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Ceridwen
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posted December 13, 2011 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I firmly believe that synastry / composite always works, even if it is just some celeb getting my attention. It has never failed me; even the most shallow interest in anyone, even strangers (as most celebs are), was clearly indicated in the astrological charts.


This time I am at the end of my wits though. He undeniably got my attention and definitely gets my "crush-worthy" motor humming.

But I don`t see the astrology backing this up.

So, can anyone else maybe point me to the constellation that might explain why I feel some sort of "affinity" here?

(I guessed his ASC, though it could be off of course)


EDIT:
I know it is really not THAT important, but it just bugs me, if something related to astrology simply eludes my understanding.

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posted December 13, 2011 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm with you, it is always there, either by looking at the natals, and/or the synastry.

His Mars is conj your MC, for an angular connection, could signify that his sexuality personifies something of the ideal male to you. He stands out to you.

His Mars is conj Merc, giving a Mars in Gemini flavor, and Gem is your Dsc.
Air Dsc typically goes for Airy individuals, so his Mars fulfills that for you.
His Jupiter same sign your DSC, not conj but Jupiter emphasizes traits in the personality by the sign it holds, so his Jupiter is sorta calling out to your DSC.

He has Mars trine Jupiter, mimics your Sagittarius Mars (you have Mars/Jupiter too).
Also creates a draw since your Sun is in Sagittarius. Flavoring of a Sun/Mars connection.
If you want, you could count your Venus sextile Jupiter in this mix too.
He has Sun sq Jupiter, you have the Sagittarius Sun/Mars. Another Sun/Mars flavoring.

Attraction aspects, You to him
-Venus trine Sun
-Venus sextile Uranus
-Mars sq Sun
-Sun sq Mars

Sun/Mars connection being emphasized 4 times, 2 with the aspects, 2 with the natals.
(Note: w.progressions, Sun/Mars is emphasized 6 times.)

I think you have at least 1 planet on his angles, and the fact that you don't know his tob is the missing piece.
With the tob you gave him, your Venus would sit on his IC, a nice sense of coming home, a sort of blood tie with each other.

I would've expected him to have more of a natal Saturn/Capricorn flavoring for him since that is your Venus.
For your Aqua Moon he has Uranus conj NN sextile Sun. Still not exceedingly strong.
Your Venus loves Pluto, his is not strong in the natal.
Your Mars loves Neptune, his is not strong, either.

I think it's more the Sun/Mars here, the Jupiter/Sagittarius emphasis to each of yours both in natals, and then being even more exaggerated since there is a double whammy aspect (without knowing his birth data for more angle connections).

Does the way he come across bring up a certain energized, optimistic, in love with life feeling in you?
If there is a romantic sort of feeling here, I would think it's a calling to embrace your Sun.Mars nature and to be more outgoing, more in touch with that spirit and to share it with those that you know.
I think simple attractions like this call to us something about our own nature that we are really longing to embrace. What you see in him, you have it too. And the attraction just lights the way for you to come back home to yourself.

What do you think?

Oh, and the PROGRESSIONS,

His p.Moon is @ 25 Sagittarius O MY GIRL exact conj your Sun. Hellllloooooooo if this isn't a sign, what is? Moon to Sun in synastry embraces EVERYTHING that the Sun has to offer, they eat it up and encourage it, and the Sun then thrives on that connection, feeling stronger from the Moon's continued support.

That is so strong, to me it really backs up what the synastry is about here.

His p.Sun is @ 6 Libra, right on your MC, So you are admiring something about his nature, a Libra quality maybe of beauty, of peace, of BALANCE. Libra is all about bringing together disparate parts and getting them working again. I think this is another indicator of you being brought back into wholeness.

Not to mention, his p.Sun is exact sq your n.Venus, nice for attraction, mimics the synastric trine your Venus has to his n.Sun.

Your p.Sun is @ 3 Aquarius, it trines his n.Mars (SUN/MARS AGAIN).

Your p.Mars is @ 1 Capricorn, it trines his n.Sun (SUN/MARS AGAIN).

NOW what do you think?
I love progressions............

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posted December 13, 2011 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ O and sorry, I just realized I didn't look at the asteroids.
Lol, asteroid forum and all.

I will come back later (!)

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posted December 14, 2011 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your detailed response, Lonake.

Some of the aspects you mentioned I saw as well. But to be honest, I dismissed them, cause they are fairly wide orbed. I like to see aspects under two degrees. But maybe I was a bit too narrowminded here?
Can it be that aspects up to 5 degrees really have such an impact?

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His Mars is conj your MC"
the orb is 4°18, so I thought it was kinda wide.


"ould signify that his sexuality personifies something of the ideal male to you. He stands out to you."
But even with that reservations about the orb, your interpretation is spot on I guess.
So that means 5 degree orb to an angle in a conjunction still works just fine?


"His Mars is conj Merc, giving a Mars in Gemini flavor, and Gem is your Dsc."
Yes, definitely. You know that I always deem the natal fulfillments important, but do they work on their own, without exact aspects?
Apparently they do, or apparently I have to widen my orbs for planetary synastry.


I am giving the orbs for the attraction aspects
-Venus trine Sun
3°56

Even though I like conjunctions or trines of Sun to my Venus, I wasn`t sure if I should include this as it is above 2 and even 3 degrees.


-Venus sextile Uranus
orb: 2°14
And I am not sure how effective sextiles are. What do you think?


-Mars sq Sun
-Sun sq Mars
2°59 and 4°44 respectively

Well, this means our composite has a Sun-Mars-conjunction as well.


"(Note: w.progressions, Sun/Mars is emphasized 6 times.)"
LOL Sun/mars is pretty juicy.


"nd the fact that you don't know his tob is the missing piece."
Yes, I think so.

But I have a very specific inclination to certain angles, even in celebrity charts. It seems I only feel a pull to those who have:
mutable ASC (Pisces and Sagittarius racing for No 1, occassionally Virgo-ASC, I cannot remember a Gem-ASC though)

or Libra-Aries on the ASCC-DESC axis, close to my MC-IC axis, in most cases it is Libra-ASC though.

I do pay attention to Leo ASC`s as well, but that feels different.
I really love / like Robert Downey Jr and Johnny Depp, but it is more on a mental and personality level.


"a nice sense of coming home, a sort of blood tie with each other. "
That nails it, yes. In a weird sense - and I know how silly this must sound- he feels like "home".
Maybe there is some family-similiarity that I notice subconsciously. I just saw a pic of his mom, and it was rather shocking, as from the way she looks she could be a sister of my own mum!
Not just the haircolour and eyecolour, but down to the facial structure and even the way she looks into the camera. Downright creepy.

(even creepier than that, Jude Law has more than a little bit similiarity to my father when he was younger - maybe that is a clue to what gets my attention easily: a recognition of similiarities to my own family)

"I would've expected him to have more of a natal Saturn/Capricorn flavoring for him since that is your Venus."
Yes, me, too.


"Your Venus loves Pluto, his is not strong in the natal."
Interestingly this theme pops up in his midpoints.

his Venus conjuncts Sun/Pluto (0°19)
and probabl. conj. Moon/Pluto as well

his Mars conjuncts Venus/Pluto (0°12)

And if I have his ASC right it might conjunct Mars/Pluto

oh and his Sun is parallel Pluto by 0°30


"Does the way he come across bring up a certain energized, optimistic, in love with life feeling in you?"
Well, among others. MOre a compulsive-obsessive kind of feeling.
(I am kinda glad that he is not really in my life)

"I think simple attractions like this call to us something about our own nature that we are really longing to embrace."
Yes, I agree.

"His p.Moon is @ 25 Sagittarius O MY GIRL exact conj your Sun."
Yes, but only if I have his ASC right.
Interestingly the other guy I had been talking about a few weeks ago, has his natal Sun-Moon on my Sun. lol
I guess I need to embrace "myself".


"feeling stronger from the Moon's continued support."
Yes, usually. but since he is not here... What is there to be supported by?

Do you think we might subtly anticipate how the other person would react to us, if they were around, and are being triggered / activated by that potential?
Does that sound very complicated?


"Not to mention, his p.Sun is exact sq your n.Venus, nice for attraction, mimics the synastric trine your Venus has to his n.Sun."
But it is a square.

"Your p.Sun is @ 3 Aquarius, it trines his n.Mars (SUN/MARS AGAIN)."
Yeah, well, this one is already separating by 3 degrees.


"Your p.Mars is @ 1 Capricorn, it trines his n.Sun (SUN/MARS AGAIN)."
I think this might be the interesting one, especially since my Sun/Venus-mp is on 1 Capricorn as well (on my Vesta).
Which of course means that his Mars activates my Sun/Venus-mp. lol

Oh and I just saw that my pr Venus is trine his pr Mars. lol

Yeah, I love progressions as well.


I did have a look at some minor pieces of the puzzle: midpoints, parallels, antiscia

Well, I am not sure HOW minor these are, my opinion fluctuates at times, still researching them. But I would like to have them backed up by normal synastric links. Something like a one degree square or conjunction or trine. lol


Anyway as for the midpoints:
conj-opp-square under one degree

his Moon= my Moon/Jupiter

his Venus = my Venus/Mars (0.11)
his Veneus = my Venus/ASC

his Mars = my Sun/Venus (0.22)
his Mars = my Mercury / Venus (0.05)

my Sun = his Venus / Mars (0.11)

my Venus = his Mars / Pluto (0.38)
my MC = his Mars/Pluto (0.25)

my Jupiter = his Moon/Venus
my Jupiter = his Sun/Venus (0.19)

my Neptune = his Moon/Venus

my Node = his Moon/Venus (0.14)

and for the parallels and antiscia:

his Sun contraparallel my Moon 0.24
(and quindecile by an orb of 0°05)

his Sun contraparallel my Uranus 0.46
(sextile with orb of 0°50)

his Sun parallel my Pluto 1.00
(no aspect)

his Neptune parallel my Mars 0.46)
(impossibly wide conjunction of 6°02)

his Pluto contraparallel my Moon 0.06
(no aspect, until we count a trine with an orb of: 7.00)


And his Venus is on the contrascion of my Pluto (orb: 0°05)


But as I said, no clue, if I was reaching for straws here.

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posted December 16, 2011 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks to me that your moon is tightly quindecile (165 deg aspect of relentless obsession) his sun (with it's conj to moon).

In my experience, quindeciles in synastry are very powerful .. signifying a very passionate connection, unrelenting motivation, obsession, determination. It suggests a point of burning focus between the couple.

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posted December 16, 2011 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Taineberry.

I didn`t know that quindeciles were that strong, but yes, his Sun is quindecile my Moon, which rules my 8th house.
It is also parallel my Moon.

I just saw it yesterday that his Sun-Pluto-parallel "meets" my Moon-Pluto-contraparallel (which also involves my Uranus and Juno).


have you seen the quindecile in play often?

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posted December 16, 2011 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes .... venus/mars ... it was all consuming!

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posted December 16, 2011 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting question. There is ALWAYS an astrological answer. Did you check name asteroids, Ceri?

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posted December 16, 2011 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taineberry,

have you had other all consuming aspects which might have affected the feelings as well?

Something like Sun/Pluto, MOon/Pluto, Venus/Pluto, even Sun/Mars or Moon/Mars?


I am not saying that it was not the quindecile, as a matter of fact it would explain pretty much in the case here, but just want to know if the quindecile has been standing on its "own" or was supported by other aspects which could have had a similiar effect.

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posted December 16, 2011 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

yes, I think so, too, that the astrology shows it, just looking for exactly how.
The progressions might be a major factor here.
Maybe the quindecile, maybe even the parallels or midpoints.

Now name asteroids:

his name in my chart opposes my Karma (and coincidentally the ecclipse had been happening on this opposition. lol)


Funnily my name in his chart is on 7 Virgo, EXACTLY between my Lilith on 6 Virgo and Hekate on 8 virgo. LOL
(on my Draco name)

But all in all they are not overwhelmingly strong I guess.

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posted December 16, 2011 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus trine Pluto, but unfortunately not possible to tell any of the moon aspects due to uncertain birth time.

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posted December 17, 2011 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it your ascendant that falls on his Kaali?

I noticed the other day when I was poking around some astrology charts that guys I tended to feel a strong pull towards, have Kaali prominent in their chart in some way - one has it conjunct his sun, the other has it conjunct his ascendant.

I think strong Kaali in a dude attracts chicks, basically.

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posted December 17, 2011 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Kaali is too far off my ASC for my taste at least (over 4 degrees), BUT it conjuncts my NN/Neptune within one degree and is opposite my own Kaali within one degree. In the composite there is also a Siva-Kaali-trine with Mercury conjunct Venus in Scorpio, sextile both, Siva and Kaali.

I don`t know if that is it, but I noticed it, and I definitely am one of those who react to Kaali.

I find it interesting that he natally has Kaali-Neptune-conjunction.
In my chart there is a wide Kaali-Neptune - opposition (2-3 degrees).


And my Neptune conjuncts his Kaali, while his Neptune opposes mine. Though with Neptune in the brew, it is all pretty generational I guess.

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