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Applegreen
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posted July 25, 2011 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Applegreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have it conjunct My Sun and Mercury by one degree. I wouldn't say I'm a huge liar, in fact lying makes me really uncomfortable. But I do lie to save my skin but usually I word things in a way where it isn't a lie but could be taken a different way.

A guy I'm seeing now has asteroid Lie conjunct his Moon which conjuncts my NN.

Any thoughts or ideas? Or where is Lie (26955) in your chart?

Or could you take "lie" as "lying down" - in which case I would like that very much, haha.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 26, 2011 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Applegreen:
I have it conjunct My Sun and Mercury by one degree. I wouldn't say I'm a huge liar, in fact lying makes me really uncomfortable. But I do lie to save my skin but usually I word things in a way where it isn't a lie but could be taken a different way.

A guy I'm seeing now has asteroid Lie conjunct his Moon which conjuncts my NN.

Any thoughts or ideas? Or where is Lie (26955) in your chart?

Or could you take "lie" as "lying down" - in which case I would like that very much, haha.


Fascinating Apple
Do YOU have to struggle not to lie?
As far as you and him this topic will be addressed by the relationship.
How it plays out I don't know.

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vesta
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posted July 26, 2011 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I believe it is about deciet others say they think it is about lying down.

here is an article I found about asteroid lie : http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/tag/asteroid-lie/

also look at asteroid bilk and swindle
IQ had commented on a previous post about lie and swindle but I can't find it now.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 26, 2011 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Vesta

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Applegreen
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posted July 26, 2011 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Applegreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the responses!

Ami- If at all possible, I like to tell the truth, but if it's not a truth that will be welcome... hmm, for example, telling my mom that I didn't apply for a job she wanted me to apply for, I would say, "someone else more qualified got the job." which is true- but I'm not telling the entire truth. When I was little, I remember asking my mom if I could go to a "Katie's House" to play- and it was the name of my boyfriend's sister. lol. I don't think it is a struggle, it's more I don't want to upset anybody with a truth I don't think they can handle properly. I find ways to avoid the complete truth until it reveals itself naturally. If that makes any sense... But don't get me wrong, I value honesty more than anything >_<. I only lie if I feel it is necessary.

One of my best friend's was born a day after the guy I'm seeing now, and his Lie is even more exact on my NN, but his Moon isn't there.

So I'm very curious about how Moon/Lie works!

And thanks for the article Vesta I will take a look!

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Ami Anne
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posted July 26, 2011 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon lie would be deeper than yours.The moon is our deepest part.It would be more inherent to him that to you.
Thanks for being so honest btw

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vesta
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posted July 26, 2011 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Lie conjunct moon could be that he lies about his feelings so as not to hurt others,
or he even lies to himself about his feelings. maybe something along those lines but look at the aspects it makes.

I never paid much attention before until recently but look at the harmonics.

start with the 9th (truth) see what aspects it makes then investigate those aspects.
I found this to be very useful.

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vesta
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posted July 26, 2011 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I recently looked at the 127th harmonic and posted in astrology forum about this.
I would say read that post see if it makes sense to you then look at the 127th.
It may give deeper insight as to what he is lying to hiself about if that is the case. It could even be his Mother (moon)
It may be important if it aspects
(conjuncts) your natal planets.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 26, 2011 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vesta:

Lie conjunct moon could be that he lies about his feelings so as not to hurt others,
or he even lies to himself about his feelings. maybe something along those lines but look at the aspects it makes.

I never paid much attention before until recently but look at the harmonics.

start with the 9th (truth) see what aspects it makes then investigate those aspects.
I found this to be very useful.


Do you mean the 9th house ? Would you look and see what aspects the Asteroid makes to a house? I never knew that

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vesta
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posted July 26, 2011 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

No, look at the ninth Harmonic

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posted July 26, 2011 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Applegreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the insight Ami and vesta

He has a way with words and when he is kind it doesn't seem very genuine for some reason. Though that might just be me being cynical lol. I can see Lie being related to his mother, he has had a rough childhood.

And vesta- I'll have to read about harmonics. I'm not familiar with it. But thanks for the tip

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posted July 29, 2011 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Applegreen:
Thanks for the responses!

Ami- If at all possible, I like to tell the truth, but if it's not a truth that will be welcome... hmm, for example, telling my mom that I didn't apply for a job she wanted me to apply for, I would say, "someone else more qualified got the job." which is true- but I'm not telling the entire truth. When I was little, I remember asking my mom if I could go to a "Katie's House" to play- and it was the name of my boyfriend's sister. lol. I don't think it is a struggle, it's more I don't want to upset anybody with a truth I don't think they can handle properly. I find ways to avoid the complete truth until it reveals itself naturally. If that makes any sense... But don't get me wrong, I value honesty more than anything >_<. I only lie if I feel it is necessary.

One of my best friend's was born a day after the guy I'm seeing now, and his Lie is even more exact on my NN, but his Moon isn't there.

So I'm very curious about how Moon/Lie works!

And thanks for the article Vesta I will take a look!


I'm exactly like you. I consider myself an honest person but have pretty much done the exact same things as this when I was younger.

Lie doesn't conjunct anything for me, nor make aspects to major planets.

LIE square APHRODITE (0.31)
LIE square VESTA (0.20)
LIE trine NESSUS (0.37)
LIE square BRIDE (0.10)
LIE sesquiquadrate my PANDORA/DC (0.14/0.38)

In regards to your Moon/Lie/NN situation I am not sure how that would play out. How does it play our with your friend? (The Lie/NN conjunction anyway) ... do you feel that?

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Applegreen
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posted July 29, 2011 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Applegreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wonder what it is that makes us this way? Hehe.


As for the relationship with my friend, we're actually not close anymore. LOL.
(Who just realized that she lied <-- This person LOL)

We were best friends in high school and the beginning of college, but then we had a fall out when he and his girlfriend broke up, and I took his ex-girlfriend's side. It's been about 3 or 4 years since that happened.

I think he valued our friendship a lot. I actually confessed to him in high school, but he said that he valued my friendship too much he didn't want us to lose what we already had. (Aqua sun) But who really knows......

I often went to his house, and his parents knew me well. We always hung out together on the weekends.

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MertSerimer
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posted August 01, 2011 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have exact conjunction of Neptune and Lie asteroid.

Is my spiritual side a lie?

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popcorn
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posted August 01, 2011 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you westa for the good articel.

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