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naturalbeige
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posted August 30, 2010 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naturalbeige     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While we're on the topic of Sedna, what aspects gives clues about how susceptible one is to bullying, since Sedna stresses on victimization and betrayal?

I have Sedna retrograde in the IC in Taurus, which opposes Venus and Pluto in the MC. I see that IC in Taurus indicates a peaceful home life, while the opposition may mean that I am vulnerable to bullying by other women.

I was bullied in elementary school and middle school, due to some girls being jealous of me for my intelligence and higher grades. I don't remember getting bullied much in high school, but college was awful. My roommates in college picked on me because I hardly wore make-up, and had more masculine tastes than they did. I listened to alternative rock, while they listened to pop and emo. I also hated the reality shows they watch and the magazines they read. My female roommates were superficial and thrive on drama, to be quite honest. There were times when our tastes clashed. To make things worse, the roommates called me names when I was struggling with depression in college and yelled at me for not being social enough.

Eventually, I had to transfer colleges (among other reasons) because the school did not do anything enough to prevent the mental abuse that was going on.

Now, that I have been living with my boyfriend, I realized that those girls were so insecure about themselves. I learned how to be stronger from those bullying episodes, although there were times that I do get self-conscious about how feminine I should act. But I am proud of being a strong woman that I am and that I don't give a damn about gender roles. I just want to be me.

I do get along with men easily compared to women, but I am working to improve myself in trusting women again.

Do any of you have experiences with bullying or being the bully according to your Sedna?

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posted August 30, 2010 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can relate

I got picked on a lot by other children when I was in school, especially when I was in special education. I got called "retard" on a normal basis. It was such a problem that my stepfather told me "If somebody hits you, hit them back"

Because I didn't fit male stereotypes and didn't do things like most boys could do, I got picked on a lot


When I was in the navy, I got picked on just because of my nature because people thought I was stupid and they made fun of how I talk.


I've been in fights in result of being picked on. I was suspended from school 5 times for fighting. 2nd grade,4th grade,6th grade,7th grade,and 11th grade

I've cussed people out too.


The Sedna energy can be used in positive ways like compassion,empathy, caring for humanity,environment,animals, and spirituality

a deeply shamanic energy

In my own chart:

Sedna in 2'06 Taurus R in 8th
oppose Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd
sextile Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th

in Right Ascension:
Sedna in 3'46 Taurus R
oppose Sun in 3'02 Scorpio
sextile Moon in 4'24 Pisces


I have Sun,Moon,and Sedna in a Wedge configuration. Moon trine Sun and sextile Sedna indicates that Moon is the outlet for the tension of my Sun oppose Sedna.
The aspects in the Wedge configuation are narrower in Right Ascension than they are in the regular chart.


Sedna is also strong in the 11th Harmonic.....part of a 11th Harmonic aspect pattern (11th harmonic has Uranus/Aquarius/11th house influence)
Ascendant 4'11 Sedna - '26
Mercury 5/11 Sedna - '07
Mars 2'11 Sedna - '45
Saturn 1/11 Sedna - '17
Uranus 5/11 Sedna - '26

with corresponding midpoint pictures
Mercury oppose Saturn/Sedna - '17
Sedna oppose Mercury/Uranus - 1'6

Mercury,Saturn,Uranus,Sedna in 11th harmonic Isosceles Trapezoid
with corresponding midpoint picture
Mercury/Sedna oppose Saturn/Uranus - '01

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posted August 30, 2010 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dealt with bullying, as well. I knew the day that I finally showed them they'd upset me - when I finally had a few tears escape, lowered my head, and heard sneering, "Is she crying?" that I had to get out of there. I'd had panic attacks that developed when I was small, that only got worse as I dealt with that, worsening as I moved to the next school. Those years messed me up socially, and even though I knew they didn't know me, and that they were wrong, I also ended up feeling abnormal, wondering if there was something really wrong with me - my personality would disappear in social situations, which is fine if people have no trouble with you blushing, and smiling (or accidentally showing your discomfort), being too quiet, and having them show relief when you actually say something...

I don't know where my Sedna is.. I'll have to check later on.

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posted August 30, 2010 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sedna in the 1st house...In conjunction with Moon, opposing Pluto in the 7th, trine Neptune in 9th...don't know what would that mean though, cause I don't know much about Sedna, but it doesn't seem nice...Could someone give an interpretation of this, please?

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posted August 30, 2010 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

like every object,

Sedna has its positives too and not just negatives

the following is from Philip Sedgwick:

Positive - a forgiving disposition, discernment, clarity of perception, recognition of free will and choice, responsible, conscious of consequence, far thinking, dharma-oriented, does the homework of life


Negative - victimization, abuse, being deceived, history of betrayal, bitterness, “gold digging” attitude in relationship, transfers blame to others, numbs out, goes unconscious
http://philipsedgwick.com/

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posted August 30, 2010 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still need to find my Sedna... I was just thinking of how I got very upset, late last year, and again at times this year, when I realized how much I'd missed out on socially, during the years that I barely interacted with anyone socially, due to my anxiety (I'm still too isolated a lot of the time, but it isn't by choice).

When you go through that, you tend to forget how many good people there are, out in the world. It was something that I knew, but I was always expecting the axe to fall - I was always expecting them to change on a dime. I still fight that feeling.

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posted August 30, 2010 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naturalbeige     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, teasel.

Your statement about you thought you were abnormal as the result of bullying resonated with me. I hope that you get help for your social anxiety.

I thought that there was something wrong with me too. So much so that I questioned my sexual orientation. I thought I was bisexual at first (due to me acting "more masculine" than the mean girls), but then I decided that I may not be and that I don't care. I just don't have time to worry about what I am at this point.

I later realized that the bullying has nothing to do with my orientation in the first place!

I haven't been with a woman, fyi. When it comes to love, I don't want to use it as a fling or something really temporary. I have a boyfriend now and we're happy together. And if I'm also attracted to women, then so be it. But only time will tell.

I hope that you find someone supportive who can help you get through with your social anxiety. My boyfriend and therapist made me realize how insecure those girls were.

The most important thing to learn... be yourself and don't worry about what others think of you.

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posted August 31, 2010 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The social anxiety may possibility be connected to an ultrasensitivity leading to sensory overload from the environment.

Sedna does have the greatest average distance of all. Sedna relates to the extremely subtle.

Therefore Sedna people are extremely attuned to subtleties. These people are ultrasensitive which is still an understatement for their sensitivity.

Alison Chester-Lambert wrote some insightful things about Sedna.

pages 172 - 173
From her new book:
THE FUTURE IN THE STARS


Sedna feels at one with, and has authority over, the whole of creation. As a planet, she travels nearly to the next Solar System and back. She feels the pain and loneliness of nearly 11,000 years on her own, and responsibility for the essence or soul of creation. If you have the capacity for that much awareness, it's hard to feel content with the mundane aspects of day to day life.

People who resonate with this should try channeling into animal charities. Become concerned about arctic matters. If you choose to eat animals, which Sedna is not oppose to in the myth, try to eat only those animals that you feel were more properly respected.

Become aware that everything is one and you are part of it. Feel your connectedness. Become a caretaker of the planet. The Pagans, Druids, and Wiccans have understood this all along. Sedna has come to give the message a focus, and raise awareness globally. The stakes are too high for any one of us to ignore them.

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posted August 31, 2010 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Glaucus for the extended info on Sedna ...I never knew why I was far more sensitive than the average person with their moon placed in the 1st house...I recently discovered Sedna & saw that I have a conjunction of Moon & Sedna, so that may be the reason...

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posted August 31, 2010 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Chaos,

WOW! Cool!

What's the orb on that?

that's like a super Moon conjunct Neptune with a dose of Pluto

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posted August 31, 2010 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Chaos,
WOW! Cool!

What's the orb on that?

that's like a super Moon conjunct Neptune with a dose of Pluto


3 degree conjunction with Moon
3 degree trine with Neptune
1 degree opposition with Pluto

Does it even count if it's 3 degrees or more? :/

Also, a minor aspect, an exact (less than 1 degree)sesquiquadrate with Uranus

EDIT: It's also retrograde & in Taurus

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posted August 31, 2010 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah

I use 3 degrees for maximum orb, but if the Moon is involved, the orb could be extended a little
that's the same with Sun,Ascendant,and Midheaven


it's possible,that your Moon-Sedna conjunction is narrower in Right Ascension. This true for my own Sun-Sedna opposition which is 3'15 in the regular chart but is 44 minutes of arc in Right Ascension which makes my Sun-Sedna opposition a strong theme that can't be ignored.


Right Ascension is just as valid as Ecliptic Longitude which is the regular chart.

Clairvision Astrologers say that Right Ascension Chart is the Manifestation Chart.


Right ascension charts

There are 2 main systems of coordinates on the celestial sphere. One is based on the ecliptic, the other one is based on the celestial equator. One can therefore conceive 2 ways of drawing charts:

* The usual way is based on the ecliptic – not right ascension. As we saw when discussing celestial longitude and latitude, a 'normal' astrological chart is a graphic representation of planetary longitudes. The zodiac band which has the ecliptic as its middle) is drawn, and the planets are placed on it according to their longitude.
* In a right ascension chart, instead of using the zodiac/ecliptic, one uses the celestial equator. This is why on a right ascension chart, you will not see any zodiacal signs, just 12 sections which represent 12 divisions of the celestial equator. Along this circle, the planets are placed according to their right ascension.

To get a listing of right ascensions and declinations in Clairvision Virtual Astrologer, click on 'View', 'Listing', then 'Detailed'. You will notice that right ascensions are not expressed in degrees, but in hour angles.
Right ascension charts – what they mean

How does the meaning of a right ascension chart differ from a normal chart?

To answer this question, some say that the celestial equator is a more 'earthy' reference than the ecliptic. This makes sense, for the celestial equator is the projection of the earth's equator on the celestial sphere, while the ecliptic is the path of the Sun.

Consequently, they regard the right ascension chart as an indication of how a person manifests the potentialities of their 'normal' (longitude-based) chart into their life. From this perspective, the 'normal' chart shows potentialities; the right ascension chart shows how these potentialities are likely to manifest in real life. Hence the motto: right ascension chart – manifestation chart.

For instance, if an aspect or a cluster of planets is really critical in a person's chart, you may want to look at their right ascension chart to see if the aspect is also present, and if it is any different.

In astrological readings, it is not rare to see people who are not like their chart! For instance, one sees charts with beautiful potentialities which are not translated into the reality of the person's life. The right ascension chart may give clues as to why and how, and also clues as to how to manifest what is in the chart.

From these indications, you may also deduct that the right ascension charts of solar returns may be quite interesting, since when doing predictions you are precisely trying to determine how influences will manifest in real life.

To draw a right ascension chart in Clairvision Virtual Astrologer, click on 'View', 'Drawing', choose either 'PNG' or 'AVG', then 'Configure', and 'Right Ascension Chart'.
http://astrology.clairvision.org/static/astrologymanual/Right_ascension_and_declin ation.html

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posted August 31, 2010 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked Sedna in my next Solar Return

Sedna in 22'11 Taurus R
oppose Midheaven in 24'49 Scorpio


In Right Ascension:
Sedna in 22'52 Taurus R
oppose Midheaven in 22'28 Scorpio in Right Ascension


I already have Sedna in 7th square Midheaven with 7 minutes of arc in my current Solar Return

I also have Solar Arc Sedna conjunct natal Midheaven with 1 minute of arc separating.


I believe that the Sedna aspects having to do with coming to terms with my path as lightworker. There and and will be events that will bring me closer to my path this year and the next year.

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posted August 31, 2010 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here is a Sedna Meditation by Janis Page who is an Uranian Astrologer.


This might be helpful for people who are strong in Sedna energy and/or going through Sedna transits,secondary progressions,solar arcs,solar return,lunar return

"Sedna

The energy is slow beyond belief ... cold, beyond time and space as we experience them.

For decades, Sedna has been conjunct the uranian transneptunian (TNP) Admetos, and as there is much overlap in energy and meaning, it is not so easy to separate them. (note – Sedna's year is about 11,000 years, while Admetos' year is about 630 years, so they are not the same. Sedna is so incredibly far out from the Sun that the discovery and inclusion more than doubled the size of our solar system!).

Sedna does not operate on a personal level, tho it is likely when closely contacting a personal planet, it takes you to a deeper place with it, more to the universal authenticity of expression of a planet. For those who function solely on a personal ego level, this isn't pretty! (like Pluto in this).

Go Deep! Sedna's sacrifice created sustenance for the people.

There was a glimpse of at least another one planetary being further out beyond Sedna.

Sedna is deeply shamanic and otherworldly, not of this mundane world.

I asked my spiritual Mentors and guides to assist, and invited Sedna to come – she's lovely! Sylph-like, slender, long straight black hair flowing almost to her knees – also long fingers (not severed, as in the myth). She has exceedingly intense deep, dark eyes and gaze, smokey, fiery, electric, powerfully penetrating. Dark energy, dark caramel complexion. But aii! those eyes! She's very fluid in her movements. Sedna is very wrathful in her energy, very much 'cut the crap.'

Sedna can bring to the surface old unresolved issues and blockages from ancient times (past lives) to more recent experience, for ripening of the karmic seeds for purging and purifying of the issues.

There is a deeper aspect to my work I will start to increasingly come into ... I am to work with this energy (strongly placed in my chart). I know what it is to drown, to be abandoned and betrayed, to release and forgive, and I've been going thru her 'watery furnace' of purification for years. There is very little left of 'me' (my note – not so sure I agree with that!!).

Reminded of the image in a book of Tibetan Buddhist teachings, the image of not following a spiritual path when there is the capacity and opportunity to do so in a lifetime being like a small child playing with toys in a room in a house that is burning to the ground.

This energy is so deep, and yet 'high' – like subtoning with high overtones? – that few can connect or touch it, or are ready for the level of (ego) surrender, release, and 'sacrifice' called for to approach her 'altar.' She will remain a 'dumb note' for most for some time, yet assist as possible as we collectively move thru the purging and purification we as a planetary collective are entering.

No, it is no 'accident' that for those of us who can take first steps to engage with this archetypal planetary being that we find our Sedna conjunct Admetos. Sedna is the next harmonic, just as Admetos is to Saturn – ("as you have aptly said, Admetos makes Saturn look 'perky'!").

She did a slow, flowing, spiral dance (reminded me of some of the Tibetan ritual dance) clockwise for a while, then with a low, slow scooping movement, turned counterclockwise for a moment – retrograde (Rx)! Direct motion creates, moves new ground, while retrograde motion releases and discharges the energy to balance for the next movement forward in the spiral.

My deep alliance with whales and dolphins help me to connect to her – the deeper, the higher, and their deep connection with the cosmos. I played my koauau iwi toroa (Maori albatross bone flute) for her and gave her pearls.

Sedna is one of the sentries for this solar system. She 'colors' and 'shapes' what comes thru the stargates. She has her 'work' and it really is not appropriate to 'bother' her with that which is trite and small, or outside her domain. She will work with us as needed and possible, in her own time and way.

I heard 'Lullaby for Nabroth' (one of my piano compositions). The Inuit, and the explosive wild ferociousness of Iceland and Greenland helped to prepare me for this meeting, the energy adjustment and infusion I got from them while flying over those countries. Note Bjork - check her chart as she embodies a good human interpretation of this energy. Listen again to the Inuit throat singing the women do. Note the fire in their breath ~ do it myself and see what this fire breath does for my focus, awareness and energy! (I did so....)

Aurora Borealis – remember that the North Pole is our most accessible gateway to beyond Earth. Sedna is another facet of the gem that is the Black Madonna archetype in a far more primordial and wrathful expression, closer to Ekajati. She is a dakini.

There is an enormous influx of energy and assistance coming into this (Earth) planetary being now. Be still to perceive and ride the wave of it, the light that can only be seen thru the darkness, the sound that can only be heard in total silence. (heard the soft low piano notes at the end of 'Path of Stillness') When possible, do another yangti dark retreat (3 days).

Not only be still enough, but also actively work to release old limitations, conditioning, habituation. Open your energy ('outer rushen'). This purging energy can help to break up (dissolve? shatter?) cellular memory and patterning that no longer serves, except to limit. (neuropeptides?) Mostly note to allow time and energy for both deep stillness and presence, and for action, movement and sounding. Both are needed in turn.

Closer to the equator there is much earthly distraction of senses and engagement – more extraverted, outward direction of focus, as opposed to the contemplative, less populated far north (and near the south pole, tho it's different there). Also those high places like the Tibetan plateau, where the raw, wild energy also is present.

Sedna then appeared holding a peacefully sleeping baby wearing a fur-lined hood in the deep cold. Quiet scene ... the background was a deep, vibrant cobalt blue. Something new is coming into being. Allow it ... slowly, silently. I sat quietly with the energy for a long time ... "
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posted March 27, 2012 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would sedna in taurus, opposite scorpio moon (one degree) signify

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posted March 27, 2012 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 27, 2012 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sedna is betrayal . Dejanira is bullying.It is asteroid 157. Check that Sweetie!

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posted March 27, 2012 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
relocating to the Asteroid Forum

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Sedna conjunct Sun within 3 degree orb, Dejanira conjunct AC within 7 minutes, Karma conjunct Mars within 1 minute. Plus Sun Sextile Mars.

Anyone want to interpret? Frankly I forgot about being bullied pretty quickly, being betrayed by those you trust is what really hurts but I understand everything happens for a reason. Interesting post!

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