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Ami Anne
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posted June 16, 2011 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone has Hades conjunct Venus
I think I did a chart with Hades conjunct Child, too

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DepTaurus
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posted June 19, 2011 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have hades in gemini 10th house

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Still_Hopeful
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posted June 19, 2011 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting
Hades and Pluto.
i have Persephone (I) conj Pluto (Him) in a synastry.

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NickiG
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posted June 19, 2011 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
still hopeful, considering the mythology, i think that might actually be a good thing. despite being kidnapped by hades, persephone still loved him....i could be wrong though

ami, do you happen to know Hades' number? i cant find it in the asteroid list of astro.com

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Ami Anne
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posted June 19, 2011 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Interesting
Hades and Pluto.
i have Persephone (I) conj Pluto (Him) in a synastry.

I have little understanding of Persephone.

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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted June 20, 2011 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NickiG, Hades is one of the uranian wotsits

it's listed over at http://www.serrenu.com in their ephemeris but there was no number

at astro.com it could be listed under their hypotheticals (or whatever the other list is apart from asteroids)

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Ami Anne
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posted June 20, 2011 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
NickiG, Hades is one of the uranian wotsits

it's listed over at http://www.serrenu.com in their ephemeris but there was no number

at astro.com it could be listed under their hypotheticals (or whatever the other list is apart from asteroids)


What do you mean Quinn--wotsits? Was that a typo lol
Do you mean Hades is Uranian like?

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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 20, 2011 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol

My brain wasn't working anywhere near fast enough I figured Nicki would kind of get what I meant.

Uranian a.k.a. transneptunian
http://www.uranian-institute.org/rbplanet.htm

Just found this site and need to have a look at it, it's got some meanings for the uranian ones

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Still_Hopeful
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posted June 20, 2011 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami
" have little understanding of Persephone."
Me Too.
being kidnapped and raped? and still love?
Beyond me.

NikkiG, The rel is not good


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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted June 20, 2011 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need to re-read up on all of these myths again but didn't venus basically set the whole thing up because persephones mother was holding on to tightly? Did he actually rape her? I know there was something about she was told not to eat anything but ate 6 pomegranate seeds and then as a consequence had to spend 6 months a year down there.

I'm pretty sure she kind of chose to be there and she was only returned half the year because her mother made the earth barren with her grieving.

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NickiG
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posted June 20, 2011 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont believe he raped her...none of the stories say anything about it, he just kidnapped her to be his wife

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Hades is so enamoured by the beauty of Persephone, he wants her for his own, so takes her by force down to his kingdom, where she becomes the Queen of the Underworld.

he is also one of the few gods that (from what i'v read) was faithful...he didnt have any mistresses or consorts

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Still_Hopeful
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posted June 20, 2011 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_Persephone

Indeed there are several version of this myph.
One of them is homer's version. (above)


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NickiG
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posted June 20, 2011 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, ok one so far that says he raped her

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Still_Hopeful
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posted June 20, 2011 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have "?"
is the asteroid named "Hades"?
I could not find.
I know Hades has a greek version, Pluto is roman. But they represent the same figure.

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NickiG
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posted June 20, 2011 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there is a uranian named hades, pluto is a planet

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Ami Anne
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posted June 20, 2011 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we need IQ here cuz he can distill the asteroid down to a single concept or idea.
That is the HARD part with asteroids.
You have to know the story intimately in order to get it's essence.
It is hard when there are complex stories with a lot of events and then different versions

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Still_Hopeful
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posted June 20, 2011 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nikki, Ami, indeed

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I'm so cappy
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posted June 06, 2013 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the difference between Hades and Pluto? Mine conjuncts MC so I'm really curious.

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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Gabby
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posted June 07, 2013 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Hades is in 8th house taurus@24.04 on fixed star Algol
S.Node is Taurus@22
Melchior taurus@26.18
Melchior was one of the 3 wise men/kings/magi who brought gifts at Jesus birth.

Not sure what to think of that?

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