posted November 28, 2006 05:30 PM            

Juno in Aquarius 12th house conj Mercury & trines Pluto
So I’ll marry someone who I consider my friend. Who’s unique and independent, who keeps my secrets and doesn’t mind me lying to him someone who’ll talk and talk and talk and is intensive and secretive

……so basically a freak

Aqua -- lmao at the freak part! I took particular interest in reading your's because my man has his juno in 12th and since I'm pretty new to astrology I'm still cr*p at intepreting that kind of stuff and wanted to see someone's take on that placement. I'm gonna have to ask him if he thinks I'm a unique, independent, intense, secretive freak! Which I'd of course be fine with! Delighted, even.

I have juno in Cancer in my 9th house...I guess that means I need someone who'll be supportive of my life philosophy? Er, does that make sense? I said I'm still cr*p at this sorta thing. I think that makes sense though. I'm definitely into philosophy--I'm a Sag and it was my college major--and I wouldn't be able to fall in love with someone who was too critical of my views or didn't enjoy discussing those sort of things with me (I also have juno trine mercury). I'm fine with a good debate but for a close love relationship, I need my views to be questioned with friendliness instead of a cold, analytical eye.

posted November 28, 2006 09:59 PM            

I’m not sure how this plays out in the 12th (enemies, institutions, the hidden, the collective unconscious) – it’s murky to me like any 12th house issue and especially with my Sun conjunct Neptune. I also don’t have a clue about my “Internal Marriage” – and I’m certainly not Externally married to a career, my job is satisfying but with a Taurus MC I look mainly for financial security in employment.

I suppose this definition of a Leo Juno comes pretty close to how I feel:
http://www.fatewatch.com/women/juno.htm
I guess I feel most "betrayed" by a partner when they "hide" and avoid issues that need to be dealt with in order for the partnership to continue with its bond of trust intact. I'm too independent to be high-maintenance, but my playful and generous Leo light goes out when I don't feel appreciated.....

posted November 29, 2006 05:25 AM              

My bf has Juno in Cancer, 3rd house.

posted November 29, 2006 01:15 PM            

I want an eccentric genius. The ex I was the biggest sucker for had his sun conjunct my Juno/IC. Nobody else has ever set me on fire emotionally the way he did...which is a shame, because Aquarians don't want to settle down and I'm a Taurus who HAS to. I don't think the placement on the IC is comfortable AT ALL for me. Genius doesn't want home and family stuff, and neither do I.

posted November 29, 2006 02:37 PM              

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I have no idea on the betrayal thing. I think a guy dumping me is my utter betrayal...well, that or if he gave me an STD. That's about it.

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