posted March 11, 2012 12:55 AM            

I just looked at the synastry of Myself and a good friend of mine and I found out that My "Lie" is conjunct his sun and his Lie is conjunct my Nothnode (also his south node we have a nodal reversal) and his own karma. When I saw this I felt really sad. I would never hurt him! and I know he would never hurt me. Its hard to explain but it made me feel upset. (Maybe some past life emotions tied to this feeling...??) But In this life this person is a dear friend. Someone who I will always have his back no matter what and him mine, this has been proven time and again. I just cannot imagine ever lying to this person in a deceitful way! However I am holding back my true feelings from him...I think I love him but have never and probally wont ever tell him that. Could this placement indicate that? Thanks heaps ??

Also I will add we do have alot of nice placements!
moon trine moon. pluto conjunct moon, his destinn conjunct my mc, psyche conjunct amor. mercury conjunct mercury, my angel conjunct his sun moon midpoint and his angel conjunct my sun moon midpoint.

I guess this relationship just means alot to me. We are close friends but not lovers- so thats why the lie placement seemed strange to me. However I do feel we both hold back our true feelings from eachother.

Any insight would be so appreciated

posted March 12, 2012 06:09 AM            

In the case where you already know the person and things have been harmonious, you must interpret even negative themed Asteroids like "LIE" with a positive spin.

Oskar Schindler also lied, but was it not for good? Thus, it is possible that you both will lie for each others well being. Or you both will protect one another from other liars or deceivers.

The holding back of feelings can be explained from the Synastry than from Asteroid Lie.

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posted March 12, 2012 06:54 AM            

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posted July 16, 2012 01:39 AM            

I admire your courage and brillance on this subject. I have a question for you, if you don't mine?

What does Lucifer conjunct Pluto in synastry mean?
The Woman is Pluto in Virgo in 4th House ruled by Virgo/Mercury.
The Man is Lucifer in Virgo in 6th House ruled by Virgo/Mercury.

Also what does Lie in Pisces conjunct Angel in Pisces mean?
Man is Lie in Pisces in 11th House ruled by Aquarius/Uranus.
Woman is Angel in Pisces in 10th House ruled by Pisces/Neptune. Her Angel in Pisces conjuncts Midheaven in Pisces as well (tight conjunction).

Any input you give is appreciated. Thank you. Actually I asked a similar question on another blog with a similar topic.

"I use therefore, I am." --Capricorn legacy

posted July 16, 2012 01:58 AM            

In the simplest form: The lady can complete her Spiritual Transformation out of our illusory Matrix by understanding the nature of her man's rebelliousness against the established or orthodox order.

The full understanding of Lucifer and Pluto needs an out of the box understanding of all religions and myths and cosmologies.

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posted July 16, 2012 02:08 PM            

Thank you IQ for your prompt response. I really appreciate it. I could not agree with you more about stepping out of the box and completely and totally leaving the orthodox and religious ways to experience human revolution and transformation. Wow this aspect in synastry seems interesting. Many Astrologers have told me our relationship is unconventional, unusual, disturbing, a Romeo and Juliet, too much sensitivity and violent! I haven't met this gentlemean yet, I just wanted to know him very well before I will meet him. I will meet him in October. We're both Capricorns!

The real truth unfortunately has been available only to those who are wealthy and powerful. I'm not a Christian, however, I do believe in the Christ's parable: "So a man thinketh, so a man is." The Christ was actually a Coptic and possibly a Buddhist as well.

For that matter, I actually do rituals, recite incantations and affirmations hundreds of times per day, think only of what I want to see appear for myself and everyone else. I remain gentle, patient, noble, generous and never allow myself to get angry for any reason. When I do pray, I pray believing I have already received the benefit. This prayer method is the way of the hunters and gatherers, our ancestors. I stay in constant gratitude and appreciation for everything, literally, everything from my body to the stars in the sky and every single soul on earth. The results have been amazing. Of course, I'm an extremist.

I admire your knowledge, everything you have said is so true. Have you read any of Carlos Castenada books like: The Eagle's Gift, Second Ring Of Power, and Tales Of Power. I think they would be of interest to you. This man was all about sorcery (not magic per se) and so far from secular religion. He had many ways of using everyday environment for things humans could never imagine. He's one of my favorite people in the world and he was a Capricorn and so is Mohammed Ali another favorite of mine.

I didn't mean to talk so much, but I wanted to ask you what does Lie in Pisces conjunct Angel in Pisces mean?
Man is Lie in Pisces in 11th House ruled by Aquarius/Uranus.
Woman is Angel in Pisces in 10th House ruled by Pisces/Neptune. Her Angel in Pisces conjuncts Midheaven in Pisces as well (tight conjunction).

Are these good aspects to have in synastry? Or does it really matter? Oh, please tell me more about Lucifer conjunct Pluto in synastry!

I appreciate your input. Thank you.

"I use therefore, I am." --Capricorn legacy

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Moon Aquarius
Mercury Capricorn
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Vertex Scorpio
Atlantis Scorpio
DNA Scorpio
Ixion Scorpio
Quaoar Scorpio
Lucifer Cancer
Kaali Taurus
Adonis Scorpio
Casanova Scorpio
Merlin Capricorn

posted February 17, 2015 04:32 AM            

In a friendship that i have,i have lie conjunct the guy's sun orb 2 and the guy's swindle conjunct my ascendant orb 1.

posted February 19, 2015 07:36 AM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
@Aurora: What I could understand after meditating on this is: The moment he thinks that you lied to him about something which for whatever reason hurts his Ego, he will try to swindle you. Need not be a financial swindle, it can be his attempt of reproducing the hurt within himself that he blames on your alleged lies to him.
The best way to thwart this possibility is to tell him about your charts openly and clarify that under no circumstance will you lie to him.

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Thank you IQ for explanation.I'll be sure to do that.

posted February 19, 2015 12:12 PM            

Is it saying I tend to lie or swindle ppl in love or out of love in relationships? The Sirene and Messalina are terrible to have next to the way you love!!
Sirene...Hypnotize men to draw them to their destruction?

Something that has happen often to me and I wonder if this is due to those astroids....is men lie to get me to be with them. Then I fall in love and eventually the truth comes out and I get my heart broken.

One guy I had a LD relationship with for a year, I asked how he could lie and deceive both of us for an entire year??
He said he didn't know, he got lost the fantasy and couldn't think straight. Once he came out of it and realized what he was doing he'd already fallen in love and was afraid to come clean to either of us, he was afraid neither would forgive him.
This lie did destroy him....his girlfriends father was a silent partner in his business. His best friend and business partner was the one who told me the truth, then tried to get me to date him. This if course broke up their friendship. They produced a hit TV show together on the Discovery channel, it lasted another year before it was canceled because they couldn't even be in the same room after that.
Another guy I had a similar story with....except he left his wife for me, but I didn't realize this. Also...she was pregnant when he left.
Sometime after I found out the truth and refused to see him, his wife took him back he moved from his apartment back to their home.
He started using drugs again after being totally clean for 5 years and an AA alumni. About a year n half after we split he died of an overdose. Since we split he'd lost his license to practice medicine because of the drugs....it said he had a heart attack in the news papers and obituary because he was a respected surgeon in the community. But anyone that was close to him feels it was suicide.
Both these guys had serious Karma with me, 1st one had Karma sitting on my Chiron, his Pluto exact inconjunct his Karma. My Karma was on his Uranus and my Pluto inconjunct his Saturn exact.

The other had Pluto/Venus and Karma in a tight grand trine with his Karma opposed my Saturn 1 degree, his 7th house libra Pluto was conjunct my Karma in my 12th house by 3 degrees.
I guess we could have helped each other. But his gem Venus opposed saggy Neptune/my Sun/my Merc and his 12th house pisces Mars squared all...in my opinion it was that t-square killed him!

Would that be the kind of destruction the Lie/Seindle/Sirene asteroids would create?
Needless to say now I ask a ton of questions and I watch like a hawk how they respond. I take lots of time getting to know them and check n double check their stories before I let then near me.

Messalina, I don't even want to think about, except for having a high sex drive when I fall in love, maybe? Should I open a brothel since it's conjunct Banks?? Lol
Im definitely not into or orgies, multiple partners or sharing partners...my Pluto conjunct Venus would rather die or be alone than share my guy with anyone!

I think you told me this shows a past life where I was possibly a prostitute or used sex to get what I wanted without thought about how I was hurting others....but I don't understand how it displays in my energy now?

I feel a little comforted that I have tight aspects with these negative asteroid with some very spiritual asteroids....
They make a tight grand trine with aqua Hermes in 5th and gemini Telephus in 9th
And tight sextile-
Saggy DNA, Angelica, Sekhemet, Hebe, Part of Fortune in 3rd house and leo Lachesis/Fortuna in 11th house
All between the degrees of 18-21 except Part of Fortune is saggy@22

posted May 29, 2015 07:57 AM            

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