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Ami Anne
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posted November 19, 2011 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am doing a chart with these combos. That is why I have them here, for my Asteroid Buddie

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posted November 19, 2011 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Ixion seems to represent the self run amok wantonness, action with little thought or morality

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posted November 19, 2011 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Ixion seems to represent the self run amok wantonness, action with little thought or morality. Second house? Maybe eccentric spending.

In Greek mythology, Ixion was one of the Lapiths, a king of Thessaly, and a son of Antion or Phlegyas. Pirithous was his son (or stepson, with Zeus being his father). Ixion married Dia, a daughter of Deioneus (or Eioneus) and promised his father-in-law a valuable present. However, he did not pay the bride price, so Deioneus stole some of Ixion’s horses in retaliation. Ixion concealed his resentment and invited his father-in-law to a feast at Larissa. When Deioneus arrived, Ixion pushed him into a bed of burning coals and wood. The neighboring princes were so offended by this act of treachery (and violation of Xenia) that they refused to perform the rituals that would cleanse Ixion of his guilt. Thereafter, Ixion lived as an outlaw and shunned. By killing his father-in-law, Ixion was reckoned the first man guilty of kin-slaying in Greek mythology. That alone would warrant him a terrible punishment.

However, Zeus had pity on Ixion and brought him to Olympus and introduced him at the table of the gods. Instead of being grateful, Ixion grew lustful for Hera, Zeus’s wife. Zeus found out about his intentions (either because Hera told him or because of his own efforts)and investigated the matter. Zeus made a cloud in the shape of Hera, which became known as Nephele, and tricked Ixion into coupling with it. From the union of Ixion and the cloud came the race of Centaurs (hence their being called Ixionidae). However, another myth asserts that the founder of the Centaur race was not Ixion, but a zoophiliac outcast named Centaurus, a son of Apollo and brother of Lapithus.

Ixion was expelled from Olympus and blasted with a thunderbolt. Zeus ordered Hermes to bind Ixion to a wheel that was always spinning. Therefore, Ixion is bound to a burning wheel for all eternity in Tartarus. The story of Ixion is told by Diodorus, Pindar, Virgil in Georgics 4 and Aeneid 6, and by Ovid in Metamorphoses 12.

Source—wikipedia

Themes: there is his first failure to deliver (the gift); in doing so betrayal of the family and expected code of behavior; failure to accept responsibility for the betrayal and then anger/temper/retaliation (murder). Finally equally important there is failure to be grateful for the second chance, to seize the opportunity given, the elevation in possible status—instead stubbornly following his lust/lasciviousness only to be banished once again and this time in a way where he is tightly bound (not free), incapable of moving or roaming. So I would say … Wanton Self-focus, Pigheadnesses, Blindness to second opportunity/and most blatantly refusal to be redeemed/suffering of one’s own making

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posted November 19, 2011 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have asked IQ about this aspect--ixion conjunct Lilith.It sounds awful, really. The person who had it was a child molester. These asteroids are so amazing that it defies belief.

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posted November 19, 2011 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ixion is the FIRST murderer in Greek myth. He has no repentance. He dies, unrepentant.

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posted November 19, 2011 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Casey Anthony's daughter had Ixion conjunct HER name asteroid( Antonia) in her natal chart

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posted November 19, 2011 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a busy Ixion; square sun, trine mars sextile venus. Those are the tightest aspects.

It squares my mercury and ascendant too but the orbs are kinda wide on those.

Incidentally, I have it in the ninth, in Scorpio, about 11 degrees from Lilith. I'm not a pedophile nor was I ever sexually abused as a child, so there you go.

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posted November 20, 2011 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
11 degrees would be way out of orb. Asteroids must be 3 degrees, tops, and that it tops. Really, the exact ones are the ones that really impact the person, exact conjunctions, up to 2 degrees.

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posted November 20, 2011 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
11 degrees would be way out of orb. Asteroids must be 3 degrees, tops, and that it tops. Really, the exact ones are the ones that really impact the person, exact conjunctions, up to 2 degrees.



True. Even so, I doubt that even a fraction of people with the two conjunct, are pedophiles.

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posted November 20, 2011 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am also not the P word, I just checked it out and I have Ixion cunjunct Lilith (i) 2 deg apart.

I will admit though I was ALMOST molested by a family member.
And for a few years it seemed like I was scared for life from it...and hated my family.

I have this in Scorpio house 6

other aspects to Ixion include
Sextile Saturn
Square Mars

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posted November 20, 2011 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stawr:
I am also not the P word, I just checked it out and I have Ixion cunjunct Lilith (i) 2 deg apart.

I will admit though I was ALMOST molested by a family member.
And for a few years it seemed like I was scared for life from it...and hated my family.

I have this in Scorpio house 6

other aspects to Ixion include
Sextile Saturn
Square Mars


Wow, really? OK, let me ask you some really honest questions. Please describe what you feel this conjunction does in your life/personality. Thank you!

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posted November 20, 2011 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How close is Ixion to the other planets--Mars and Saturn?

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posted November 20, 2011 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If one has these dark asteroids, one does not manifest them in to abuse, often, BUT one will have to deal with the dark energy. The dark energy is what it is, imo.


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posted November 20, 2011 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel the Lilith energy...and seem to unleash my inner b!tch sometimes. lol

but I'm not sure how I feel Ixion...I don't have a criminal mind state. I care very deeply about doing the right thing, and treating others the way I want to be treated. And when someone doesn't treat me the way I want to be treated I can get very p!ssed off. Whether I choose to show it or bottle it up inside.
That is usually when I decide to unleash my inner b!tch. And usually just make my point to the person that it's not fair what they are doing. I can sound harsh when doing so...but it gets my point across.

hmm I almost considered dating a guy who was a felon. He said for stealing. But the wired thing was I tried to background check him and his name didn't even show up on the jail or prison data base. And his name didn't even show up on there. So he either changed his name, or he is a compulsive lair.
Either way...there is something he was not telling me.

I was honest with him and told him I did that, and his name didn't show up.
And then he got all defensive and was like "is that why you wont go out with me!?" and I was like "no...it's called I just got out of a bad relationship and I already told you that"

But yeah, he wasn't a catch at all so I didn't take it any farther.

And my most recent ex use to steal cars. Said he got involved in the wrong crowd. I of course didn't learn that about him til much later. Glad he stopped by the time I met him.

And the ex before him also has pretty unstable life. He is attractive(not that attractive but still), like I was surprised he digged me. But I began to realize he was delusional, and that his morals where kind of effed up. From thinking having nice things where easy, to stealing a beer out of my friend's dad's fridge. We went to the fair we and didn't want to pay 10 bucks to get...so we looked for a way to sneak in...we where in highland park.(an area similar and close to Detroit) And he ran into guy selling damn key chains... a guy who tells people the money went to donations to veterans, but keeps the money himself. And he hands some to my ex...my ex didn't have a problem at all lying to peoples faces saying donate money to me to go to veterans and have a key chain. I just stood there and watched him in disgust...thinking why am I with him?
This guy got kicked out of his house and was staying at mine...I was waiting my folks to kick him out...they never did. I was the one that kicked him out.
I was put in an awkward situation where we moved to fast(though I stayed a virgin the whole time)I didn't know how to get rid of him. We like side by side for a whole month. Unless I went to the bathroom. He ended up telling me that his crackhead biological mom kicked him out cause he kissed his either step or half sister, and that's why he lives with his dad now...either way I was like omg...this guy has no morals...I can't believe I've gotten to know someone like this. I finally got space away from him one day and that's all I needed. I dumped him and kicked him out of my house. (this was two years ago...after I graduated high school)

He recently went to jail for breaking into peoples cars. He also lied to me about having a son when I was with him...his dad told me...but then my ex said she had a miscarriage. And after I dumped him he cheated on his new girlfriend and got the one night stand girl knocked up.

It's embarrassing that I've dated people like this. This is why I take time to get to know people first now. And why I've been single for a year and a half. I wonder if self esteem issues have anything to do with attracting the wrong guys.
I'm at a place now where I know what I don't want, but don't know how to do better yet. Well I have dated better guys...but not better enough. lol

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posted November 20, 2011 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Ixion 24 deg


My Saturn is in Capricorn 24 deg house 8
Mars is in Aquarius 23 deg house 10
and Lilith 22 deg

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posted November 20, 2011 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ixion is 24 degrees what, Sweetie?

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posted November 20, 2011 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am fascinated by Ixion, as I am by Nessus and Deja. Why do I love all the dark ones

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posted November 20, 2011 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ixion is 24 deg in Scorpio house 6. Yeah the story for Ixion is good. He is not right in the head. lol

I kind of think being a criminal psychologist would be an interesting job to have....but I would be in school a long time for that. lol

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posted February 23, 2019 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoveAstrally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Ixion conjunct my Black Moon Lilith exactly at 23º Scorpio.
Loosely conjunct my Pluto at 15º Scorpio.
Moon 12º Scorpio, Juno 11º Scorpio
My vertex is at 29º59' Scorpio... if you wanted to include that in a larger orb...
My other lilith... not the asteroid, the Dark Moon Lilith is at 18º Scorpio
All the above fall in my 5th House

Thought I'd add a perspective this..
Intimately, I tend to attract guys that are fresh out of another relationship. That kind of annoys me, but once I find someone sexually attractive there is no going back. I'm all in. It doesn't happen with many people. Some single and some taken. I usually pick this person out of a crowd before knowing them and will sense a magnetic alluring connection to them in their presence. It has always ended up being mutual.

I love a challenge with lots of illicit 'temptation' feels. Primal vibe is extremely attractive to me, and so having a "need to resist" makes it all the more difficult. This scenario is very tantalizing to me. I don't think too much about consequences of my actions (esp. the ones taken when I'm under some sexual attraction sorcery). This is something I am consciously trying to focus on more and more, or else I forget consequences to risky behavior exist.

For the most part, I stay single. I date around, but enjoy not getting involved in deep intimate relationships. (Also I'm picky) Past relationships just haven't worked out. They've never been mentally deep enough for me, among other normal reasons. I'm not a revengeful person in any regard. Revenge has always given me a horrible feeling.

I'm not a pedophile nor child molester, so +1 for the NOs. I wasn't raped or abused in my childhood. I've noticed not many other people do this, but I like to generally keep up with news about women and children sex trafficking because it appalls me so much I feel it in my stomach. I get these intense gut feelings with news in relation to the collective specifically... so as you can imagine, I don't spend time watching or reading news really. Can't trust them anyways. I [very generally] keep up specifically with sex trafficking news because I want to make sure someone is standing up for the abused/trafficked children who don't know how to stand up for themselves. What can I say I'm a passionate person... I should have been a lawyer and it's something I still consider presently.

I can post my chart if requested. I know it's been a hot minute since this thread was discussed, but I'm open to any questions on this topic!

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I have Ixion, Mercury and (True) Lilith conjunct by a degree in Scorpio (all of which are conjunct Pluto/Sun/Venus) in the 8th.

I can't say I've ever really been the Ixion person as a default or anything, but I have experienced it many many times in other people. There has been the rare occasion where if I am pushed and pushed and pushed into a corner mentally/emotionally, I end up in a meltdown or shut down, both of which I become physically defensive if pushed even further.

I do find myself having been drawn to Ixion types in the past as well, but that was a pattern I have been shedding since it was more of a cause of my upbringing being surrounded by Ixion-types.

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posted February 25, 2019 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ixxion does seem to play out in just the way I said--lawless and a person who makes his own rules and often is punished for it lol

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posted February 25, 2019 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ixxion does seem to play out in just the way I said--lawless and a person who makes his own rules and often is punished for it lol


In this instance, that definitely describes me lmao (very specifically my way of thinking)

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posted February 26, 2019 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still can't remember how to use Lilith. The asteroid is easier to use, because there aren't 3 Lilith asteroids, just one. All I know is my Lilith isn't conjunct Ixion. Regardless, since it would be awkward to make another thread just for my aspect, I'm going to respond here instead considering Ixion is still relevant.

Anyway, I plugged Ixion into my chart and it's in my 1st house within a degree of my Scorpio Ascendant. I'm not the darkest person out there, honestly. I'm actually pretty tame even at my worst, but I know how to give my darker side a healthy outlet. I'm quite familiar with the darker side of life and I've been through a lot of dark stuff.

Ixion seems to be one of the darker ones. I'm just not completely familiar with it yet so I am not confident on how it manifests even though what I just said earlier in this post is still true. I need to study more about it to determine the role it plays in my chart. It makes a pretty tight conjunction to my Ascendant so it probably means something, but beyond its conjunction, it doesn't do much else.

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