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Topic: Venus conj Deja - in love
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Lonake
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posted November 29, 2011 09:55 PM
  
Woman's Dejanira 09'56"
Man's Venus 09'05"anything of significance in a romantic relationship? Venus is what we desire/wish to attract, Deja is an abused archetype...
would her wound put him off, or does he love her in spite of this? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 30, 2011 01:28 AM
Probably he would love her BECAUSE of this. Her vulnerability may attract him.IP: Logged |
iQ
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posted November 30, 2011 04:16 AM
Aptly said Ceridwen!IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted November 30, 2011 05:52 AM
Interesting.I agree with Ceridwen.
Many men like to feel they can protect their partner, and a woman with a wound, even if she is healed, is still a woman who was hurt and needed protection and didn't receive it.
He may feel he is the one to bring her the safety she deserved in her past. To digress slightly, how do you guys think Neptune would play out in place of Venus? All I can come up with is a rather dark interpretation, that the Neptune person may fantasise about abusing the Deja person in some way? Although the spiritual aspects of Neptune, could lead to the complete opposite interpretation, and lead the Neptune person to feel they must heal the Deja person? IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted November 30, 2011 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Interesting.I agree with Ceridwen.
Many men like to feel they can protect their partner, and a woman with a wound, even if she is healed, is still a woman who was hurt and needed protection and didn't receive it.
He may feel he is the one to bring her the safety she deserved in her past. To digress slightly, how do you guys think Neptune would play out in place of Venus? All I can come up with is a rather dark interpretation, that the Neptune person may fantasise about abusing the Deja person in some way? Although the spiritual aspects of Neptune, could lead to the complete opposite interpretation, and lead the Neptune person to feel they must heal the Deja person?
Venus is just the lower vibration of Neptune anyway. So if venus conjunct that means the guy likes her because of her woundedness, then why wouldn't the same thing be applicable for Deja conjunct Venus's higher vibration? It makes no sense. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted November 30, 2011 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
Venus is just the lower vibration of Neptune anyway. So if venus conjunct that means the guy likes her because of her woundedness, then why wouldn't the same thing be applicable for Deja conjunct Venus's higher vibration? It makes no sense.
I'm not sure I fully understand how Venus is the lower vibration of Neptune ... ? So, if Venus = attraction to the wound or vulnerability it produces, Neptune = the capacity to heal the wound? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 30, 2011 07:16 AM
One aspect of Venus and Neptune as I see it is this (though there are of course other expressions of these two, too):Venus = personal love (usually striving for relating in a very personal one-on-one way Neptune = spiritual love (more allencompassing instead of personal)
The difference I see is that neptune-Deja maybe would not so much be about being "personally attracted" to the Deja-girl, but having a lot of compassion for her, maybe even without discrimination.
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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted November 30, 2011 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
One aspect of Venus and Neptune as I see it is this (though there are of course other expressions of these two, too):Venus = personal love (usually striving for relating in a very personal one-on-one way Neptune = spiritual love (more allencompassing instead of personal)
The difference I see is that neptune-Deja maybe would not so much be about being "personally attracted" to the Deja-girl, but having a lot of compassion for her, maybe even without discrimination.
Ahh that is a lovely interpretation Ceridwen.
Gosh, I am such a pessimist! So, Neptune may represent the elusive 'unconditional love', or at the least the potential for it ... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 30, 2011 08:04 AM
Yes, I think on good days Neptune may represent exactly that. 
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popcorn
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posted December 01, 2011 05:29 AM
I think all of you met people who got connection to your dejanira.
Ive my dejanira in conj to my karma in conj to neptun in scorpio. I also has many friends/peoples planet in conj to that stellium and Icant either see how this works out.My mothers venus
My sons mars conj saturn
My daughters moon conj pluto
My sisters SN and jupeter
My childhoods best friends venus conj neptun
One another friends moon
My boyfriends moon
All the people around the year I was born got their neptun on my stellium
All the people around 88-90 has pluto iin conj
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Ceridwen
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posted December 01, 2011 06:08 AM
Interestingly I don`t really know people who have planets conjunct my Dejanira. At least I am not aware of it.
My Dejanira is on 00 Aries.I recall though that I once met a guy who had his KAALI conjunct my Dejanira and his Mars was opposing it. Additionally his NESSUS was conjunct my DESC and quinkunx my Venus. (On top of that his Venus was conjunct my Sun and Mercury, but his Uranus and Pluto were squaring his Venus and my Sun, Mercury). I LITERALLY ran away and broke off every contact; I did not know about the asteroids back then, but I had never before heard such shrill alarm bells ringing in my head. Partly I think I was being irrational, but well, partly I still think that my instinct was maybe spot on. Who knows for sure?
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I want to say though that I do not think that any planet conjunct Dejanira is necessarily trying to "victimize" her. But having the more harsh or very powerful energies touching her in synastry (like Pluto, Mars, etc.), might overwhelm her.
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popcorn
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posted December 01, 2011 06:59 AM
My Draconic mars and Draconic tyche conj your dejanira :-)IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted December 02, 2011 02:16 PM
Thanks, Ceri, that is an interesting interp.  Probably would have to have other indicators for this in the synastry, since it seems like asteroids back up what is going on with the basic 10, angles, etc. And then when they do back it up, they add TONS of v.detailed, specific info that would be hard to get from the basic chart. IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted December 02, 2011 03:37 PM
Haha thats fun. You already knew it :-)IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted December 04, 2011 09:50 PM
^ No, actually there's nothing in the synastry that would point to that. If anything, it is my chart, factors that are in my natal and in our synastry that make me want to nurture/protect/heal him. One of the strong ones is his Saturn in my 8th. I'm always attracted to the vulnerability of people with that Saturn placement in my chart.IP: Logged |
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