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Ami Anne
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posted November 20, 2011 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are so good to me, to help me. You seem to be able to put ALL the plethora of info on asteroids in to a few usable sentences! May I ask you about a few, please.

Ixion
Sedna
varuna

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posted November 20, 2011 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are the things I have in the charts I am doing

Sedna conjunct Nessus--in the natal
Ixion conjunc Lilith in the natal
Varuna conj the NN in a composite


Thank you for your help, IQ!

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posted November 21, 2011 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami,

Ixion conunct Lilith sounds like very bad news. I saw your fb message just now and was shocked that such a horrible aspect could be found in already dark chart.

The thing is, Lilith on its own can be positive, raw feminine power and yet can be a negative force of wreaking havoc. Ixion is a Centaur that represents murder, in fact he was the first murderer in Greek Myth. He is also an ungrateful perv in later myths as he tries to lust after Hera, Zeus' wife.

Lilith conjunct Ixion can represent a very deep, rebellious desire to kill/hurt for egoistic vengeance, and even derive sadistic pleasure from this.

Ixion conjunct Lilith square Lust could actually represent a snuff-porn movie psychopath/enthusiast.

Varuna has been covered excellently by a Russian Astrologer, I think I posted that link some years ago. I have found Varuna in many undersea earthquake charts, and in Vedic Myths, he is the deity of Water. Vedic Neptune.
Varuna conjunct NN could mean one who can create soul stirring emotions for the sake of his own self actualization, but I am not sure of this.

I will get back to you later on Sedna for I am not yet satisfied with my knowledge of Sedna.

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posted November 21, 2011 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't think that's a big assumption to make, IQ?

How do you know they aren't a saint.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 21, 2011 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
You don't think that's a big assumption to make, IQ?

How do you know they aren't a saint.



Belligerent Pygmy
It is a great honor when IQ answers questions for us in the Asteroid Forum. His insights, greatly, help people like me who want, desperately, to learn Astrology. He helps people hone the asteroids down to their simplest form, so one can USE them. If not, it is all a bunch of mush. That is the spirit in which IQ and I are talking.


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posted November 21, 2011 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you IQ
YES, I am mining that persons chart, as I am better at Astrology, now. That one aspect sums everything up.
I have been doing a prison kind of ministry. With that, I get to see the charts of people by asking for the birth dates. I see that some people are born as sociopaths. I have a female friend who was born with no empathy. She was raised with values and is devoted to her mother. She has a code for herself that she does not violate because she has no shame or guilt to stop her, as we do.

All the sociopath charts have an afflicted Jupiter but it varies in HOW afflicted. This got me thinking about the person with the Ixion conjunct Lilith whom you know.

Was she born a child molester, as my friend was born a sociopath?

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posted November 21, 2011 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi BP,
As Ami correctly clarified, the asteroid aspect is explained as if that is the complete chart. Yes, a Saint can have this aspect too. However, a Saint's chart would have extremely powerful positive aspects that negate the ill effects of dangerous Asteroids.
Sun trine Saturn, Ascendant conjunct LOGOS, Neptune trine Mars, Moon conjunct Arcturus etc are all examples of positive aspects that nullify negative aspects.

You may ask what is a negative aspect doing in a saint's chart. Well, mostly it can refer to:
1. His being victimized by such an aspect person in the past lifeline
2. His being a negative type in the past who repented.
3. He has negative traits but he has transcended them.

Usually, Point 2 will be seen when Draconic Charts have such aspects superimposed on Natal.


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posted November 21, 2011 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami wrote:
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All the sociopath charts have an afflicted Jupiter but it varies in HOW afflicted. This got me thinking about the person with the Ixion conjunct Lilith whom you know.
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The afflicted Jupiter point is a new insight for me, thanks for mentioning. As per Dane Rudhyar's research, women with afflicted Jupiter which is retrograde are more prone to abandoning their children.

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posted November 21, 2011 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I have done 4 charts of sociopaths. Two were men who had EVERY planet but one in hard aspect to Jupiter. One was a man who had many hard aspects to Jupiter but not as many as the first, two. The last is a female who has 4 hard aspects to Jupiter.


IQ, the person whom we know, the woman who molested, has Jupiter oppose Uranus and Jupiter square saturn. She also has an exact conjunction of Sun and Merc in Aqua.

I am thinking that the exact cojunction of Sun and Mercury, the casimi, I think it is called, is something to look for in mental illness. In these cases, the persons mind is too close to their identity. They cannot stand back and detach. What do you think?

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posted November 21, 2011 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steppenwolf1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Ami Anne and IQ -

i don't want to hijack this thread but i have a question that is somewhat relevant about Ixion placements - Ixion conjunct IC at 17 scorpio and 19 scorpio, respectively...in the 3rd house. i have no idea how to interpret this. This is in my own chart so I am a little clouded in understanding this.

I understand there are other aspects in the chart that need to be taken into consideration but is there a general feel for this aspect?

thank you

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posted November 21, 2011 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Steppen and Welcome to the Asteroid Forum

I will throw out some questions? Did you have a background which was lawless, out of control, no sense of rules, your parents did what they wanted without any sense of repentance/shame or guilt?

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posted November 21, 2011 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steppenwolf1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami Anne -

Thank you for the welcome! I typed out a response but it was gone...

to answer your question - yes and no.
i am not great with words so bear with me lol.

my parents were 20 when they had me and left the country of their birth (and my birth) when i was 5 with nothing...to come to the U.S.
They were young and it must have been so hard to leave their family, come to a new country and establish themselves with a small child.

My childhood was tumultuous in a few ways - we had lived in 4 different countries by the time I was 8 and my parents had their own way of doing things lol, and they still do.

They are somewhat uncoventional - they are very open minded in some ways like i never had a curfew and was always allowed to have a boyfriend, smoke cigarettes, etc but i had to get straight A's and they introduced me to some of my favorite literature, i had to read and do extra homework on the weekends.
my parents also sometimes had no regard for my feelings because they wanted me to succeed and i also had a lot of responsibility in general which they felt was my job and at the time i didn't understand because it was not explained, it was like it was implied. I understand it now but as a child, i felt overwhelmed a lot and i was very nervous about letting them down, which i felt happened often.

to be honest and not to ramble but i don't want to give you a surface answer - there were many times in my youth when my mother in particular was physically and verbally abusive and it was really hard on me. I am now 28 and we have had the chance to grow and repair our relationship which i am sure has healed all of us on many levels. I feel that not many people get the chance to heal and forgive on both ends, move on and create a better relationship. I am very grateful that i have had the chance to experience all of this because it has taught me many valuable lessons and i no longer hold on to any resentment or anger as i did for many years. we have a good relationship now and genuinely look forward to seeing each other and my parents are very proud of the person i have become - which is not necessarily the person they wanted me to become lol - but even so, they are happy i chose my own way and they support me which is amazing in many ways. we have all grown from our relationship but it was a long and hard road until my early 20s.

I am sorry to ramble so long - I just wanted to give you a more thorough answer.

Thank you

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posted November 21, 2011 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear iQ, would I be able to ask you a few questions too?

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Ami Anne
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posted November 21, 2011 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steppenwolf1:
Hi Ami Anne -

Thank you for the welcome! I typed out a response but it was gone...

to answer your question - yes and no.
i am not great with words so bear with me lol.

my parents were 20 when they had me and left the country of their birth (and my birth) when i was 5 with nothing...to come to the U.S.
They were young and it must have been so hard to leave their family, come to a new country and establish themselves with a small child.

My childhood was tumultuous in a few ways - we had lived in 4 different countries by the time I was 8 and my parents had their own way of doing things lol, and they still do.

They are somewhat uncoventional - they are very open minded in some ways like i never had a curfew and was always allowed to have a boyfriend, smoke cigarettes, etc but i had to get straight A's and they introduced me to some of my favorite literature, i had to read and do extra homework on the weekends.
my parents also sometimes had no regard for my feelings because they wanted me to succeed and i also had a lot of responsibility in general which they felt was my job and at the time i didn't understand because it was not explained, it was like it was implied. I understand it now but as a child, i felt overwhelmed a lot and i was very nervous about letting them down, which i felt happened often.

to be honest and not to ramble but i don't want to give you a surface answer - there were many times in my youth when my mother in particular was physically and verbally abusive and it was really hard on me. I am now 28 and we have had the chance to grow and repair our relationship which i am sure has healed all of us on many levels. I feel that not many people get the chance to heal and forgive on both ends, move on and create a better relationship. I am very grateful that i have had the chance to experience all of this because it has taught me many valuable lessons and i no longer hold on to any resentment or anger as i did for many years. we have a good relationship now and genuinely look forward to seeing each other and my parents are very proud of the person i have become - which is not necessarily the person they wanted me to become lol - but even so, they are happy i chose my own way and they support me which is amazing in many ways. we have all grown from our relationship but it was a long and hard road until my early 20s.

I am sorry to ramble so long - I just wanted to give you a more thorough answer.

Thank you



No ramble, Darling. Thank you for sharing what you did.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 24, 2011 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear IQ
Someone has His Jupiter conj her Nessus in synastry. What would that do? Would Jupiter expand Nessus in a positive way or a negative way? What would it look like, in their relationship? Thank you IQ

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posted November 24, 2011 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Hi BP,
As Ami correctly clarified, the asteroid aspect is explained as if that is the complete chart. Yes, a Saint can have this aspect too. However, a Saint's chart would have extremely powerful positive aspects that negate the ill effects of dangerous Asteroids.
Sun trine Saturn, Ascendant conjunct LOGOS, Neptune trine Mars, Moon conjunct Arcturus etc are all examples of positive aspects that nullify negative aspects.

You may ask what is a negative aspect doing in a saint's chart. Well, mostly it can refer to:
1. His being victimized by such an aspect person in the past lifeline
2. His being a negative type in the past who repented.
3. He has negative traits but he has transcended them.

Usually, Point 2 will be seen when Draconic Charts have such aspects superimposed on Natal.



Hummm I wonder if I somehow fall in this category. Although I am NO saint.. Im pretty much by the book.. Im very afraid to do wrong things..
I have an afflicted Jupiter in rx
I have a T-square with Jupiter (h10) venus (h4) pluto (h7)
This T-square is the only hard aspects I have in my chart... (ooo a out of sign mars sq Neptune)

I have nexxus conjunct IC (3 orbs may be wide)
I have Ixion in Scoprio in H8 trine to venus.

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