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Topic: Asteroid Kassandra #114
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ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4518 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 10, 2012 02:29 PM
"And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing." Corinthians 13:2 http://youtu.be/pD8mxge6kek Cassandra stood on the walls of Troy and watched Paris' ship enter the harbor. Her brother had returned from Sparta having seduced Helen away from her homeland to bring her to live in Troy as his wife. With the blessings of Aphrodite Paris and his lover Helen had snuck away from her palace undetected and sailed across the Aegean to Asia Minor. A dark cloud shrouded the ship as it anchored. When Cassandra watched her brother and Helen disembark and approach the city gates she was flooded with images of Troy's destruction, filling her with an ominous and terrible feeling. Possessed by this eerie perception she uttered a warning to the crowd that was gathered at the gates to welcome the couple. From deep inside she divined the future: Helen's entrance into the city would lead to its destruction. Ignoring Cassandra and her prophecy the crowds turned away to welcome the new royal couple into their city. Time and time again her message was rejected and ridiculed. Ten years later a similar scenario would unfold. Cassandra would warn the Trojans not to accept the wooden horse into their city. Once again no one would heed her accurate predictions. The Greeks, angry at Helen's abduction, sacked Troy and left the city in ashes. Cassandra was one of the daughters of the royal family of Troy, a sister to both Paris and Hector and twinned to her brother, Helenus. When the twins were infants they accompanied their parents to the temple of Apollo to celebrate a festival in honor of the oracular god. During the ritual the twins fell into a deep sleep. Two temple snakes slithered into their basket as they slept and bit them on their ears injecting the gift (or poison) of prophecy into them. From that day both Cassandra and Helenus were known for their prophetic nature. Having the gift of sight Cassandra entered the temple to serve Apollo being called to her vocation as his Pythia, the voice of the oracular god. However, Apollo fell in love with her and demanded she reciprocate his desire. But Cassandra refused to consummate the relationship preferring to worship the god in spirit, not body. Enraged Apollo found a way to avenge her rejection. Knowing he could not retract the gift of prophecy that he had given her when she was so young he cursed her so no one would ever believe her prophecies. The god begged her for one kiss and Cassandra consented. As she opened her mouth to kiss the god Apollo breathed his curse into her insuring others would no longer value her prophetic vision. He turned his back on her, condemning Cassandra to see the perilous future yet never able to be understood or believed. Cassandra, cursed by the narcissistic god for rejecting him, was later violently assaulted by Ajax upon the altar of Athena when the Greeks were ransacking Troy. After the sack of Troy the leader of the Greek fleet Agamemnon took her as his slave back to his palace of Mycenae. As she approached the mammoth walled city her images of destruction became more and more intense. Racked by the violent visions she screamed a warning for Agamemnon to not enter the palace foreseeing his brutal murder at the hands of his wife. In her heart she also knew that entering the city with him would result in her own death. Cassandra personifies the medial woman whose intuitive faculties and understanding of the unconscious patterns are not welcomed in an ordered rational society. She sees what others are too fearful to see and exposes the inevitable patterns that underpin the situation. In an atmosphere of control and denial Cassandra is marginalized and demeaned becoming the projective reflection of the fear of chaos and uncertainty. Disbelief and ignorance render her wisdom impotent. When dark feelings, dread or grief are repressed in the atmosphere Cassandra is the medium of their expression. Her curse is that she is not identified with her feelings leaving her misunderstood and marginalized. Her feelings, identified by others as autonomous ravings, isolate her. Cassandra is able to sense what is taboo and unlived but unable to remain separate from it. Cassandra represents the archetype of medial knowledge. Unlike the ancient world there are no longer sanctuaries or sacred places to honor her way of knowing. She reflects the need to be aware of our medial skills and intuitive knowledge and seek training to help strengthen the ability to use this skill and not be overwhelmed by it. When Cassandra appears prominently she encourages the individual to find a voice for the medium through understanding the symbols, images, signs and omens of unconscious language. She embodies the ancient ways of knowing in a culture that no longer values prophecy and divination. Her knowledge is not objective but oracular. To embrace Cassandra we must abandon logic, separateness and rationality and enter into the irrational world where meaning is revealed through feeling and connectedness. However, Cassandra reminds us that in a scientific and ordered society our knowing may be rejected. Cassandra encourages us to have the strength of our convictions and a strong and healthy identity about our beliefs. Oracular knowing springs out of the collective through an unconscious and unbound participation with everything in the environment. When boundaries are blurred and the veil between the worlds is lifted we enter into a participation mystique with the spirits of the world beyond us and may be called to act as a vessel for their message. Cassandra in your horoscope reveals where you are sensitive to the pattern of the goddess. Cassandra is in Capricorn Former US President Abraham Lincoln once asked: 'Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" This is the wisdom of a stable and powerful leader. You have the ability to follow in this man's footsteps if you don't get too caught up in vying with your peers for authority. From a young age, you understand the need for hierarchies in society, but you may try to talk your way to the top of ladder before the time is right. Your urge for supremacy needs to make way for equality. If you can maintain an egalitarian attitude then you are able to be a wise leader in your field and in your immediate circle of friends and family. You may enter politics or business, but it is likely that becoming a leader in the arts or metaphysics also attracts you. As a youngster other people may have misunderstood your mannerisms and ways of thinking. Hence you may withdraw into a world of your own or learn to disguise your true thoughts. As you mature, you learn to choose your words wisely and develop a strong sense of right and wrong. You understand the nature of cause and effect. In other words you understand that actions have consequences. You develop strength of character. Another, more contemporary politician J C Watts said: 'Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught.' The goddess Cassandra in the sign of Capricorn in a woman's chart can indicate that you prefer to rely on your own powers of discernment rejecting patriarchy. Depending on other aspects of your birth chart you may be a real rebel against authority, speaking out for women's rights through the arts or politics. On the other hand you may be a conservative and yet powerful leader. Whichever way this destiny leans your voice is a public cry for respect and equality. Women like Oprah Winfrey or Amelia Earhart who have this placement have used the voice of the goddess in their unique way. In a man's chart this placement of the goddess Cassandra can indicate that you form a strong bond with a powerful woman, one who enables you to achieve a prominent position in society as long as you respect her wise counsel. The voice of the collective feminine reverberates through your professional life. http://www.cafeastrology.com/samplegoddessreport.pdf [URL=http://tribes.tribe.net/asteroid_astrology/thread/0ff72797-a2c5-4ab5-b08d-2bdb4fd95abe]http://tribes.tribe.net/asteroid_astrology/thread/0ff72797-a2c5-4ab5-b08d-2bdb4fd95abe[/ URL] Any thoughts or experiences you guys wanna share feel free It must be frustrating to not be believed. Apollo does not take rejections very well it seems that he would curse her so that nobody believes her prophecies. IP: Logged |
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posted April 11, 2012 03:53 AM
I have KASSANDRA on 20.20 Libra precisely conjunct DNA on 20.20 Libra as well, opposing Chiron and PHOINIX on 20 Aries and squaring EROS/VERTEX/PAN on 21 Cancer and also squaring Sun/Moon-mp and ARTHUR on 21 Capricorn.Interestingly APOLLO is not that far off KASSANDRA, as he is on 26 Libra exactly conjunct ADONIS and KASSANDRA being exactly trine SUMERIA and URANIA in Aquarius. IQ once said that most of my astrological knowledge stems from a past life line in Ancient Sumeria. Well, in the light of APOLLO conjunct Adonis and Kassandra trine Urania/Sumeria this definitely makes sense. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4518 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 11, 2012 11:37 AM
Well that explains it, wow Kassandra conjunct DNA That's a big one! To me anyway. I will check later what conjuncts my DNA. Thanks for sharing Ceri IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1896 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 11, 2012 02:51 PM
AD,I haven't checked my placement yet, but wanted to read the story-I love story telling and learning through the power of mythology. Thank you putting it down on paper. It's lovely and sad at the same time. And Apollo wasn't very nice, was he? It's interesting that these gods too had issues with their egos. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4518 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 11, 2012 03:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Linda Jones: AD,I haven't checked my placement yet, but wanted to read the story-I love story telling and learning through the power of mythology. Thank you putting it down on paper. It's lovely and sad at the same time. And Apollo wasn't very nice, was he? It's interesting that these gods too had issues with their egos.
Thank you Linda. I felt the same way. xo IP: Logged |
BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 504 From: WA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted April 11, 2012 10:41 PM
Kassandra's making some interesting aspects in my chart here...114 Kassandra at 26 Can 52'22" (8th house) is conjunct my Jupiter It also Sextiles: 1862 Apollo at 26 Vir 55'23" (I would have expected this to be a square knowing the mythology...) North Node at 27 Vir 1'16" 624 Hektor at 27 Vir 21'2" 588 Achilles at 27 Vir 53'27" (as I recall, Hektor killed Achilles didn't he?) Those are all in 10th house, along with: 1143 Odysseus at 0 Lib 8'29" 1404 Ajax at 3 Lib 32'5" (both those are out of orb of the others, but I did want to see where they were in relations to the Trojan War theme). Kassandra may be just in (or slightly out of orb) of Semisquare: 3317 Paris at 13 Gem 22'29" 617 Patroclus at 13 Gem 35'6" (both 7th house) And those last two make a roughly 105-degree link with the North Node cluster. Interesting setup I have with the Trojan War bunch. I should also add that Kassandra is opposite my natal Juno at 25 Cap 6'11" (Rx) and 1009 Sirene at 25 Cap 53'17" (Rx) in 2nd house. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5496 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 27, 2014 12:32 PM
I have Kassandra conj Chiron in h10/sag conj MC. It took me years to transcend the ego-hurt of people not wanting to see what I tried to point out. It sextiles my ascendant, quincunx uranus and square merc/pallas lol. Over time I learned that some people are receptive and some resistant. I also learned the power of creative projections...it's been interesting! Some people's egos are so upset by my uranian/mercurian/kassandran communication they become worse than resistant! All in a day's work!IP: Logged |
lifefullofwords Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 27, 2014 03:13 PM
I have Kassandra in Taurus in my 12th parallel Venus, my chart ruler (1 min orb). It's also sextile my Sun and trine my Mars. I've always found Cassandra's really resonated with me. Like her, I have a knack for anticipating catastrophic events. Of course nobody ever listens to me since I'm not anyone important. But even if were someone whose opinion mattered I still think people wouldn't listen, people never want to believe bad things are coming.IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5496 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 27, 2014 05:38 PM
Good point, life, though in Kassandra's day the Delphic oracle priestesses were generally believed. She was exceptional for that reason. I think in our charts in modern times it indicates where we have trouble getting people to believe us, and but also where we are prescient?IP: Logged |
lifefullofwords Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 27, 2014 07:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Catalina: Good point, life, though in Kassandra's day the Delphic oracle priestesses were generally believed. She was exceptional for that reason. I think in our charts in modern times it indicates where we have trouble getting people to believe us, and but also where we are prescient?
I really like your interpretation, that makes a lot of sense. It definitely fits with the Kassandra's story. The asteroid might also indicate that you will become a victim if people don't believe you since Kassandra was raped and enslaved by the Greeks when Troy was sacked. However, I could be wrong but I don't think Kassandra was an actual oracle of Delphi. She was given foresight by Apollo but when she refused to sleep with him he turned it into a curse by ensuring that no one would believe her. I also have Apollo conjunct my Sun actually... so maybe people will listen to me someday, because they definitely listened to the oracles of Delphi! IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5496 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 27, 2014 11:40 PM
Funny, yesterday I checked her out on google and came up with a different storywhich I can't find now. You appear to be right but I remember her as psychic from birth and her twin brother was too! Not that the basic story of her as the prophetess no one believed tho she was right on the money is changed. I guess this is detective week for me lolIP: Logged |
lifefullofwords Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 28, 2014 12:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Catalina: Funny, yesterday I checked her out on google and came up with a different storywhich I can't find now. You appear to be right but I remember her as psychic from birth and her twin brother was too! Not that the basic story of her as the prophetess no one believed tho she was right on the money is changed. I guess this is detective week for me lol
You're not wrong about her and her brother - they were blessed by Apollo as babies with prophetic foresight (at least in some versions). But later after Kassandra refused to sleep with him Apollo turned her gift into a curse by making it so no one would ever believe her. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5496 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 28, 2014 01:22 PM
Yes I remember the curse story...will have to check and see where I got the idea she was one of the Pythia (priestesses)IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 28, 2014 01:32 PM
Kassandra conjunct Eris in the 8th house, square Sun.------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
ndnchick26 Newflake Posts: 4 From: Colorado Springs, CO Registered: Mar 2017
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posted April 29, 2014 06:30 PM
I have Kassandra Conjunct AS 1° applying, Trine my Sun 2° applying and Square Uranus 0° applying. My Apollo Conjunt Sun 3°, Trine AS 4° (Too big of an orb?), Trine Jupiter -0°. So how does that all work together? Me running around like Chicken Little?
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posted April 29, 2014 07:52 PM
Kassandra 25 Aries 55'0" conjunct Dsc 26 Aries 10'21"Square Jupiter 25 Cancer 1'10" in the 9th house. IP: Logged |
MorpHnStorM Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted April 30, 2014 12:14 AM
After reading that description, I felt compelled to look (with the certainty that I'd find her somewhere significant in my chart), and sure enough, there she is conj. my SNode by about 30'...IP: Logged |
arcturus90 Knowflake Posts: 77 From: Arcturus Registered: Nov 2017
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posted December 03, 2017 08:44 AM
I've got Kassandra in EXACT conjunction to my Sun, and really I'm not taken seriously at all (maybe sometimes I am, though, but in general no)IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 1525 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 11, 2017 05:15 AM
Conjunct Venus by 2Read that with interest & can relate to the themes IP: Logged |