posted October 29, 2011 01:04 PM            

His Pallas is almost exact on my Chiron.

Again, do these conjunctions matter?

posted October 30, 2011 05:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
How tight is very tight?

Under 2 or even one degree?

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posted October 30, 2011 05:52 AM            

The best stuff I`ve read on this was being written by IQ here strewn over the board.
But you can simply take the symbolism of each asteroid / planet and interprete it for yourself.

The Juno to Venus and Eros sounds very romantic and erotic to me, like there is a good deal of romantic attraction.
Pallas refers more to mental activity, even higher (spiritual) form of communication; so it might be possible to communicate without words.

I noticed that everytime I was having those "flashes of thoughts" and ideas that hit me from nowwhere, Tr Pallas was either hitting something significant in the natal or some big player was transiting my Pallas.

posted October 30, 2011 06:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I think that is a tough one.
Not really sure about that one either.
do you have an intuitive understanding of what he is attracted to, his style to relate, what he finds beautiful, his creative potential etc.?

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posted October 30, 2011 06:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I think that is a tough one.
Not really sure about that one either.
do you have an intuitive understanding of what he is attracted to, his style to relate, what he finds beautiful, his creative potential etc.?

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posted October 30, 2011 06:09 AM            

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What are his Amor, Eros and Valentine aspecting within 2 degrees in your chart (I am talking mainly about your planets and angles here)?[/B]

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I haven't looked at Valentine and I take Amor to be Eros. Both his Eros and his Psyche fall in my 7/8th cusp. I only have Pluto in there.
Not a very tight conjunction though.

posted October 30, 2011 06:39 AM            

Eros was the Greek God of love, and actually one of the primordial gods, which was in existence at the beginning of creation.

Later on in the Roman empire Eros got "tamed", by making him "just" a son of Venus, and even more though by splitting him up into two gods: Amor and Cupido.
Cupido is the playful, more lustoriented side, and Amor the loving, gentle side of Eros.

And yes, Psyche is the counterpart; interestingly Psyche was a mortal and was being made divine by her love union with Eros.

Does his Eros make a tight trine to your planets, or even a square?

posted October 30, 2011 06:42 AM            

Karma 3811

Eros 433
Cupido 763
Lust 4386
Aphrodite 1388

posted October 30, 2011 06:49 AM            

I have to look for trines or squares of his Eros with my planets and angles; I didn't.

What is the significance of Valentine and Amor as separated from Eros??

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No, Amor isn`t the same asteroid as Eros. Amor has the number 1221 and Valentine 447.

Eros was the Greek God of love, and actually one of the primordial gods, which was in existence at the beginning of creation.

Later on in the Roman empire Eros got "tamed", by making him "just" a son of Venus, and even more though by splitting him up into two gods: Amor and Cupido.
Cupido is the playful, more lustoriented side, and Amor the loving, gentle side of Eros.

And yes, Psyche is the counterpart; interestingly Psyche was a mortal and was being made divine by her love union with Eros.

Does his Eros make a tight trine to your planets, or even a square?

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posted October 30, 2011 08:03 AM            

Hesiod has this genealogy:

Chaos (Void, Air, arche) - genderless (sometimes poetically female) Erebus (Darkness) – male and Nyx (Night) – female Aether (Light) – male and Hemera (Day) – female

Gaia (Earth) – female Uranus (Heaven) – male
The Ourea (Mountains) – male
Pontus (Water, the Seas) – male

Tartarus (the great stormy Hellpit, which was seen as both a deity and the personification) – male
Eros (Procreation) - male

It may not have been the VERY first, but it clearly preceded all the Titans and olympic gods,w hich became the model for astrology: Jupiter, Pluto, Neptune etc. are all olympic Gods.
the exceptions are Saturn and Uranus, which preceded the Jupiter-generation, Uranus being grandfather, Saturn being father of Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto. Saturn was also a Titan.

"What is the significance of Valentine and Amor as separated from Eros?? "
Eros is the creative force of the universe; in terms of love it signifies the spark of erotic and romantic attraction.
it`s passion that strives to create.

It rules erotic attraction.

Amor is a feeling of unconditional love, supportive, caring, forgiving, compassionate.
I am not totally sure about this asteroid. It seems very significant, but I am not totally convinced it is strictly platonic. There is of course the selfless, caring love-vibe, tenderness and pure affection for someone else, but at the same time it does not seem to be strictly un-erotic.
Amor is soulful love, that enhances the depth of any sexual relationship.
but here the sexual relationship does not exist for sexual attraction, but because of the soulful loving vibration.

Valentine is about romantic love. IQ described it as a signal for "true love".
Well, personally I am hesitant to give that meaning to just one asteroid, but it certainly creates a very loving, romantic, enchanting vibe.

It seems that Valentine and Eros are a bit more effective than Amor and Psyche in terms of attracting people to each other; but Amor and Psyche are still pretty strong.

Along with Juno (desire to commit) I would always pay attention to these four: Valentine, Eros, Amor, Psyche.

Personally I also like to look at Ceres; though Ceres is not romantic per se, it does add a nurturing, caring vibration to an interconnection. it`s an unbelievable emotional warmth and support that is generated.
It is a bit of a female counterpart to Jupiter`s male support; I see it also as the "female protectiveness".
Interstingly Ceres and Jupiter actually were having a child, Proserpina/ Persephone, who was becoming wife of Pluto and queen of the Underworld. And Pluto-Proserpina is one pairing that very often pops up in synastries of couples that are often referred to as soulmates.

It is an intense pairing though, that highlights the need to grow up, transform, take a leap of faith, and leave the past behind, which of course also means that certain things of the past need to be lost, to enter a new stage of development.

posted October 30, 2011 08:31 AM            

And no I don't think Eros, Amor, and Valentine really differ. This sounds like hair-splitting to me. (Apologies to everyone who is taking asteroids seriously. That's just my opinion.)

posted October 30, 2011 11:10 AM            

Astrological symbolism is reflected through the mythology of its symbols.
Look up Mars or Venus for example; the astrological symbolism is reflecting the mythological background. On top of that it has to be researched and proved by experience of course.

Same goes for the asteroid. Understand the mythology and you will probably understand its astrological implications.

There is of course no (scientific) EVIDENCE that anything of it works just as I say, as there is no EVIDENCE that astrology works at all.

And if you reread what I wrote in my previous posts you see that I suggested possible lines of interpretations.

But of course if you think the differentiation is just hairsplitting, it will not be of much use to you. (my stance on this is different though, and I am convinced, that if you put it all together and apply the very same meaning to all of them, you will definitely get wrong results).

This approach to asteroid interpretation is the only I can suggest, so if it doesn`t vibe with you, you need to ask someone else.

I can only share my thoughts and experiences, and they obviously do not resonate with you, when it comes to the asteroids.

posted October 31, 2011 01:33 PM            

PALLAS is more subtle, it will help you see through any illusions (using your inner eye) about his true desires.

Tight Asteroid conjunctions do matter once the planetary connections are strongly established.

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