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Topic: Hebe in aspect to Aphrodite/Venus = youthful beauty?
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Astrogirly4 Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Destiny Islands <3 Registered: Nov 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 01:19 PM
I'm researching different aspects of noticably beautiful women, and one thing I've noticed is the relationship between Hebe and Aphrodite. I have just found out about Hebe today, and that she is the goddess of youth. Here are a few women with Hebe-Aphrodite relationships:Audrey Hepburn = Hebe Inconjunct Aphrodite Marilyn Monroe = Hebe Sesquiquadrate Aphrodite Jessica Alba = Hebe Opposite Aphrodite Cheryl Cole = Hebe trine Venus Aaliyah = Hebe Sesquiquadrate Aphrodite There are also a few women with Eros/Hebe aspects: Elizabeth Taylor: Eros square Hebe Brigitte Bardot: Eros square Hebe Monica Bellucci: Eros sextile Hebe IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Moderator Posts: 4349 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 30, 2012 01:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astrogirly4: I'm researching different aspects of noticably beautiful women, and one thing I've noticed is the relationship between Hebe and Aphrodite. I have just found out about Hebe today, and that she is the goddess of youth. Here are a few women with Hebe-Aphrodite relationships:Audrey Hepburn = Hebe Inconjunct Aphrodite Marilyn Monroe = Hebe Sesquiquadrate Aphrodite Jessica Alba = Hebe Opposite Aphrodite Cheryl Cole = Hebe trine Venus Aaliyah = Hebe Sesquiquadrate Aphrodite There are also a few women with Eros/Hebe aspects: Elizabeth Taylor: Eros square Hebe Brigitte Bardot: Eros square Hebe Monica Bellucci: Eros sextile Hebe
Hebe is #6 for anyone who wants to check theirs. Hebe, the goddess of youth, was also a goddess of forgiveness. The slaves who were freed would hang their chains on her statue.
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Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4113 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 01:46 PM
Hebe squares my Aphrodite (wide 3degs) Hebe semisquares Eros Aphrodite sextiles Venus (1) and squares Moon (0)i don't think I measure up to the celebrities listed at all XD but interesting thread. another, Lady gaga has Hebe semi-square Aphrodite IP: Logged |
Astrogirly4 Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Destiny Islands <3 Registered: Nov 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 01:58 PM
Haha I have Hebe square Aphrodite, but I'm not even close to looking like any of the celebrities I listed :3 Maria Callas has Eros opposite Hebes as well. Maybe Hebes-Aphrodite/Eros aspects mean somewhat exotic beauty? Lady Gaga does have a youthful, but exotic kind of beauty IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4113 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 02:03 PM
I agree :] Lady gaga's features are very striking and exotic-looking.Well hey I bet if we had as much money as they did we'd be looking good too lol IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Moderator Posts: 4349 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 30, 2012 02:07 PM
This was interesting...Hesiod, Theogony 950 When patriarchal invaders overtook the Goddess culture, Hebe was displaced by Ganymede. According to the legend, one day Hebe slipped and fell while serving nectar, thus exposing Her naked body. The gods were in shock, and Her indecency made them question Her manners. It was then decided that Hebe was unfit to continue to perform Her duties. Ganymede (1036), the beautiful young man who charmed all the gods, became Her replacement. IP: Logged |
Astrogirly4 Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Destiny Islands <3 Registered: Nov 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 02:15 PM
Moonfish: That's so true! lol Ariesdragon: That is very interesting! I would love to see how Hebe and Ganymede play out in synastryIP: Logged |
ariesdragon Moderator Posts: 4349 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 30, 2012 02:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astrogirly4: Moonfish: That's so true! lol Ariesdragon: That is very interesting! I would love to see how Hebe and Ganymede play out in synastry
Not very good since he took her place, what do you think? But maybe since they have the same meaning then maybe it could work. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5291 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 02:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by ariesdragon: This was interesting...Hesiod, Theogony 950 When patriarchal invaders overtook the Goddess culture, Hebe was displaced by Ganymede. According to the legend, one day Hebe slipped and fell while serving nectar, thus exposing Her naked body. The gods were in shock, and Her indecency made them question Her manners. It was then decided that Hebe was unfit to continue to perform Her duties. Ganymede (1036), the beautiful young man who charmed all the gods, became Her replacement.
@at the indignation of the Gods about her "indecency". Cause we know the Greek-Roman pantheon was so DECENT.
Talk about double standard. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5291 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 02:24 PM
My HEBE is on 2 scorpio conjunct Uranus by one degree, right on the 11th house cusp (no wonder i had to comment on the "double-standard-issue ).My GANYMED is on 11 Libra imn 10th house right between my Pluto and my Aphrodite, conjunct each with about 1-2 degrees. EDIT: I once was having a crush on a gay man. And this man`s partner had his GANYMED conjunct my HEBE(1) and my GANYMED-APHRODITE-PLUTO was conjunct his HEBE and Mars (the Pluto-Mars conjunction being exact).
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Astrogirly4 Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Destiny Islands <3 Registered: Nov 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 02:28 PM
I made a synastry chart with Marilyn Monroe and Elizabeth Taylor (love them both) after reading a piece of an article:"But even Elizabeth had to live in the shadow of Marilyn, whose memory never faded from view. She was infuriated by an article in which Max Lerner stated, "Elizabeth Taylor was a legend, but Marilyn Monroe was a myth." Elizabeth retorted, "You have a nerve saying that Marilyn was a myth and I'm just a lousy legend. I'm much more beautiful than Marilyn Monroe ever was, and I'm certainly a better actress. What the hell do I have to do to be a myth? Die young and by my own hand?"" In their synastry chart, Elizabeth's Hebes sextiles Marilyn's Ganymed and Inconjuncts Marilyn's Hebes.
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Astrogirly4 Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Destiny Islands <3 Registered: Nov 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 02:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: My HEBE is on 2 scorpio conjunct Uranus by one degree, right on the 11th house cusp (no wonder i had to comment on the "double-standard-issue ).My GANYMED is on 11 Libra imn 10th house right between my Pluto and my Aphrodite, conjunct each with about 1-2 degrees. EDIT: I once was having a crush on a gay man. And this man`s partner had his GANYMED conjunct my HEBE(1) and my GANYMED-APHRODITE-PLUTO was conjunct his HEBE and Mars (the Pluto-Mars conjunction being exact).
lol
That sounds like some powerful conjunctions Maybe he felt like you we're replacing him in someway, and with the pluto-mars in there, I would suggest that he had intense feelings of replacement? But very interesting nonetheless IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5291 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 02:41 PM
I don´t know about this, but found it always interesting that HIS name and MY name were exactly conjunct in my crush`s natal chart, (and conjunct Chiron and oppospite Pluto along the ASC-DESC-axis). It was at least very interesting.EDIT: Actually the synastry with that guy (not my crush, the other one) is a very intense one. On the top of the Mars-Pluto-conjunction, there is also his EROS conjunct my Venus exactly, and his Venus conjunct my Venus a bit more widely, and since he has a natal Venus-Mars-square and I have a natal Venus-Pluto square it means that his Mars squares my Venus, and my Pluto squares his Venus and Eros. On top of that his URanus squares my Sun exact and my Uranus opposes his Moon. Actually nowadays i avoid him, as the energy generated (only my subjective perception) is too much to handle for me. IN a normal synastry it probably would find a sexual outlet, but since that is of course out of the question, I may experience it as this bubbling burst of nervous and intense energy, that affects me even physically. The first time I met him, I felt like I had to walk out of the room, cause I felt like I had been hit by an electrical surge.
For him it probably is felt as annoyance. Of course he doesn´t know I ever had a crush on his ex-partner (not even his ex-partner knowns). And it was long before I was in the same room with "Mr Electric". It is just a very weird energy. Of course then I have had the most vivid and traumatic past life recall relating to him. lol IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Moderator Posts: 4349 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 30, 2012 02:44 PM
Ok so Hebe was very upset and crying at first but was happy within a few minutes of finding out ganymede was taking her place because Zeus told her that she would be the bride of Hercules... She turned to Ganymede and kindly patted the top of his head: an oddly motherly gesture for such a youthful person to make use of. "Ganymede," she said, "you are now my friend and cupbearer; I shall not be your assistant as your job is an easy if honorable duty. It will actually be nice to be waited on for once. Come, I'll explain your cupbearing duties." No hard feelings there lol IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5291 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 02:52 PM
Maybe she was glad getting rid of that job so easily. Hey maybe, just maybe, she was "indecent" on purpose? IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Moderator Posts: 4349 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 30, 2012 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Maybe she was glad getting rid of that job so easily. Hey maybe, just maybe, she was "indecent" on purpose?
lol yes Ceri the story about zeus and ganymede is a bit confusing but that can be on a different thread. I am glad Hebe got Hercules and she was happy anyway IP: Logged |
Astrogirly4 Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Destiny Islands <3 Registered: Nov 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 03:28 PM
Haha thats a possibility So I guess everything was good in the end! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5291 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 03:53 PM
BTW did she get Hercules after DEjanira? After he had gone up into the Olymp?IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1942 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 30, 2012 05:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: I agree :] Lady gaga's features are very striking and exotic-looking.Well hey I bet if we had as much money as they did we'd be looking good too lol
But Lady Gaga doesn't have "youthful" beauty. IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4113 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 05:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by amowls**: But Lady Gaga doesn't have "youthful" beauty.
I never said she did, but she does have the aspect nevertheless. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto Knowflake Posts: 1683 From: pluto Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 30, 2012 11:44 PM
Hmmmm... i hv Hebe square sun but its a bit wide at 4 degrees.hmmmm... i hv hebe trine eros-jupiter conjunction less than 2 degree. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Moderator Posts: 4349 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 31, 2012 12:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: BTW did she get Hercules after DEjanira? After he had gone up into the Olymp?
Heracles married four times. After his mortal parts had been incinerated, he could become a full god and join his father and the other Olympians on Mount Olympus. He then married Hebe, his fourth and last wife. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracles
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ariesdragon Moderator Posts: 4349 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 31, 2012 12:16 AM
Hercules should be done in composites and synastry with Hebe. IP: Logged |
Lexyr14 Knowflake Posts: 177 From: Tucson,AZ,USA Registered: May 2012
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posted June 20, 2012 04:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astrogirly4: I'm researching different aspects of noticably beautiful women, and one thing I've noticed is the relationship between Hebe and Aphrodite. I have just found out about Hebe today, and that she is the goddess of youth. Here are a few women with Hebe-Aphrodite relationships:Audrey Hepburn = Hebe Inconjunct Aphrodite Marilyn Monroe = Hebe Sesquiquadrate Aphrodite Jessica Alba = Hebe Opposite Aphrodite Cheryl Cole = Hebe trine Venus Aaliyah = Hebe Sesquiquadrate Aphrodite There are also a few women with Eros/Hebe aspects: Elizabeth Taylor: Eros square Hebe Brigitte Bardot: Eros square Hebe Monica Bellucci: Eros sextile Hebe
My Hebe is exactly opposite my Venus in Cancer... Any thoughts? IP: Logged |
Anchi Knowflake Posts: 643 From: Planet Vulcan Registered: May 2012
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posted June 20, 2012 10:53 AM
thank you for bumping this Lexyr i have Hebe (Virgo) conjunct ASC - 0.22 (i definitely look way younger than my actual age lol) i also have Hebe opposition Venus (1.47) and Hebe opposition Aphrodite (4.07) and Venus conjunct Aphrodite (both in Pisces) - 2.20 (near DC) i don't think i'm a beauty like the women mentioned though lol =) IP: Logged |