posted October 28, 2011 04:23 PM            

I wanted to know where I can find out more about these asteroids and their meanings in our natal charts. Here is mine with a few asteroids in there.

posted October 31, 2011 01:40 PM            

The best way to learn about Asteroids is to be look up the Archetype and Myths in a source like Wiki, then see if any such Asteroid conjuncts your Sun, Ascendant or Moon. Such Asteroids have the maximum impact.

I have written three small articles about general Asteroids, they will help.

1. http://www.tamsoft.co.in/psychic.html
2. http://www.tamsoft.co.in/astrology2.html
3. http://www.tamsoft.co.in/pogson.html

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posted November 05, 2011 11:59 AM            

Thule 7 deg Libra house 5
Squares Venus
(Thule sounds really interesting but also racist. I wonder how Thule plays out in racist, masons,and skinhead kids chart...heck even Hitlers chart)

Atlantis 24 deg in Cancer house 3
Opposes Saturn
Squares Mars

posted November 05, 2011 12:11 PM            

if i am not mistaken Nephtys was Isis` sister; in one version of the myth she once tricked osiris into sleeping with her (while disguising as Isis), and Anubis was conceived (though there are other myths how and by whom Anubis was conceived).

She also was helping Isis tracking and finding all the pieces of Osiris, after her husband (and brother) Set had killed Osiris and cut into 7 pieces (was it 7 or 14? I do not remember).

Anyway, with Nepthys conjunct Sun I would check for other Egyptian asteroid. Maybe there is a theme.

ISIS, OSIRIS, GIZA; SEKHMET, PTAH, SPHINX, MEMPHIS, HORUS, UBASTI (Bastet) for example.

posted November 05, 2011 09:17 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BP,

if i am not mistaken Nephtys was Isis` sister; in one version of the myth she once tricked osiris into sleeping with her (while disguising as Isis), and Anubis was conceived (though there are other myths how and by whom Anubis was conceived).

She also was helping Isis tracking and finding all the pieces of Osiris, after her husband (and brother) Set had killed Osiris and cut into 7 pieces (was it 7 or 14? I do not remember).

Anyway, with Nepthys conjunct Sun I would check for other Egyptian asteroid. Maybe there is a theme.

ISIS, OSIRIS, GIZA; SEKHMET, PTAH, SPHINX, MEMPHIS, HORUS, UBASTI (Bastet) for example.

do you believe in past lives?

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None of the others conjunct my sun moon or ascendant; the closest I found was Ubasti conjunct my North Node.

posted November 06, 2011 03:40 AM            

if a pattern comes up, it might be an indication of a past life line in Egypt, (of course could also indicate interest for Egypt or depending on the asteroids coming up certain occult / mystical characteristics).

For past lives I like to see aspects of the asteroids to Moon, Saturn, KARMA, SN and ruler of the 12th house, though.

In my own chart I have a certain pattern around 7-9 degrees, involving the Egyptians.

ISIS 8 Cap
OSIRIS 7 Cap
(Venus 6 Cap)

HORUS 8 Pisces
ECHNATON 7 Pisces
Ceres 9 Pisces

aspecting
PALLAS 9 Aquarius

ATLANTIS 8 Sag
Neptune 9 Sag
(NN 10 Sag)
ASC 7 Sag
(Angel 7 Sag)

Pluto 9 Libra
MEMPHIS 8 Libra

I tend to attract people who have important points / planets on these degrees or even Egyptian asteroids themselves.
As a matter of fact I was just checking a synastry with a guy, and turns out he ALSO has a 7-9 degree pattern with Egyptian asteroids.

I was only checking for Isis, osiris, Memphis, Giza, Horus, sphinx,(Atllantis), Sekhmet, Ptah, Anubis

posted November 06, 2011 04:19 PM            

Telephus R 3 deg in Virgo house 4
Sexitle Jupiter Cancer
(telepathy...hmmm...it would be really interesting to see how that one plays out in synastry)

Karma 29 deg in Aquarius house 10

posted November 06, 2011 04:26 PM            

Anyway, I haven´t really seen it that much at play; but maybe I need to check more thoroughly.

What I noticed in the case of telepathy in synastry were strong tight aspects of:

Psyche and Pallas (especially to each other, Moon, Mercury, Neptune, Pluto and ASC)
And of course the usual ones with neptune.

I think IQ stated that Pallas conjunct Moon is one of the strongest indication of potential telepathic contact.

posted November 06, 2011 08:31 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yeah, you would think that TELEPHUS plays a big role in telepathy, wouldn´t you? (though the asteroid is actaully named after a hero in the Trojan war, as told by Homer, I think).

Anyway, I haven´t really seen it that much at play; but maybe I need to check more thoroughly.

What I noticed in the case of telepathy in synastry were strong tight aspects of:

Psyche and Pallas (especially to each other, Moon, Mercury, Neptune, Pluto and ASC)
And of course the usual ones with neptune.

I think IQ stated that Pallas conjunct Moon is one of the strongest indication of potential telepathic contact.

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posted November 06, 2011 10:09 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
If you already have one tight conjunction to the "major players", I would take the other major aspects within tight orb 1-2 degrees at most, prefereably one degree orb, into account as well.

if a pattern comes up, it might be an indication of a past life line in Egypt, (of course could also indicate interest for Egypt or depending on the asteroids coming up certain occult / mystical characteristics).

For past lives I like to see aspects of the asteroids to Moon, Saturn, KARMA, SN and ruler of the 12th house, though.

In my own chart I have a certain pattern around 7-9 degrees, involving the Egyptians.

ISIS 8 Cap
OSIRIS 7 Cap
(Venus 6 Cap)

HORUS 8 Pisces
ECHNATON 7 Pisces
Ceres 9 Pisces

aspecting
PALLAS 9 Aquarius

ATLANTIS 8 Sag
Neptune 9 Sag
(NN 10 Sag)
ASC 7 Sag
(Angel 7 Sag)

Pluto 9 Libra
MEMPHIS 8 Libra

I tend to attract people who have important points / planets on these degrees or even Egyptian asteroids themselves.
As a matter of fact I was just checking a synastry with a guy, and turns out he ALSO has a 7-9 degree pattern with Egyptian asteroids.

I was only checking for Isis, osiris, Memphis, Giza, Horus, sphinx,(Atllantis), Sekhmet, Ptah, Anubis

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Most of the other Egyptian asteroids do make major aspects to other inner planets in my charts, just not the sun moon or ascendant. I think there aren't any really tight orbs though. So I don't really count those. I think the Egyptian stuff isn't really a big theme in my chart, which kinda makes sense to me because I've never really been big on Ancient Egypt or felt any particular resonance there - at least not more than anyone else.

I think I tend to have more substantial hits with the Arthurian asteroids, not sure...

Those aside, Atlantis is conjunct my Moon-Pluto, right on top of Spica.

Then again I would've sworn that I've seen more than one 'Atlantis' mentioned and that one is in Pisces and I have nothing in that sign, so...

posted November 07, 2011 01:39 AM            

I find that very interesting.

There is a guy, who is not in my direct environment, but whenever we are in the same city, it often ends up with me hearing his voice inside my head; also when we talked it seemed that I was the only one who could easily pick on what he was trying to get across, while most others were standing around clueless (He was having some "mind-leaping" going on at that occastion; but I guess I am usied to this thought of thinking as I tend to do it myself).

We have:
My Psyche conjunct his Psyche and Pallas (the conj. to his Pallas is exact, Psyche-Psyche is one degree) - sextile my Sun/Mercury-conjunction.

his Mercury also conjuncts my Neptune exact

(my Sun/Mercury-conjunction also conjuncts his Sun/Moon/MC-conjunction within 3 degrees and some closer).

But especially that Psyche-Pallas/Psyche I found interesting. It is in Aquarius, so that electric vibe probably makes sense.

On top of that ever since I have met him, I have been repeatedly dreaming of him, often it was dreams where I was given an information by him (in the dream), which later turned out to be true (though I could not have actually have known this - as I said, he is not even in my circle of friends).

posted November 07, 2011 01:43 AM            

I like to check for tight degrees with asteroids as well, preferably 1 degree.
But I think Parsifal one degree off the ASC is definitely a big one (in terms of asteroids).
If there is already one such "hit" I would also check for other tight aspects (even if not hitting Sun, Moon or ASC) to see if a pattern stands out.

posted November 07, 2011 06:20 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BP,

I like to check for tight degrees with asteroids as well, preferably 1 degree.
But I think Parsifal one degree off the ASC is definitely a big one (in terms of asteroids).
If there is already one such "hit" I would also check for other tight aspects (even if not hitting Sun, Moon or ASC) to see if a pattern stands out.

I have ARTHUR exactly on my Sun/Moon-mp and Antivertex;

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Alright, I'll go back through the Arthurian ones and see what, if any, tight aspects there are...

There's just basic stuff, nothing really to write home about. I'm sticking to the 1 degree orb or less, here and only aspects to luminaries and planets :

posted November 07, 2011 07:22 AM            

I myself have Atlantis conjunct ASC and NN, and, which always makes me laugh a little, conjunct Neptune AND Poseidon, opposing Varuna.
Wouldn`t ONE object relating / or associated with water have been enough?

BTW when I was a kid I drowned and was saved in the last moment.

posted November 07, 2011 07:35 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW it seems that several Lindalanders have significant aspects with Atlantis. At least I seem to recall that.

I myself have Atlantis conjunct ASC and NN, and, which always makes me laugh a little, conjunct Neptune AND Poseidon, opposing Varuna.
Wouldn`t ONE object relating / or associated with water have been enough?

BTW when I was a kid I drowned and was saved in the last moment.

(the brother of my mother drowned and died, and both my brothers nearly drowned, but were saved in time; my family has a clear Atlantis / Varuna-theme, with Atlantis being conjunct an angle and Varuna aspecting an angle, Sun or Moon. Always intrigues me to see this).

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I checked Poseidon and it does basically nothing in my chart - over in Pisces,opposes my Venus and Vertex, three degree orb. Sirius is about 2 degrees away from my Mars...

It'd probably just be easier to include the asteroid chart...btw the Poseidon you see by my moon is the transneptunian, not the actual asteroid in case you get confused by that...

posted November 07, 2011 08:37 AM            

Regarding the Arthurians, have you also checked Camelot, Stonehenge, Ireland, Knight and so on?

I found an interesting pattern in my chart, though not on Sun, Moon or ASC, with
Stonehenge, Knight and Vesta (and Eva. lol) all on 1 Capricorn, Tristan, Boda on 3 Capricorn square Isolda on 3 Aries.

found the Sabians kind interesting as well.

Stonehenge: 1.5 Cap
Vesta: 1.2 Cap
Knight: 1.5 Cap
Eva: 1.5 Cap

Three Rose Windows In A Gothic Church, One Damaged By War

Sindbad: 2.4 Cap
A Human Soul, In Its Eagerness For New Experiences, Seeks Embodiment

Tristan: 3.4 Cap
Boda: 3.3 Cap
A Group Of People Outfitting A Large Canoe At The Start Of A Journey By Water

Isolda: 3.1 Aries
Two Lovers Strolling On A Secluded Walk

IC: 4.5 Aries
A Triangle With Wings
(LOL Isolda was the female part of a triangle )

It almost seems to tell a story.

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I also checked the degrees in the Draco chart, as some say they relate to past life stuff as well.

Vesta: 21.1 Aries
Stonehenge: 21.4 Aries
Knight: 21.4 Aries
Eva: 21.4 Aries
(conjuunct my tropical Chiron and opposing my DNA)

The Gate To The Garden Of All Fulfilled Desires

Sindbad: 22.3 Aries
A Pregnant Woman In Light Summer Dress

Boda: 23.3 Aries
Tristan: 23.3 Aries
Blown Inward By The Wind, The Curtains Of An Open Window Take The Shape Of A Cornucopia

IC: 24.4 Cancer
A Willful Man Is Overshadowed By A Descent Of Superior Power

Isolda: 23.0 Cancer
A Woman And Two Men Castaways On A Small Island Of The South Seas

posted November 07, 2011 09:57 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What is that for a chart? My eyes almost hurt from looking at it, but it looks intriguing!

Regarding the Arthurians, have you also checked Camelot, Stonehenge, Ireland, Knight and so on?

I found an interesting pattern in my chart, though not on Sun, Moon or ASC, with
Stonehenge, Knight and Vesta (and Eva. lol) all on 1 Capricorn, Tristan, Boda on 3 Capricorn square Isolda on 3 Aries.

found the Sabians kind interesting as well.

Stonehenge: 1.5 Cap
Vesta: 1.2 Cap
Knight: 1.5 Cap
Eva: 1.5 Cap

Three Rose Windows In A Gothic Church, One Damaged By War

Sindbad: 2.4 Cap
A Human Soul, In Its Eagerness For New Experiences, Seeks Embodiment

Tristan: 3.4 Cap
Boda: 3.3 Cap
A Group Of People Outfitting A Large Canoe At The Start Of A Journey By Water

Isolda: 3.1 Aries
Two Lovers Strolling On A Secluded Walk

IC: 4.5 Aries
A Triangle With Wings
(LOL Isolda was the female part of a triangle )

It almost seems to tell a story.

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I went through all the Arthurians I've seen listed here and on other boards, in the post I made before my last one. Barring Boda, which I didn't know about till just now...but it makes no significant aspects in my chart, the orbs are too big on the ones it does make. Same thing for the other ones I omitted like Stonehenge, Ireland...

As far as the Sabians go, it's all over the place and they contradict one another.

The Parsifal one :

PHASE 310 (AQUARIUS 10°): A MAN WHO HAD FOR A TIME BECOME THE EMBODIMENT OF A POPULAR IDEAL IS MADE TO REALIZE THAT AS A PERSON HE IS NOT THIS IDEAL.

The one for my Ascendant (only a degree away) :
PHASE 309 (AQUARIUS 9°): A FLAG IS SEEN TURNING INTO AN EAGLE.

KEYNOTE: The dynamic incorporation of new social values in individuals who exemplify the spiritual potential and greatest significance of these values.

This symbol nearly duplicates the one for Sagittarius 12°, but in this five-fold sequence it has a somewhat different meaning — especially since the last term of the mysterious transformation (i.e. the crowing of the eagle in chanticleer's fashion) is omitted. All that is implied here is the vitalization of a powerful symbol, its embodiment in a living reality, i.e. in a person able to fly in consciousness to the highest spiritual realm. The archetype is given living substance and wings. The Image has become a Power.

This fourth stage symbol, as usual, gives us a technical suggestion. To "see" the new archetype, to perceive the new standard of value with one's mind is not enough. The seer must become the doer. The impersonal is dynamized and brought into focus. We have here the ACTING OUT of the vision.

The one for Carlisle (which is right on my MC line) : PHASE 242 (SAGITTARIUS 2°): WHITE-CAPPED WAVES DISPLAY THE POWER OF WIND OVER SEA.

The one for my Chart Ruler (just a few degrees away from Carlisle) : PHASE 237 (SCORPIO 27°): A MILITARY BAND MARCHES NOISILY ON THROUGH THE CITY STREETS.

Lilith (conjunct chart ruler) :PHASE 235 (SCORPIO 25°): AN X-RAY PHOTOGRAPH.

Guinevere (conjunct chart ruler) : PHASE 236 (SCORPIO 26°): AMERICAN INDIANS MAKING CAMP AFTER MOVING INTO A NEW TERRITORY.

KEYNOTE: The capacity to acquire a knowledge of the structural factors in all existence.

Sabian for Arthur (which trines my Moon) : PHASE 84 (GEMINI 24°): CHILDREN SKATING OVER A FROZEN VILLAGE POND.

Sabian for my Moon : PHASE 204 (LIBRA 24°): A BUTTERFLY WITH A THIRD WING ON ITS LEFT SIDE.

posted November 07, 2011 10:07 AM            

2.5 Capricorn!

I mean how are the odds that this one, too, would fall right onto this stellium at the beginning of Capricorn?
Amazing.

Well, for me at least. I tend to get a tiny bit enthusiastic seeing these things.

It could be that there was a theme of being extradited / expelled due to war probably in your chart as well. At least it seems to indicate the need to start a new somewhere else (your Guinevere Sabian).

posted November 07, 2011 10:50 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
LOL I had never checked CARLISLE before.
Wanna know where it is?

2.5 Capricorn!

I mean how are the odds that this one, too, would fall right onto this stellium at the beginning of Capricorn?
Amazing.

Well, for me at least. I tend to get a tiny bit enthusiastic seeing these things.

It could be that there was a theme of being extradited / expelled due to war probably in your chart as well. At least it seems to indicate the need to start a new somewhere else (your Guinevere Sabian).

Anyway, just wanted to say Boda is not an Arthurian asteroid, it is the Spanish word for wedding, I just remembered that it was part of that cluster and therefore mentioned it.

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Yeah, I hadn't seen Boda mentioned in connection to the other Arthurian legends but to be honest I know next to nothing about those myths anyway other than what I just read in the last few hours - so when you mentioned Boda I figured it must have something to do with the Arthurian asteroids and looked it up in connection to them.

posted November 07, 2011 10:56 AM            

It is the Sabian of my Pallas, and somehow I always saw it differently, like someone who is being put onto a bit of a pedestal by others, and then gets demoted, because the real Self cannot keep up with the idealization put onto them.

But I like your interpretation better. And it definitely makes most sense in relation to the Parsifal story.

posted November 07, 2011 11:06 AM            

Your Parsifal: 9 Aquarius
your Pallas: 7 Leo

My Parsifal: 11 Leo
my Pallas: 9 Aquarius