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ariesdragon
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posted March 07, 2012 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You both are Awesome btw hugs xx
Ok... So valentine is at 5 degrees sag
Trine pholus @ 1 degree cap

Thanks for teaching me I love it!

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ariesdragon
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posted March 07, 2012 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg I found my problem!

2nd House. Roaming access to your account and temporary loss of money when Pholus is in the second house. Pholus has it's own oblique ways to make you find the things you miss in life.

3rd House. Briefs such as this analysis, quick schedule builders, blitz interviews and a sense of overall improvisation with Pholus in third.

Pholus thelepats your favorite city and escape destination.

4th House. Changes are studied and patterns of timespace arrange for insight with Pholus nadiring. This is the position of the master spy. Snooping around the kitchen in the early morning makes for a paparazzo scoop in the late evening.

5th House. Celibacy and meditation with Pholus in fifth. One definitively has no love for trivia. To others he might seem a troublemaker.The lover as companion in adventure.

6th House. Pholus in sixth. Rituals such as of left tantra. Success as seaman. Swiss banks protect your capital. A discrete standard even after heavy taxing. Generally a symptom of good health.

7th House. Unmarried does not mean haremless. When Pholus is in the 7th house, the soul mate is from another place. It might even be off the planet or from dreamworld.

8th House. This is a very loving position. Tears will clean the way to sincerity. Davison relationship synastry chart reports will determine the time of love.

9th House. Dreaming together and contacts with your guru in the astral kingdom. Pholus is about traveling and is accordingly obviousely strong in 12th 3rd and 9th.

10th House. Artists could profit from this position. The would be guru has yet to discard his uman frame. Media like TV. Not a steady job at ll, movimentated career, paid not to work, poltron, flatterer, double agent.

11th House. Moving inside his own clan he keeps the core sincere. Pholus is a happy family man when the big clan prospers and perhaps lively transactions happen from within it's circle. An advice increase severity and nevertheless cherish the woman as the centre of the clan. This is NASDAQ's position.

12th House. Samadhi is the end of married life. Yin and Yang unmarry here. Tao knows neither Yin nor Yang. One quits entangling himself with the world of duty, parents long gone, he quits mindane business and has false mind ("his" ego) as the only devil to face to the end. TrueMind takes over, dissolving the salt doll of "ego" or "foreign instal", daily mind. Events funneled, as if guided by a mysterious hidden god. TrueMind in the movie director's seat.
Astro.com posted by tigerlily on LL

Great info!

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ariesdragon
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posted March 07, 2012 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lmao sorry it didn't copy the 1st house how ironic hmmm and it's where my pholus is

1st House. This is a position of the cosmopolitan mind. Pholus on the ascendant or in the first house marks a mobile and unregular life.

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posted March 07, 2012 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to pholus he makes it hard for the stable life
I've always dreamed of. I don't like pholus anymore.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 07, 2012 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Thanks to pholus he makes it hard for the stable life
I've always dreamed of. I don't like pholus anymore.


I will come back to study these posts. Don't despair. He is only one placement. Your hardest placement in my opinion would be Moon in the 12th.

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posted March 07, 2012 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I will come back to study these posts. Don't despair. He is only one placement. Your hardest placement in my opinion would be Moon in the 12th.



Thanks ami whenever you wish I still don't like pholus tho haha

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posted March 07, 2012 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry forgot to link! but u found it anyway hehe!

i have pholus 3degs conj to mercury in aries h6. i know a lot of asteroids conj my merc and i even made a thread bout it but i can't seem to find it anymore..

A combination of Pholus and Mercury, for example, can indicate highest precision and almost magic power of a person�s mercurial abilities, or on the contrary legastheny and dyscalculia.

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posted March 07, 2012 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Experiences with natal positions of Pholus

A person with a prominent natal Pholus is in his actions guided by impulses whose motivation he is not really aware of. Actually, he is confronted with energies or parts of his nature that are not incarnated, i.e. that hang over or about him like a cloud (Neptune, the aphelion of Pholus) and urge towards incarnation (Saturn, Pholus� perihelion) within the material world. In other words: Pholus stands for parts of our nature from which we are still cut off and with which we try to get into contact. The parts in question may be those which cannot be soundly unfolded, or on the other hand a domain where the person intently strives for and with time even reaches great progresses. A combination of Pholus and Mercury, for example, can indicate highest precision and almost magic power of a person�s mercurial abilities, or on the contrary legastheny and dyscalculia.

Pholic impulses are blind in a sense. They press on being realized even if they do not "know", what could be their appropriate place in the actual order of life. On the contrary, they are in conflict with the established conditions. The person in question may feel impelled to actions, motions or gestures that give rise to disastrous life situations. So, Pholus finds himself in a strain between self-destruction and enlargement of his own character by additional energies or horizons of experience. The pholic person walks on the narrow path of great and seemingly easy success, with the risk of catastrophic slips. Whatever happens, afterwarts the person is altered. He has broken with his past, has stripped off an old skin (Greek pholis means "squama" or "skin"), has got over a rocky edge and unexpectedly attained a wonderful tableland, or else is stumbled over it into a precipice.

Instead of blindness, Pholus sometimes gives visionary power. In the myth he is a haruspex, i.e. he reads from the entrails of offered animals. People with Pholus at the IC are often very inspired, sometimes spiritual channels or fortune-tellers or work with the pendulum. But in the myths, the seer is often blind. It is not easy to dream the future and, at the same time, actually realize the present circumstances. More details on the interpretation of Pholus can be found - for those who read German - in our book on Pholus. (s. Bibliography)


Experiences with transits of Pholus

It goes without saying that, besides the study of mythology, astronomy and the effects of Pholus in natal charts, his qualities in transits had to be investigated, too. A new planet must cause distinct experiences when transiting, for example, the natal sun or the ascendent. This is especially true if it belongs to the slow-moving ones and the transit lasts for several months or even years (in case of delay by one or several retrogradations).

Therefore we decided to place Pholus on this kind of probation, too: we collected detailed experience reports of volunteers for all important Pholus transits during their hitherto life. Thereby, we took into account conjunctions, squares and oppositions of transiting Pholus with respect to natal main axes, main planets, Chiron, Pholus himself and the lunar nodes, as well as passages through the Placidian houses. The maximal orb we used was 2�. We listed the periods of pholic influences in their varying lengths in form of a table beginning with the birth and ending at the present time and presented them to the participants. To avoid the danger of influencing them, we gave no hints on the kind of transit or the factors involved. So they groped in the dark, as it were. Only after they had returned us their written experience reports, we commented on their respective transit theme in a personal talk and searched after deeper meanings.

To our surprise, the most transits of Pholus in the lifes of our informants had been accompanied by subjectively important and impressing events and developments. The only exception seemed to be the transits of Pholus over the lunar nodes: people were seldom able to report something. But apart from that, in almost all cases, especially at conjunctions, the participants used to mention distinctly noticeable changes and developments, be it during a house passage or a planetary transit, though they did not know at all what transit was in question. Of course, we investigated whether there were other transits involved, but this turned out to be true only seldom.

While evaluating the reports we could with time sift out the following typical transit qualities of Pholus that used to show up in the lifes of the participants both in disagreeable and agreeable variations:

Pholus intensifies the natal factor affected by him in a way that we are impelled to unusual and often thoughtless actions in the domain in question. Frequently one feels a kind of "goaded on" and under a hardly sustainable permanent strain.
An underdeveloped facet of the affected part of our personality suddenly appears. On the one hand, this often gives us a spontaneous insight into our deficiencies in the domain concerned. On the other hand, it drives us even more towards a change.
The participants often felt a wish of riddance. The old and hitherto sheltering way of life becomes too "limited" and is stripped off without much effort and sometimes even "accidentally" (cf. pholis, squama". A skinning effect). Some persons characterized this process as an "awakening" of new energies, capabilities and insights, often accompanied by a strong enthusiasm.
Pholus seems to launch us again and again into unexpected frontier situations, where we feel demanded too much and eventually exceed the bounds of our possibilities. In these periods of transition from a suddenly lost security (Saturn) we find ourselves helplessly exposed to and confronted with the neu haziness (Neptune). In this situation we run great risk of calamitous misreactions (self-sabotage, accidents; cf. Pholus death in the myth). On the other hand, this "wobbly" state may give rise to a positive new beginning that leads into a richer and intenser life. In both cases there is a tendency, that the subconsciousness determines the "course".
After all we found that almost all Pholus transits mark more or less important turning-points in life. People often leave behind old things relatively fast and spontaneously, open themselves to unknown new things and therewith grow out of their old self. The way in which this happens with Pholus transits distinctly differs from those of the known planets, as sketched above. So, Pholus is indeed clearly perceptible in transits, and according to our experiences his astrological power is by all means equal to other main planets� transits. For instance, we recommend to look at the transition of Pholus over the rising or setting points. At those times there was an important turning-point in the lifes of most of the participants of our transit research, though nothing of such kind had been indicated by transits of other main planets. Experiences of similar importance were undergone at passage times of Pholus over MC and IC...

more on Pholus: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006689.html

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posted March 08, 2012 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stirthestars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quote from Zane (http://en.allexperts.com/q/Astrology-2205/pholus-moon.htm)----
'First, I do have a webpage dedicated to Pholus, which you may find interesting: http://www.zanestein.com/pholus.htm

Pholus conjunct the Moon intensifies one's feelings, but makes them a bit more erratic. In some people, there is a very frequent urge to be spontaneous, to cross the line from the safe into the uncharted. Others feel blocked, inhibited,
because of this aspect, yet have a great need to grow...and at some point, they usually break free from the block and do something extreme, as though the urge for change was building up just waiting for release.

Here is what I wrote in my book about Chiron conjunct the Moon. Combine this with the above, I guess, to see a combination of all three bodies. (I have not personally met someone who had Chiron, Pholus and the Moon all conjunct.):

"Vibrations of many types affect these people, so they must learn early in life some deep philosophy which takes into account unseen forces. This may be manifest in profound religion, but need not be. These people are also extremely susceptible to influence from their personal environment, and soon develop very unique criteria [tastes] about what it takes to make them comfortable. Many live in residences that are anything but normal; one may purposely seek out a place that is haunted; another may move into a house made entirely of rubber tires. Should they choose to, they can be great swayers of people¡¦s emotions because they can tune into some feeling common to everyone---some emotion everyone can identify themselves with.

It is often found that a person who has this natal aspect had a mother who was a pioneer in some way, or a researcher, or a specialized adventuress. It appears often that the mother has passed on to the child an abiding curiosity. It is also common that a person who has this aspect had a mother who was very much involved in health and healing, so that the child grew up with an instinctive understanding of how to help others. And, unless drastic indications in the chart point to the contrary, the Moon conjunct Chiron person usually feels very deeply the pains and sufferings of others."'
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I have pholus conjunct moon but I also have quite a lot of water signs. So I¡¦m not so sure about its effect on me.

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posted March 08, 2012 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DustyLibra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YAY! Another asteroid thread! I've been following these, trying to learn more. I found a really great site that helps you understand Pholus's effect on natal charts: http://www.astromarkt.net/index.php?id=100

Pholus + Sun: turning point in honour or lifestyle/health, something starts changing your life. In some cases the persons sex life was in the spotlight
Pholus+Moon: altering your needs, a turning point in habits
Pholus + Mercury: turning point in communications, something starts changing your ideas
Pholus + Venus: turning point in preferences or relations (with women); something or someone changes your preferences
Pholus + Mars: turning point in a battle (and with the inconjunction: getting hurt!) or sexlife; something starts changing your drives and energy
Pholus + Jupiter: turning point in conviction; something starts changing your convictions
Pholus+ Saturn: turning point in a career
Pholus+Uranus: sudden and unexpected change (perhaps due to an accident)
Pholus+Neptune: turning point in beliefs and ideals
Pholus+Pluto: dramatic turning point: the prize (or the price to pay) forcing a turning point (?), the pyrrhic victory
Pholus + Midheaven: turning point in a (domestic) career; something or someone changes your position in society
Pholus + Ascendant: coming out (at a certain point)
Pholus in synastry: the strong influence of someone, changing your life in a direct way.

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posted March 08, 2012 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good read!

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posted March 08, 2012 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great info Sand and DL! Thanks a lot

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posted March 08, 2012 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all! Wonderful info! Anyone else feel free to add also

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posted March 09, 2012 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so what happens when asteroids conjunct pholus essplode?

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