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Topic: Mars/Deja and Venus/Nessus in synastry
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Ceridwen
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posted November 30, 2011 01:30 AM
  
I wonder how you would interprete that?His Mars opposite her Dejanira
His Nessus opposite her Venus Both aspects are exact or within 1 degree of orb. I found that "cross-interaction" of the pairings Nessus/ Dejanira and Mars/Venus interesting (though of course Nessus and Dejanira are not a happy pairing). EDIT:
I also noticed that the guy`s more masculine / Yang objects Mars and Nessus are aspecting the girl`s feminine / Yin objects Venus and Dejanira.
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Randall
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posted December 02, 2011 12:59 PM
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popcorn
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posted December 02, 2011 02:09 PM
I not put much focus on venus opp nessus because I will think the Venus person aspect the most of the people born the same year. Nessus are so slow. If there was an DW I would put obsession into the relationship. I know ceridwen already know that so I dont think this is the answer she want.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted December 02, 2011 02:35 PM
Deja is abused archetype, opp his Mars, she might feel vulnerable when around him, as if her wounds are opening up. Is he going to hurt her, is he going to protect her (fight for her) that is the dilemma that she has here. I'd look to what is going on with his Mars natally, as well as what planets of hers are hitting his Mars for more info. I think Mars would be able to hone in on her weak spot, so it is up to the condition of his Mars what he would do. Mars is the fighter/protector/lover. If negative aspects, like his Mars sq to Pluto, I think he would lash out at her weakness when in a rage. If there is Mars trine Neptune, he may get into the fantasy of being a healer/protector.Nessus opp her Venus, he might seek to possess her and I think he would hold some fascination for her that scares her on one level and draws her in on another, something taboo, but it's an opposition so there is a push-pull dynamic like the one above..Nessus can consume totally, so she may grapple with feeling that if she gives in will there be nothing left of her, will she be rejected by society, and the other part of her is so drawn in that she doesn't care if she never comes back. So aspects to her Venus natal and in synastry need to be looked at more. Venus sq Uranus would jump right in, Venus trine Saturn would worry re:judgments of society and would take their time making sure they would really want to make that leap, because once they're in, they're in. I think Nessus in opp would see Venus as someone who might be willing to play his devious game, and if he can only lure her in just the right manner he may be able to have his way, but she basically dangles herself in front of him..I dunno, it could get ugly since they are both playing with fire. But like I said she might like it. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted December 02, 2011 03:04 PM
Thank you all for your replies, and wow, Lonake, yours simply floored me. It makes very much sense to me.
"I'd look to what is going on with his Mars natally, as well as what planets of hers are hitting his Mars for more info."
His Mars is on 00 Libra conjunct Mercury on 29 Virgo, and both are trine Jupiter on 00 Gemini.
Oh and his Mars is conjunct his Venus/Pluto-mp.
Only widish aspects to her planets: square to her Sun, but the orb is 4-5 degrees.
sextile her Mars also with an orb of 4-5 degrees.
squares her Venus with an degree of 4-5 degrees. lol (seems like his Mars is triggering her Sun/Venus-mp) "he might seek to possess her and I think he would hold some fascination for her that scares her on one level and draws her in on another"
That is so spot on, it is almost creepy. " So aspects to her Venus natal and in synastry need to be looked at"
Her Venus is trine his Sun with an orb of 3-4 degrees. squares his Pluto widely (4 degrees again. lol)
sextiles his Uranus (2-3)
sextiles his NN (0-1)
trines his Chiron widely (4-5) EDIT:
You mentioned Mars as "protector", so I looked up some descriptive asteroids, turns out the guy has: WHITEKNIGHT conjunct Mars by one degree. lol
his LANCELOT conjuncts her GUINEVERE, though widely with 3-4 degrees.
(his ARTHUR opposes her Guinevere at the same orb)
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Lonake
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posted December 03, 2011 11:01 PM
Hi again,---The condition of his natal mars is somewhat volatile, since it is conj merc, and given a push from jupiter, so I would hope that if he gets irritated he wouldn't try to show off his biting intellect in the form of barbed wires directed at her.
---His Mars sq to her Sun is still valid, but is her Sun conj an angle in his chart, that would give him pause before making an outburst of any sort, because Sun on an angle would make him more in tune with her. You know sometimes with the sq the people hardly even get together, the Sun person can find the way Mars asserts themselves to be so irritating that it gives THEM pause before even starting a relationship. Is this your Sun, did you see him as an irritant in the beginning?
---His Mars sq her Venus, OK, so if there is attraction, he's gonna let the irritation slide cos that's not what he's about here, badda bing, badda bang. If he's attracted the irritation will be re-purposed and sensed as passion, and he will think how can passion go wrong. Downside Venus Mars sq is the classic cat mouse where one partner is desirous of the other, does not get what they want, and then begins to annoy the ever loving you-know-what out of them. Mars doesn't have to be the one who is attracted here with the sq, it could be Venus who is a bit inflamed.
---Her Venus trine his Sun, he's more eager to see her good side, it doesn't really speak to the Nessus bit tho, it only makes her look more appealing to him, and makes it more likely she could view him as an ideal companion.
---Her Venus sq to his Pluto sounds like a play on the Nessus aspect, he could view her as superficial and unworthy of deep connection, or as an unrequited love (one way or the other), but there is no absence of feeling with this one. Yea I see Mars as a protector, a hero, as well as warrior and a violent sob if he so chooses 
The other asteroid aspects are interesting. IP: Logged |
sfaithj
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From: Berkeley,CA
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 01:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I wonder how you would interprete that?His Mars opposite her Dejanira
His Nessus opposite her Venus Both aspects are exact or within 1 degree of orb. I found that "cross-interaction" of the pairings Nessus/ Dejanira and Mars/Venus interesting (though of course Nessus and Dejanira are not a happy pairing). EDIT:
I also noticed that the guy`s more masculine / Yang objects Mars and Nessus are aspecting the girl`s feminine / Yin objects Venus and Dejanira.
Unfortunately i couldn't find either of these asteroids listed in "mechanics of the future: asteroids" or "angles and predictions" (both are my go to asteroids books). IP: Logged |
nastenka
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From: istanbul
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 07, 2012 06:46 AM
those two aspects are very famliar!! but in synastry path...his draco nessus conjunct my venus (1')
his natal dejanira conjunct my natal mars (0') (and:
1.my natal nessus opposite his sun (0'),
2.my draco dejanira conunct his draco descendant (0') (this is also my natal saturn location with 0 orb)
3.his natal nessus trine my natal sun (0')
4.my draco nessus opposite his natal dejanira (1')
5.his draco dejanira sextile my natal north node (0') (this is also his natal nnode location with 0 orb) any dangerous? have no idea... but i m crazy about him... IP: Logged | |
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