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BlackSeraph
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posted March 31, 2012 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1866 Sisyphus is names after a king in Greek legend who was quite cunning, and managed to blackmail the gods into granting a spring in the Corinthian Acropolis. He was also said to have killed guests (a major no-no in Zeus's eyes), and ultimately was to be sent to the underworld.

When Thanatos (or Hades in some accounts) came for him, he brought with him chains and handcuffs. Sisyphus asked how they worked, and if he could try them out. Managing to chain Death, he made his way to the upperworld again.

Long story short, the gods finally have had enough, and Hermes drags Sisyphus into the underworld, where he is sentenced to push a boulder up a hill for all eternity, getting nearly to the top only to have it slip and fall away as he is about to finish his task. The phrase "Sisyphean" is even used to represent a fruitless and frustrating labor.

My Sisyphus is at 22 Leo 1'54", conjunct Mercury at 21 Leo 50'12" (Rx). In my life, I find that it's hard for me to communicate in person many a time, with other people cutting me off as I'm trying to talk. And when I do manage to get a word in edgewise, sometimes to give advice or give my input on a matter, people tend to ignore what I say and do otherwise. While I can get a sense of satisfaction when it blows up in their face, it's also an endless source of frustration for me. My travel and commute woes are also a major source of frustration in my life. Finally, while I work in IT (software development mainly), computers and technology are a serious source of frustration for me(!!!) ... we won't even get into the Mercury Retrograde cycles when those transits occur.

In addition to the Mercury conjunction, I also have Sisyphus:

Square 1282 Utopia at 22 Tau 52'35"
Sextile 2926 Caldeira at 22 Gem 17'56"
Sextile 6805 Abstracta at 22 Gem 57'53"
Semisextile 10370 Hylonome at 22 Can 10'19"
Semisextile 242763 Eliewiesel at 21 Vir 41'47"
Semisextile 8589 Stellaris at 22 Vir 33'58"
Semisextile 5841 Stone at 22 Vir 46'47"
Sextile 241 Germania at 22 Lib 7'48"
Sextile 1154 Astronomia at 22 Lib 22'41"
Sextile 3362 Khufu at 22 Lib 25'4"
Square 103 Hera at 22 Sco 20'29"
Square 2155 Wodan at 22 Sco 31'56"
Trine 4257 Ubasti at 22 Sag 22'36"
Quincunx 1930 Lucifer at 22 Cap 22'14" (Rx)
Quincunx 51828 Ilanramon at 22 Pis 1'17" (Rx)
Quincunx Pholus at 22 Pis 19'51" (Rx)
Quincunx 2008 Konstitutsia at 22 Pis 34'5" (Rx)

With those placements, I find the most frustrating subjects to try to talk to people about sometimes is how things in society/American government are going, the trends toward the police state (people more concerned about other matters), metaphysical matters (either not interested or don't believe in what I'm talking about), astronomy (usually a "that's interesting..." response and go on to another subject) and natural disasters ("yeah..." and subject change). Perhaps I'm just talking to the wrong people a lot of the time with those subjects.

Where does Sisyphus fall in your chart? Where does an immense source of frustration lie in your life?

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ariesdragon
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posted March 31, 2012 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool I'm gonna check this tomorrow too
Thank you Black Seraph

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ariesdragon
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posted March 31, 2012 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sisyphus is in the 3rd and trines venus, neptune and pluto.
It squares jupiter & NN.
No conjunctions though.

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lilithpluto
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posted March 31, 2012 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DAMN!!!!

I have Sisyphus @ Gemini 23 conjunct Venus @ Gemini 23 conjunct Hera @ Gemini 23, trine Moon @ Aquarius 23 square Saturn @ Virgo 23.

Oh well, I kinda guessed so before I verify it. Sigh.

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Ceridwen
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posted March 31, 2012 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting SISYPHOS is on 8 Sag in my case

conjunct my ASC on 7 Sag
conjunct my Neptune on 9 Sag
conjunct my NN on 10 Sag
conjunct my Atlantis on 8 Sag
conjunct my Angel and Lust on 7 Sag

sextile my Pluto on 9 Libra

sextile my Pallas on 9 Aquarius

I`m not sure though how this relates to frustrations for me.

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Moon is Lunatic
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posted February 28, 2014 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On my NN & Mercury......

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olgatheo
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posted March 01, 2014 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its at 28 degrees Libra trine exact to Jupiter.

Ironic its trine to Jupiter since in mythology he ****** off Zeus !


The sabian symbol is interesting -
Mankind's Vast And Enduring Effort To Reach For Knowledge Transferable From Generation To Generation.

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Hydra
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posted March 01, 2014 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hydra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sisyphus in sco square jupiter and sextile sun

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Gabby
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posted March 02, 2014 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is 3 degrees from Juno, it squares my Neptune by 2 degrees....I'm not a big fan of that placement!

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SaturnineMoth
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posted March 05, 2014 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BlackSeraph, you have me pushing ye'ol' boulder up that mountain again!!!

Lemme explain, I'd lurked over the forums when you'd just posted this topic, and initially I was only intending to look at what he (and the other bodies in that degree) contact just to have it recorded in my mess of astrology files... I wasn't even aiming at responding here! (Blame Pluto, ever since he came into my 5th house I've turned into a complete hermit; though I am extremely busy and increasingly more creative with my energies... I haven't had much of ANY urge to share or socialize at all.) ^^; It's not me... I swear... it's the transits! lol

Still, I plotted out the chart, in full, and it was very (very) exhausting... (I think you'd understand best, as one of the few I've known here who keeps a large database of bodies and research already input unto their chart, how very laborious the asteroid obsession is once you've exceeded the usual dozen or two asteroids people dabble with for a much more robust list with well over a thousand bodies and points).

Of course, it's much more difficult to share interpretations, especially here, since I absolutely abhor biased, short-hand, under or un-researched, flimsy, and generic explanations.

So, I'll spare myself and you of that grief! ^^ (see... totally selfish with Pluto creeping all up upon my Sun like this!)

I did run into a very common theme, where Sisyphus touches into the house of Atreidae, (a trait I share with several relatives, having the house of Atreus triggered and prominent in our charts going back at least 4 generations). I also found he is within orb of 2 of my ancestral surnames (not just 1, but 3). He's sadly in square with my 4th house stellium (roots/heritage, family, rest/sanctuary)... Which brings me back here...

Sisyphus is in my 1st house, right at the end, retrograde (the last retrograde body within my 1st house actually). Sisyphus and all his neighbors are in effect, square with my DNA, my IC, MC-ASC, DSC rulers.... this... this is what is important here...

So, what boulder have I begun to move again?

Genealogy, my friend! Something I'd all but given up hope of every completing years ago, (after my grandfather passed away for certain). In the last 4-5 days I've covered more "ground" and achieved greater "distance" than the 15+ odd years where I'd tried before. Every time, I get so far... then, always, it's back to square one... it got to be unbearably frustrating, my family though they'd tried to assist where they could - essentially became more of a hindrance than a help.... and, ultimately I felt I should abandon the whole task, that it was worthless to keep going in circles, wasting all that sweat, all that effort... (Sisyphus...)

It was and is still, a labour of love... and yes, a useless one... a pitiful ambition...

The only reward essentially comes from the wisdom of the journey, and the journey itself.

Now I can trace several branches of my family back to the 1870's and the furthest I've gotten, 1820. It really is a load of fun, now that I can appreciate every morsel of information I find, and sometimes, that's really all I find... crumbs.

I have had to reroll that rock from the beginning again and again though... there is no ultimate finish line here, of course - I've understood that since day one. Eventually, I will run out of documents, the trail will go cold, and I will have to accept what I have accomplished, I will have to be content with what I have.

Something Sisyphus never understood himself...

being appreciative of what you have here and now.

I think, having this body, in critical deg of my 1st house - and set beside karma - obstructing or obstructed by everything that ought to make me, me... it really speaks for the task I need to complete, not because of any other reason, there's no real external need for it... but for me, "know thyself", and contentment will surely follow.

As always, sorry for the lack of brevity -

(oddly enough the family surname derived from my Hellenic heritage translates to "brief and concise with words". Yeah, no... not my family! haha)

Thank you, BlackSeraph - for reigniting this spiritual quest for my families identity for me.

*back to my #4758!*

(ok, not really! that squares my Moon.) XD hah

tc!

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Delilah423
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posted March 05, 2014 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is in Libra in the 10th house, which makes some sense given the nature of my career. Not sure what to make of it somewhat widely square Uranus (slightly over 2 degrees) and quintile (0.02 degrees) my Vertex. My fate is that I have a gift for pushing boulders endlessly uphill???

Now that I think about it, maybe there's some truth in that.

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