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seeker3030
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posted April 25, 2012 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well that's the last time I have a relationship with anyone who's Swindle or Lie conjunct anything of mine haha! It's funny... that's one of the first things I noticed about the synastry between me and my very recent ex apart from the Venus Pluto conjunction, and it always worried me. His Swindle sat almost exactly on my Sun (ouch!) and was conjunct his own Venus and Mercury... to say he's full of BS is putting it politely and mildly!!

The guy before him had Lie conjunct his own Moon and my Venus and he turned out to be leading a double life.

Has anyone had experiences of these kind of aspects? What did you find out and how did you feel? And were you the Swindle or Lie person? What was your experience of the aspect and if you have the aspect natally, do you find you deceive yourself in some way? Would be interested to find out.

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Belage
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posted April 29, 2012 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, and that was a rude awakening for me. I don't think I will ever check synastry and composite astrological aspects again without checking out for these asteroids.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 29, 2012 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seeker3030:
Well that's the last time I have a relationship with anyone who's Swindle or Lie conjunct anything of mine haha! It's funny... that's one of the first things I noticed about the synastry between me and my very recent ex apart from the Venus Pluto conjunction, and it always worried me. His Swindle sat almost exactly on my Sun (ouch!) and was conjunct his own Venus and Mercury... to say he's full of BS is putting it politely and mildly!!

The guy before him had Lie conjunct his own Moon and my Venus and he turned out to be leading a double life.

Has anyone had experiences of these kind of aspects? What did you find out and how did you feel? And were you the Swindle or Lie person? What was your experience of the aspect and if you have the aspect natally, do you find you deceive yourself in some way? Would be interested to find out.


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That is powerful! I never checked this much, although I do remember now that a raunchy guy I liked had Swindle conjunct something place prominent like Venus

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seeker3030
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posted May 02, 2012 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tough to take isn't it? Because whilst everything else can be brilliant about the relationship, there's that one tiny bad apple that lies in wait to rip the rug out from under you! I still don't know what to believe - I keep being told by my most recent ex that he loves me deeply and wants to be with me... but where's the action to back that up? Just makes me lose faith in all those 'pretty words...' which is a great shame because they made me hope. Ah well, you live and learn

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Sorcha
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posted May 05, 2012 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't really included them in my synastries either but I did have a look at my most recent relationship which ended last year. I don;t think I've ever felt more betrayed by a man.

We were born only 2 and a half months apart so obviously our asteroids are not too far off from each other. I have my own North Node conjunct natal Lie and he has his NN conjunct natal Swindle - therefore my NN conjuncts his Swindle and his NN conjuncts my Lie. His Lie conjuncts my Descendant.

My Swindle exactly conjuncts my own Vertex (!!!) What the heck does that mean?

I think I would rather understand the implications of the natal chart first in order to better understand how they impact my synastries. After all, if my NN conjuncts Lie, what does that say about my soul path/destiny? Sheesh.

Edited to add: Lie is exactly opposite my natal Moon. The funny thing is that my mother once said to me "well, I obviously didn't do a very good job teaching you to lie", which is true in the sense that I feel horrible about lying and one of the issues in my last relationship is the fact that I was too honest about some things I maybe should have kept to myself (in retrospect).

Hm.

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