posted December 15, 2011 04:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, I meant planet. Post the exact degree and minute of a planet in your chart, and I can look up which fixed star was there or near to it. I do not take aspects into account, only the conjunction.

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posted December 15, 2011 06:17 AM            

I use it mainly to check if a planet is on a fixed star. Astro.com and other sites apparently give only a very rough position; this book differentiates betweewn different latitudes as well.

posted December 15, 2011 09:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think that is a good description of a positive Moon-Pluto mother. What people sometimes forget that it is not all just manipulation and abuse and whatever, but sometimes Moon-Pluto just describes a mother who will fiercely protect her children; and will do anything to ensure their safety. Even if it means to get herself in danger.

I have a Scorpio mother and she is like that, too. Devoted, loyal and protective to the core.

(I do not have a "real" Moon-Pluto aspect as the trine has an orb of 8 degrees, but Moon is contraparallel Pluto and Pluto opposes IC)

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posted December 15, 2011 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
They give some meanings of the fixed stars, yes, but I donīt think they differentiate between different planets on the same star.

I use it mainly to check if a planet is on a fixed star. Astro.com and other sites apparently give only a very rough position; this book differentiates betweewn different latitudes as well.

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Not sure, but I think Brady only works with fixed stars parans as well, not the standard natal chart aspects to fixed stars so might get a wrong reading if we applied standard natal star aspects to it. The astrodienst site does have the parans available for free though as well.

Click on "Special Charts" and there's a whole section full of them in the dropdown menu - "Parans and Star Phases".

posted December 15, 2011 09:18 AM            

I am also very interested in antiscia / contrascia.

Anyway, so I am having this Aqua-Moon, and I DO identify with it, but this Moon is involved in a parallel with Uranus (figures, I guess) and a contraparallel with Pluto. And Moon-Pluto makes sense as well, especially the contradiction of Moon-uranus and Moon-Pluto.

I am disgressing, but I was wondering about the strength of parallels and contraparallels, if they are valid aspects ON THEIR OWN (without accompanying aspects in the longitudes).

What is your experience?

posted December 15, 2011 09:19 AM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
Could you look up "heliacal rising star: Sirius" in there for me?

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I will do so when I come home.

Yes, to my shame I must admit, that I haven`t had the time to REALLY study the book yet, and it will take time of study for me to really understand it all.

posted December 15, 2011 11:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That is interesting that you mention that, cause I was reading up on declinations JUST yesterday.

I am also very interested in antiscia / contrascia.

Anyway, so I am having this Aqua-Moon, and I DO identify with it, but this Moon is involved in a parallel with Uranus (figures, I guess) and a contraparallel with Pluto. And Moon-Pluto makes sense as well, especially the contradiction of Moon-uranus and Moon-Pluto.

I am disgressing, but I was wondering about the strength of parallels and contraparallels, if they are valid aspects ON THEIR OWN (without accompanying aspects in the longitudes).

What is your experience?

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I've read about parallels/contraparallels on other the Astrodienst forums, there's been a few threads about them there lately. What everyone said was that they're basically legitimate aspects in their own right, and still 'count'. So basically even if the two planets in question don't aspect one another in the standard, typical sense (sextile, square, conjunction, trine), that the parallel or contraparallel aspects to them still count.

But if the two planets do form a standard aspect to each other AND have a parallel or contraparallel, that makes them even more significant and a pivotal point in the chart and that means you should pay more attention to them.

Parallels are like conjunctions, either slightly weaker conjunctions or super-strong conjunctions, depending on who you ask.

posted December 15, 2011 03:37 PM            

"But if the two planets do form a standard aspect to each other AND have a parallel or contraparallel, that makes them even more significant and a pivotal point in the chart and that means you should pay more attention to them."
Yes, I read that this is a "planetary ecclipse" (at least if two planets are conjunct and parallel; that is not true for other aspects of course). I actually have one in my chart.

Mars conjuncts Neptune: 4°46
Mars parallel Neptune: 0°47

I noticed something else, too, and that is that often if there is a parallel, the two planets severaare either conjunct or on the antiscion of each other. Though maybe that is only true for the Cappy-Saggy placements, (and cancer - Gemini) as they are so close to the solstice points.

About contraparallels being likened to oppositions, I have always heard that as well.

But yesterday stumbled across this bit in the book "Declination in astrology" by Paul F. Newman:

posted December 15, 2011 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BP,

I am sorry, but I am actually to dumb to read the maps and tables in this book.
I shouldn`t have promised to look it up, but I didn`.t think I would find it THAT confusing.

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They're that bad, eh? LMAO

posted December 15, 2011 05:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

"What everyone said was that they're basically legitimate aspects in their own right, and still 'count'."
Thank you.

"But if the two planets do form a standard aspect to each other AND have a parallel or contraparallel, that makes them even more significant and a pivotal point in the chart and that means you should pay more attention to them."
Yes, I read that this is a "planetary ecclipse" (at least if two planets are conjunct and parallel; that is not true for other aspects of course). I actually have one in my chart.

Mars conjuncts Neptune: 4°46
Mars parallel Neptune: 0°47

I noticed something else, too, and that is that often if there is a parallel, the two planets severaare either conjunct or on the antiscion of each other. Though maybe that is only true for the Cappy-Saggy placements, (and cancer - Gemini) as they are so close to the solstice points.

About contraparallels being likened to oppositions, I have always heard that as well.

But yesterday stumbled across this bit in the book "Declination in astrology" by Paul F. Newman:

"it is a bridging between hemispheres and need not have the negative connotation of opposite energy."

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posted December 16, 2011 02:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
They give some meanings of the fixed stars, yes, but I donīt think they differentiate between different planets on the same star.

I use it mainly to check if a planet is on a fixed star. Astro.com and other sites apparently give only a very rough position; this book differentiates betweewn different latitudes as well.

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I see. So to find the exact position of Spica, you need my latitude? I will email you.