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BlackSeraph
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posted October 06, 2011 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got something that's making me wonder a bit.

Black Moon Lilith in my chart is at 24 Cancer 25' (according to astro.com), in 8th house. While doing some investigation, I found my Lilith is:
- Conjunct Lie at 23 Cancer 23'
- Conjunct Mnemosyne at 24 Cancer 01'
- Sextile Karma at 25 Taurus 04' (with the Karma/Algol conjunction)
- Trine Dejanira (retrograde) at 24 Pisces 38'
- Opposition Juno (retrograde) at 25 Capricorn 06'
- And though I feel this may be slightly out of orb, Lucifer (retrograde) 22 Capricorn 22. May not count as an opposition, but felt I should add that.

Background:
Haven't had much luck with women (just about every interest or interaction has ended disastrously somehow), and lost my mother at a young age (I was 11) after 18 days in the ICU (ironically they felt she had recovered enough to move her out of the ICU the day she passed on. Left in a single breath, I'm told, and earlier that day she had had a vision of a great speckled bird.) Consequently, my dad was overprotective of me growing up since then, sought to remarry once but that woman wound up being a serious psychopath and he ended that... and to this day, he drives me up the wall in some of my interactions with him. I'm an only child as well.

On an esoteric level, I do see glimpses of what I feel are past lives, most of which I was either darkened somehow or involved conflict of some kind, often war, and a sense of misfortune with lovers in a few of them as well. I've on occasion have had pause, questioning some of these memories. Mnemosyne and Lie with Black Moon Lilith may be a good indicator why I should...

In this life I've taken on more of a study of the occult and metaphysics, particularly astrology and some tarot, and meditation. Interesting imagery in some of my meditations as well.

One final check on my Draconic chart, and I find that draconic Lucifer is conjunct my natal Black Moon Lilith. Not sure about the other draconic aspects offhand.

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Stawr
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posted October 07, 2011 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's really interesting thanks for sharing


I have osc.Lilith (not sure what that one is but that's what astro.com calls it) 21 deg. in Scorpio house 6
conjunting Juno rx and Lilith (i) as astro.com calls it.

also Lilith (i) 22 deg in Scorpio house 6 sextiles my Saturn


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BlackSeraph
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posted November 29, 2011 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I've researched more Asteroids, I'm getting a VERY... um... interesting picture with my Black Moon Lilith:

Focusing on the conjunctions for this post as I'm going off a more textual list at the moment...

Conjunctions to Black Moon Lilith (24 Can 24'56") - Updated List 11/29/2011
10370 Hylonome 22 Can 10'19"

125 Liberatrix 22 Can 35'58" - Strikes me as something about liberation...

730 Athanasia 23 Can 1'44" - According to http://markandrewholmes.com/athanasia.html , seems to have to do with immortality, some permanence, lasts forever, cannot be taken away from you.

3998 Tezuka 23 Can 12'50" - Named for Osamu Tezuka. Japanese cartoonist, manga artist, animator, producer, activist, and also studied medicine but never practiced.

26955 Lie 23 Can 12'50" - Covered in original post above. Per http://markandrewholmes.com/lie.html, appears to represent Lies and Falsehood, Deception.

9133 d'Arrest 23 Can 23'48" - Per http://markandrewholmes.com/d_arrest.html, seems to involve Arrest (incarceration, cardiac arrest, etc), to hold on to, to capture, social conservatism or backwardsness, possibly the arrest of motion or operation.

57 Mnemosyne 24 Can 0'49" - Mother of the nine Muses (with Zeus as the father) and daughter of Gaia/Uranus. Represents memory in Greek mythology.

2078 Nanking 25 Can 1'36" - Nanking, the infamous city in China. Captured by the Japanese Empire during World War II, and led rise to the Rape of Nanking, where countless people were slaughtered, raped, and otherwise abused.

2041 Lancelot 25 Can 2'30" - One of the knights of the Round Table, possibly the best known one. Aided Arthur in the quest for the Holy Grail, and was instrumental in the fall of the Round Table/Camelot/demise of Arthur when he had the affair with Lady Guinevere, Arthur's wife.

8813 Leviathan 25 Can 12'53" - Biblical beast, evokes images of a great watery serpent in modern lore thanks to video games (particularly the Final Fantasy series). According to http://markandrewholmes.com/leviathan.html, relates to "monsters, especially those rising from the human psyche."

Fixed Star Procyon - approx 25 Can 29' in my chart (estimated for 1978) - Per www.astrologycom.com/fixedstars.html: "Wealth, fame, good fortune; sharp mind, willpower, stubbornness; violence, sudden success then disaster, occult, politics, dissipation; death by drowning; love of dogs; dogbites". One of the Behenian Stars

1094 Siberia 26 Can 54'46" - Remote section of Russia, gets very cold, and back in the Soviet days people sometimes were punished by being sent here. Brutal winters as I recall, and experiences permafrost. Not a place I'd like to live.

Jupiter 27 Can 29'56" - Not an asteroid, but close enough to be considered conjunct for my tastes. As this is in Cancer in 8th house, seems to deal quite a bit with sex, also other people's money if I'm not mistaken. Conjunct Black Moon Lilith in this location, would seem to indicate to me an expansion of the darker or more hidden side of sexuality, or exploration of the occult perhaps? (I certainly do enough of that just researching these asteroids.)

And to add the last couple are more conjunct Jupiter, but with the Jupiter/Lilith conjunction, likely relevant.

774 Armor 27 Can 58'43" - Implies armor, protection, defensiveness to me.

2340 Hathor 28 Can 2'31" - Egyptian goddess of Love, Beauty, Music, Motherhood, Joy. One of the most important of the goddesses. Also was a patron goddess of miners in some traditions, and also greeted the dead in others. Sometimes represented as a cow. Associated with Bast (Ubasti), and identified with the Greek Aphrodite and Roman Venus.

This all seems to be painting a very interesting picture at this point. I will say as far as the Armor aspect with the Jupiter side of Jupiter/BM Lilith, I do tend to be guarded as to who I show affection to, especially after all the burnings I've had in the last couple years. The d'Arrest, Lie, Mnemosyne and Lancelot aspects together also paint a very interesting picture just with themselves together. Definitely strikes of betrayal, although it sounds like I have to be careful not to be the one doing the betraying or facilitation of betrayal. And the Leviathan with that... hmm.

...Just the d'Arrest/Lilith alone, and this in Cancer 8th House, I hope that doesn't mean I die of a heart attack during sex! ...That would be very inconvenient.

Could also mean some kind of potential legal problem involving sexuality, especially considering Karma on Algol sextile to this. Also with the Leviathan/Nanking conjunction... Hell of a stellium.

Procyon/Jupiter (not retrograde) should help this out a bit in my case, along with the Jupiter-Hathor conjunction. Jupiter's also sextile my North Node, and that has it's own set of aspects (Pyrrhus/Liberati/Achilles/etc conjunct NN, so sextile Jupiter-BMLilith).

I know... "...like spices." And just like stir-fry, I like my spices (curry powder especially).

This opens up more questions than are answered it seems.

(edit: fixed links)

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