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CrazyAquarian
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posted March 01, 2012 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wondering what a Nessus informed person would say about it conjunct 10th house cusp.

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this is information I have collated, just hope it helps...

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Thus the astrological Nessus represents a variety of themes: betrayed trust, poisonous jealousy, but chiefly inappropriate sexual actions, anything from outright rape to harassment at work. As such, Nessus often shows up prominently in the charts of sexual offenders or those whose sexual antics become a scandal or a point of public notice. In this day and age, things such as sexting can be included in Nessus’ bailiwick.

Nessus was killed by Heracles in revenge for having sex with Heracles’ wife Deianeira. He manages to kill Heracles in return using Deianeira as a kind of unwitting contract murderer whom he deceives into ending her husband’s life years later. Of the three, Nessus’ death is the most complex, which is noteworthy because a structural key to understanding the action or meaning of a Centaur planet is how the Centaur dies in the myth. Death, as in the tarot, represents the means of transformation.
Where Nessus is at work, you can look for a complex web of interrelation, a sequence of events where one thing leads to another but the pieces of the story don’t necessarily seem connected. You may have to connect the dots and see the pattern for yourself.

There may be some form of abuse of trust, and it may be subtle — until you see it clearly for what it is. An abuse pattern indicated by Nessus can be psychological, physical or sexual in nature; it can involve �potentially inappropriate’ [but not necessarily inappropriate] contact or behavior; and it can involve revenge. Nessus has themes that feel like the return of karma that may have an extremely long trajectory, like a boomerang that takes the long way around the world.

Actions have consequences, and once you notice those effects, you can almost always discover the source. Nessus is a very helpful diagnostic tool in handling situations with these themes of betrayal, deception, murder, sexual abuse and sexual infidelity. It works just as well to reveal something about where and how we’ve been hurt in the past, and how we’re likely to hurt others ây and how we can heal that pattern and its resulting injuries.

Nessus refers to the power dynamics that underly any form of abuse âe vitally important themes today in the western world, as we discover we were all abused as kids. Power and abuse dynamics always appear in relationships first, then they appear in one’s inner emotional patterning, and the relationship pattern of that lifetime. Nessus reminds us that physical abuse and psychological abuse work about the same way, and suggests that quite often psychological abuse is more insidious because so often we don’t know it’s happening, and we don’t necessarily think it happened. Nessus can reveal what is invisible in an abuse pattern.

Nessus can point to the circumstances that surround rape, incest, sexually-transmitted diseases and, moreover, the psychological and emotional relationship patterns that create these things. Put two charts together and you can see something about how these dynamics appear between people. Nessus can be used to investigate the lives of our parents and their relationships to others in the family. In most of our charts, Nessus is in a conjunction to another Centaur named Hylonome. This conjunction went on for quite a long time (extending from Taurus into Gemini) and represents the darker side of the 1950s and 1960s in which we were all suffering enormously as kids under the social changes of the era and our parents frequent inability to process the lives they were somehow forced to live or not live.

Abuse can be overt. But it can also involve being left unparented for long periods of time when you needed help, love or warmth; it can include being made to sleep in a crib in a separate room from your parents as an infant. It can involve the way you are spoken to, or violence you are exposed to in your environment.

Nessus can point to information, people and circumstances that help lift the veil. These patterns may relate to circumstances and emotions surrounding our mother’s pregnancy (particularly in situations involving adoption), feelings about sex that permeate the family, attitudes toward children, and the general psychological climate of the household.
In between 2005 and 2007, Chiron and Nessus were in a conjunction in Aquarius. The conjunction highlights the intentionally deceptive nature of the news media, particularly broadcast media. Contrary to popular perception, the media is used as a tool to manipulate public perception rather than inform the public, and studying this process at this time would make an interesting study of how Nessus functions, particularly in.

Part of the responsibility for this surely lies with centaur Nessus, a comet-like body which orbits between Neptune and Saturn. Nessus is named for a character in Greek myth whom Hercules killed after the lusty centaur had tried some funny business with Hercules’ wife Deianeira while carrying her across a river. With his dying breath the wily Nessus tells Deianeira that his blood will bring the hero back to her if he ever strays, so she collects and keeps it. Later, when she suspects Heracles is untrue, she smears the blood on a shirt and sends it to her husband, realizing too late that the blood is actually poisonous. Fatally wounded with the burns caused by the blood, Heracles expires in agony, and Zeus grants him immortal life on Olympus.

Interpretation
“There have been very few investigations into the astrological significance of Nessus. Owing to the fact that its own orbit connects those of Saturn and Pluto it is by analogy the centaur most closely connected with Plutonian themes such as power, guilt, revenge, repentance and redemption. No figure in the myth remains innocent: Not Heracles, who was fleeing because he had killed, not Nessos, because he tried to rape Heracles' wife, and not Deianeira whose jealousy led to the unintentional death of her husband. In this sense the message of the myth is to distance oneself from accusations of guilt. Unethical behaviour is not limited to others. No-one can absolve themselves completely. Whoever takes it upon themselves to judge ends up harming themselves. In order to be absolved of any guilt one must accept it and do penitence. Only then comes redemption” http://wiki.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Nessus

vendettas blood feuds, healing, forgiveness - resonates like Pluto

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The asteroid Nessus is the abuser’s asteroid, you could say. If someone has a strong Nessus placement, they will have to deal with the darkest of human passions. They will be drawn to dark things. They will have darker urges than a person without a strong Nessus. However, that person can put those urges in to something positive. I have a friend who is a nurse anaesthetist. She has confronted her own darkness. She will be the first to buck a crowd and stand up for someone who is being abused. That is because she has dealt with these dark forces and is not afraid of them. So, someone with a strong Nessus does not have to abuse. However, they will HAVE to go to the center of these dark energies and come out as a hero.

RW nessus conj mercury 18’48” Taurus 4th and nessus 21’33” (3’orb?)


Nessus - the buck stops here.
“The 3rd Centaur to be discovered is one that seems to address issues to do with the abuse of power, and it too has ancestral implications. It seems that Nessus brings opportunities to understand and release deep patterns of helplessness, being taken advantage of, and being oppressed. This is particularly relevant for people raised in a culture where they are in a minority group. Nessus processes really do seem to bring to an end the unfathomable ties that bind us to people, places, and situations
Nessus activations correspond with times when things really do end, finish and transcend to another level, when release occurs and when the turning point is reached. This sometimes happens through an intensification of suffering. The end of falsely hopeful innocence is signalled by Nessus transits, and the opening of a deeper wisdom. Nessus sometimes correlates with itching and burning skin as occurs in instances of eczema, nettle rash and allergy for instance.” http://www.melaniereinhart.com/melanie/astrologyarticles/chiron-and-centaurs.php

NESSUS IN ACTION
Let me relate two brief stories from my own experience.
When Nessus was transiting my eighth house, it reached opposition to my natal Nessus. At that time, I was living with Sandra, and she was pregnant with our child. When the opposition was exact, it also was only minutes away from exact conjunction to Sandra's Neptune. At this time, we received the news that the baby had Triploidy.....an extra set of chromosomes......and that most babies with this condition died in the womb, sometimes jeopardizing the life of the mother. Of the few that survived, not one lived more than five months, and all had to stay on life support. We had to make the decision to induce labor, and have the baby born early, stillborn. It was just about the most painful decision either of ever had to make.
When Nessus was stationary over my ninth house Moon, the woman I loved left the United States to go spend a month living with a man in another country....a man she was considering moving in with. I was so full of hurt/anger, especially at the other man, and wanted more than anything to lash out at him, even if only verbally.
Both of these events changed my life, and both forced me to reach down deep within myself. There was a lot of pain in both situations, but in another way, they both were a catharsis, which helped me know myself better, and to accept that there were thoughts/feelings I had which I had previously tried to repress as 'bad'.
Nick Campion editor of Transit, the astrologer's newsletter, wrote of Nessus: "Could it be that this planetary body encompasses the idea of science and the metaphysical approach working together for higher knowledge?" Interesting concept, since astrologers joined with astronomers to name this Centaur. (See this site for the whole quote: http://www.zanestein.com/nessus.htm


This is not an exhaustive answer but should give a quick grasp. Interpretations are for dark, afflicted charts of males, and are negative interpretations only. Positive interps will be given later where the charts are not afflicted.
Nessus in First
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Will shamelessly ask for sex, will make loud lewd comments and are never concerned about their reputation for being sex obsessed.
Nessus in 2nd
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Likely to have suffered emotional abuse by parents, especially mother. Will have a subconscious urge to taunt women and harass them in a twisted way of getting back at the taunts from mother or mother figure.
Nessus in 3rd
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May have abused or suffered physical abuse from a sibling or friend of a sibling. Susceptible to sexually harassing using gadgets: crank calls, sexting, lewd emails and susceptible to using foul, demeaning language against women.
Nessus in 4th
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Susceptible to abusing wife and kids at home, may indulge in wife-beating before sex.
Nessus in 5th
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Sex Addict. In severely afflicted cases, will be a paedophile.
Nessus in 6th
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Susceptible to psychopathic behavior towards women, serial rapist aspect because of mental illness. Could have been sexually abused as a child. Can play a poor victim to attract his next victim.
Nessus in 7th
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Will be very sexually demanding of his partner, may even attempt date-rape.
Nessus in 8th
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Fated to abuse or suffer from abuse, in the worst case may murder a victim.
Nessus in 9th
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Will have a fetish for indulging in abusive sex with foreign girls. Sexual Predator tourist.
Nessus in 10th
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Will try to make money by peddling hardcore pornography, will be happy being a pimp. When in the upper rungs of the corporate ladder, can sexually harass female subordinates or demand sex for giving raises etc.
Nessus in 11th
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Abusive behavior towards friends and acquaintances. Not a trustworthy friend. Will not hesitate to pimp a known person.
Can be obsessed with pornography.
Nessus in 12th
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Susceptible to dark fantasies of abusive sex. Even demonic fantasies. May have been traumatically abused as a child without his conscious awareness.

The house interpretations I think came from IQ on here...

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ariesdragon
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posted March 07, 2012 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol pimping foreigners bahahaha jk

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Ami Anne
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posted March 07, 2012 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think Nessus conj a cusp would be that big of a placement

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posted November 28, 2012 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krista_Kay_1993     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nessus in 10th
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Will try to make money by peddling hardcore pornography, will be happy being a pimp. When in the upper rungs of the corporate ladder, can sexually harass female subordinates or demand sex for giving raises etc.
o.O woahhh

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posted November 06, 2013 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nessus in Libra in 6th house.
CONJUNCT SUN.
Square Neptune and MC.
Semi-sextile Pluto.
Does anyone know something about it???!?

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posted November 09, 2013 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nessus conj. Venus exact in the first , interesting explaination ... Pluto is exactly opposing now ... Hasn't been an easy transit!
I counsel peeps esp. Couples this is probably the positive manifestation. But all my relationships were difficult I have a Venus square Pluto natally though .

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posted November 09, 2013 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nessus conjunct Venus for women means your more likely to attract men who are obsessed with sex and/or have a control streak.

Nessus doesn't abide by the same laws of society and thrives on what he wants is simply what he wants.

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posted November 09, 2013 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If their is such a place as a "Heaven and Hell" Using the energy of Nessus would garentee you a place in the latter.

I have him conjunct my ascendant from the 12th house in Scorpio - 3 Degree orb.

Luckily i've learnt how to control it, most of the time the desire is only mischievous things, taking an extra bit of food etc.

But sometimes it the middle of town say, i would just get the urge to stare at someones butt, or start talking sexually to a female.

The desires can be powerfully unmorally right so Nessus needs to learn to be controlled wherever it is in the Natal chart.

Once you have mastered Nessus you can use it for the power of healing.

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posted November 10, 2013 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ail221:
Nessus conjunct Venus for women means your more likely to attract men who are obsessed with sex and/or have a control streak.

Nessus doesn't abide by the same laws of society and thrives on what he wants is simply what he wants.



LOL true he is , were very open I guess that's why it works. I am shock proof. He has Nessus conj.Bacchus in Virgo. we don't abide by society's rules I am 10 years older ...!

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posted November 10, 2013 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoFish:
If their is such a place as a "Heaven and Hell" Using the energy of Nessus would garentee you a place in the latter.

I have him conjunct my ascendant from the 12th house in Scorpio - 3 Degree orb.

Luckily i've learnt how to control it, most of the time the desire is only mischievous things, taking an extra bit of food etc.

But sometimes it the middle of town say, i would just get the urge to stare at someones butt, or start talking sexually to a female.

The desires can be powerfully unmorally right so Nessus needs to learn to be controlled wherever it is in the Natal chart.

Once you have mastered Nessus you can use it for the power of healing.


LOL Looking is not bad, I guess you have to find an outlet, in Scorpio usually anything under the 8th house , any placements there and aspects ???
Occult subjects, relating to others honestly, or a partner who understands you would help , right??

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posted March 19, 2014 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Nessus conjunct saturn in a natal chart?

And Nessus conjunct vertex in synastry?

Thank you!

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posted March 19, 2014 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CANCERDRAGON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can somebody tell me what is my potential for getting abused or be the abuser according to nessus energy? Also can you explain to me what does it mean when there is an -2°30s (for example) next to aspect?

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posted March 19, 2014 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CANCERDRAGON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry for being an complete idiot..

I don't know how to post a picture here
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140319065849AAvh40w

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posted March 19, 2014 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Cancerdragon

I will look later, my Friend.

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posted March 19, 2014 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nessus is the dench centaur who wants to abuse, do things extremely, to be the hardest, strongest, most powerful, wants to be the Man and have power over women etc, not always as extreme as its portrayed. Different for the different generations.

Couples with Dejanira.

Nessus is like a vulnerability scanner and Dejanira is your vulnerability.

If you're from the Aquarian generation ..

Nessus conjunct the MC .. well your vulnerability scanner will always be Public, not that prominent if it's not conjunct any other bodies, might walk around like you're a "badman" in public haha.

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posted March 19, 2014 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CANCERDRAGON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about my nessus square venus I read on this forum that is not good for woman

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posted March 19, 2014 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CANCERDRAGON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My MC doesn't have any aspect to my Nessus

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