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MertSerimer
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posted December 03, 2011 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hola,

I have narcissus exact conjunct My Sun.(Also cupido conjunct Ascendant)

I read some articles about Narcissus. The general story is like this;quoted from Wikipedia

Ekho who is very very beatiful elf and never cares and responds who falls for her, sees a hunter. This hunter is very very handsome man called Narcissus. Ekho falls for him at first sight. But Ekho's love is unrequited love because Narcissus never responds her. Because of unrequited love, Ekho slowly loses her health and happiness the following days. Remaining bones of her body turns into rocks and remaining sounds of her body turns into "ECHOS" that we know as "echo(sound rebound)". Therefore, Gods living in Olympus becomes mad at him and decides to punish him. One day, Narcissus feels thirsty during hunting and goes to a river. When he crouches to drink water, due to reflection of water, he sees his perfect body and face. Being not aware of his beauty before, he falls for himself and starts to love as he never loves anyone else. After that, he never drinks, eats and so starts to lose his health and happiness like "Echo the elf" does. After he dies, his body turns into the flowers called "marigold"

Story's bullshitness is of the gods reaction. Does he have to respond any feelings towards himself? No, nobody does. So he didnt deserve punishment. Maybe he was a spoiled guy but still nobody has to love who loves that nobody..

By the way, i am also a handsome man. In my childhood i was very fat so not handsome and never loved by opposite sex. Before 4 years ago, i lost 100 pounds so "Karma is a ***** " started... I have sun conjunct venus and also venus opposite mars. Now it is my time to revenge right? What i am curious about is, what will be my punishment? What is my tendencies?

Thanks.

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted December 03, 2011 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://apolloandthelycan.blogspot.com/2011/09/narcissus-and-echo.html

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MertSerimer
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posted December 03, 2011 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
http://apolloandthelycan.blogspot.com/2011/09/narcissus-and-echo.html

Thanks for the link. Mine was quoted from Wikipedia.

Anyway i am still looking for an answer

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted December 03, 2011 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha Like Narcissus got stuck looking in the pool.

Your punishment is that you may get obsessive about "looking" at yourself to the point that you "waste away" in some other area of your life. You might be too quick to reject people because you think they're not "good enough" for you.

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MertSerimer
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posted December 03, 2011 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
Haha Like Narcissus got stuck looking in the pool.

Your punishment is that you may get obsessive about "looking" at yourself to the point that you "waste away" in some other area of your life. You might be too quick to reject people because you think they're not "good enough" for you.


Just because of your first sentence, i love you , also thanks a lot for explanation. It seems somewhat accurate for me. Since a year, i have started aware of my narcissus tendencies a little but it is hard to let it go because of my chironic past.

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted December 04, 2011 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We all have our battles Mert, and I understand Chiron very well...it conjuncts my moon.

I think that once we become aware of these things we can start to make progress. At least if we get accused of being a particular way we will know if it really is a problem for us or if the other person is just projecting their own stuff.

It was Nemesis that gave Narcissus the punishment so if you check where Nemesis is in your chart it could help to narrow down the place that the revenge will come from... or in other words, if someone has a planet on your nemesis, they may try to make you feel bad for being yourself.

Echo (in your birth chart) will show you what it is that you tend to ignore. Echo was also beautiful, so the theory is, if you develop and acknowledge your Echo then your Narcissus shouldn't be as much of a problem.

Hope this helps

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MertSerimer
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posted December 04, 2011 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
We all have our battles Mert, and I understand Chiron very well...it conjuncts my moon.

I think that once we become aware of these things we can start to make progress. At least if we get accused of being a particular way we will know if it really is a problem for us or if the other person is just projecting their own stuff.

It was Nemesis that gave Narcissus the punishment so if you check where Nemesis is in your chart it could help to narrow down the place that the revenge will come from... or in other words, if someone has a planet on your nemesis, they may try to make you feel bad for being yourself.

Echo (in your birth chart) will show you what it is that you tend to ignore. Echo was also beautiful, so the theory is, if you develop and acknowledge your Echo then your Narcissus shouldn't be as much of a problem.

Hope this helps


It really helped!. Problem is nemesis conjunct my moon. Why does it always keep finding me that every problem in my chart is related to moon. If that moon would be one sign after i would have delicious natal chart . I have an very afflicted moon. Thus it trines strong pluto which explains why i am revengeful. Since i have moon/pluto also pluto in 8th house, i have manipulative skills and it is exactly how i am gonna revenge. The problem is, it is not right thing to do but "life" is never about deserving something because i went through things i never deserved so thus i will make them have same pain(of course i WILL NEVER harm any people psyhically!!). For me, in order people to understand fully each other, they have to feel and have SAME PAIN. Without having same pain, nobody is truly understood.. But problem is that moon is in pisces.. I am so empathic and caring. It is the conflict. I am either super good or super bad.... It is killing me..Also echo is in my 2th house. Trines widely both saturn and neptune, exact conjuncts vesta, sextiles moon and nemesis. It is Exact opposite pluto!!.

So what can you say about echo and nemesis placement in my chart?

Thanks in advance!!!!

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