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Linda Jones
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posted May 03, 2012 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could not find an interp. on the following-

1) My Mary exactly trines his Jessie.

2) My Mary is conjunt his SN while his Jessie is conjunct my NN (both within orb).

3) In the 13th harmonic chart my Maria and Yeshuhua are both conjunct his Atlantis (all within orb)

Does anyone know what these three mean?

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posted May 03, 2012 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the meaning of the asteroid Jessie?

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posted May 03, 2012 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe Jessie is Jesus, Mary and Maria are Mary (Mother of Christ), and Yeshuhua is Joseph, (Jesus's Dad).

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posted May 04, 2012 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jessie has been giving good results in several cases when I re-checked. I am not sure if Yeshuhua will represent the same theme as Joseph. There is a hypothesis of there being 3 possible reformers whose lives were integrated into one mythical Jesus Christ byt eh Nicene Conference.
One was a positive ET-Human Hybrid who was "created" to reform the Pharisees and Orthodox Jewry. He tricked the
Romans, and went to Kashmir.

Another was an Avatar with advanced Human DNA [without ET Hanky Panky]. He moved to South of France with Mary Magdalene.

The third was a freedom fighter who detested Roman Occupation.

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posted May 04, 2012 01:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeshuhua is of course a bit of a stretch, but the Hebrew of Jesus apparently was Yesh` ua, which is a short form for Yehosh`ua.

And actor, whose "big role" which he reprised several times, was Jesus in "Jesus Christ Superstar", has this pattern:

ASC: 26.1 Pisces
PoF: 27.5 Pisces
JESSIE: 28.4 Pisces
Antivertex: 28.4 Pisces

DESC: 26.1 Virgo
Saturn: 26.4 Virgo
Vertex: 28.4 Virgo
YESHUA: 25.4 Virgo


And his ASC-DESC-axis is on the antiscion-axis of:

MARY: 3.2 Aries
Karma: 3.1 Libra

(the exact antiscion of 3.2 Ariew would be 26.4 Pisces-Virgo)


The Sabians are:
ASC: The Harvest Moon Illumines A Clear Autumnal Sky

PoF: A Fertile Garden Under The Full Moon Reveals A Variety Of Full-Grown Vegetables

Jessie: Light Breaking Into Many Colors As It Passes Through A Prism
(Personally to me this Sabian represents the journey of souls into incarnation)


DESC, Saturn: A Group Of Aristocratic Ladies Meet Ceremonially At A Court's Function

Vertex: A Seeker After Occult Knowledge Is Reading An Ancient Scroll Which Illumines His Mind

Yeshua: A Boy With A Censer Serves The Priest Near The Altar


Mary: Two Lovers Strolling On A Secluded Walk

Karma: Around A Campfire A Group Of Young People Sit In Spiritual Communion


I found this lining up too interesting to brush it aside.


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posted May 04, 2012 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too interesting

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posted May 04, 2012 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, iQ for responding. I appreciate your input and find it fascinating about the 3 reformers. Now, if only I could absorb all your astrology related knowledge (yours and Ceridwen's and Taineberry's) by osmosis or something, I'd be supremely happy. Just kidding!

About what you said-

"There is a hypothesis of there being 3 possible reformers whose lives were integrated into one mythical Jesus Christ byt eh Nicene Conference.
One was a positive ET-Human Hybrid who was "created" to reform the Pharisees and Orthodox Jewry. He tricked the
Romans, and went to Kashmir. "

The one who went to Kashmir-could this one possibly have anything to do with the belief of there being some evidence of Jesus having been to Kashmir? I vaguely recall that a western film maker was planning to make a movie about this.

Thank you.

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posted May 04, 2012 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen,

About the actor from Jesus Christ Superstar-what you and iQ (your astrologically advanced brains) find "too interesting," I find mind blowing. I actually had to resist writing "mind blowing" in capitals!

I mean if there are no co-incidences in life and everything is by cosmic design, then this one's a jaw dropper

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posted May 05, 2012 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrightStar23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.rootlight.com/music_kabbalah_for_healing.htm


I have meditated using this before. Its very beautiful. Track 4 reminded me of asteroid yeshuhua- Just because of the way the syllables are sounded out. Its not exact but It is similar

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posted May 05, 2012 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Linda. I have never associated Jessie with Jesus. Interesting.

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posted May 06, 2012 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda - Jesus/Mary Magdalene may have been an important twinflame couple.

In the Gnostic gospels, it is written that MM and Jesus were in a sacred twinflame relationship. Could it be that they as a divinely connected couple were a living embodiment of the Hieros Gamos or Sacred Marriage whilst incarnate on earth? The Gnostic Tradition teaches that they were. Furthermore, there are no statements in the New Testament to say that Jesus was celibate.

At that time in Jewish History, all Jewish men were supposed to get married – it would have been highly unusual for a rabbi or a prophet to be unmarried. It would therefore have been quite easy for followers to have accepted Jesus as a spiritual leader if he was married – this would have in no way diminished his spiritual status. In fact it would have exalted him more.

Throughout his ministry Jesus interacted with women in a way that was atypical for his time. Most men considered women to be their property, but again and again we see Jesus treating them differently. He teaches a Samaritan woman at a well; he praises a poor widow who gives all she has to those in need; he delivers a woman from a sentence of death for adultery, he heals an unclean woman from a long illness; he raises a young girl from death. He welcomes mothers to him who bring their children to be blessed. We can see that he saw women as being of great importance, not as mere servants to men, and an inconvenience – in this way we can see he had a radically different view of women than other men at that time. From this we can perhaps deduce that part of his mission was to bring about a balance between the masculine and the feminine in the spirituality he taught.

In Corinthians, Jesus sends his disciples out to teach in pairs – normally thought to be 2 males, but perhaps not???? Perhaps they were male and female pairs. This is suggested in the following passage “Do we not have the right to be accompanied by a believing wife, as do other apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas?: (I Corinthians 9:5). If so, it is likely that the idea of having a balance between male and female was significant in the original Christian movement.

Getting back to Jesus and Mary – what is also interesting is some parallels between the Isis/Osiris myth as described on the Hieros Gamos thread. Let us assume that Jesus and Mary WERE twinflames .... Jesus is killed (like Osiris), Mary searches for him but can’t find him (like Isis) – his grave is open and he is gone. She continues her search and she is the first person to whom the risen Christ appears .... to his most dearly beloved. The number 13 is also important – Mary Magdalene was widely known to be the 13th disciple by the Gnostics.

In the Gospel of Philip (Gnostic) it is clearly revealed that Mary Magdalene was the wife and consort of Jesus and that he taught her more than any of his male disciples. In another Gnostic Gospel, the “Pistis Sophia” (faith-wisdom), Mary Magdalene is revealed to be his inmost disciple and serves in a capacity as a divine muse, inspiring and facilitating the outpouring of secret knowledge from the risen saviour.

From the Nag Hammadi library, the sacred Gnostic texts are even more explicit. In the Gnostic tradition, one of their sacred rites is that of the “wedding feast”. This is equvilalent to the Eucharist of bread and wine which in Gnostic terms also refers to the mystery of Hieros Gamos, the sacred marriage. Within the symbolism of the Eucharist is not so much the idea of redemption from sin, but more the idea of restoration to the original blessing , which occurs in the unification of male and female. As such, the bread represents the Logos and the wine represents the Sophia – the male and female aspects of the Christed Being. Thus the Eucharist is a ceremony celebrating their mystical union or sacred marriage – the union of the Divine Masculine and Feminine, through which all creation transpires, as well as redemption through divine illumination.

Going back even further, in Genesis – Adam – lliterally the first human being – was both male and female and was therefore in a state of Hieros Gamos. Only when the division between male and female occurred (Adam and Eve) occurred that the “fall” from grace occurs. From a Gnostic perspective , it is through the reunification of masculine and feminine that divine illumination occurs. The male and female are actualized, and in their union, the great power of Divine Being flows through them. This is not just on a spiritual level, it happens on a physical level too, as our bodies become a sacred expression of the union of our souls of Light.

So, from a Gnostic perspect the idea of Jesus being married is not strange or offensive. It is instead, an integral part of his divine heritage. In the sacred marriage of Jesus and MM, we have and image of Christed manhood and Christed womanhood – messianic consciousness embodied in male and female form that speaks to the enlightenment and liberationof all human beings. While some regard the Holy Grail as a cup in which Mary caught the blood and water flowing from the side of Jesus, others consider Mary herself to BE the Grail. As such she may be seen as the receptive (yin) vessel into which the active (yang) light of Jesus is poured. MM, as the custodian of the inner, outer and secret teachings as well as their corresponding initiations, is therefore from a Gnostic perspective the foundation of the True Church. She is the Grail overflowing with secret knowledge and wisdom that is taken to France, and from which the apostolic succession is fed. She is the embodiment of Christ the Sophia, just as Jesus was the embodiment of Christ the Logos. Through their union the full light of the Messiah flows.

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Linda - Jesus/Mary Magdalene may have been the ultimate twinflame couple.

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That`s why I mentioned them.
If someone had an influence on our culture (at least the Western), then it has been him and her.

I was thinking that there is not really a cult attached to them, like for Adonis and Inannen, well, until my inner voice whispered: "no cult??? What about a whole religion? D ´oh!"


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BTW it probably wouldn´t hurt to check Adam (1996) and Eve/Eva (164) as well.

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posted May 07, 2012 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Taineberry. You've explained this so beautifully that I got goose bumps reading it. This information further underscores the importance of the Mary/Jessie aspect in Ceridwen's research of the 10 Twin Flame synastries documented in the Heiros Gamos thread.

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posted May 07, 2012 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW it probably wouldn´t hurt to check Adam (1996) and Eve/Eva (164) as well.

I did. Have a trine in synastry there as well-his Adam to my Eve-1 deg 21 min.

And his Adam tridec his Atlantis-39 min

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posted June 28, 2023 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will explore these shortly.

I am surprised I missed the JC/Yeshua & Mary connection in my chart with Cairo/Mars. They are all together and near ic. I need to further seek why Magdalena is where she is. I'll tie everything together and update notes here.


Interesting, I've not before and do have French heritage - in my drac Magdalena is cnj my trop ac,

In persona my IC is cnj the natal giza. I definitely see markings between the JC, Mary line and Egyptian lines too.
My curiosity remains with Magdalena. If there's truth in Rennes, there's a connection to blue apples.

today! in tr Jessie is (0) exact cnj sn. Which my tutenchamen sits there too.
Magdalena is cnj my NN (0) too. Hmmmmm


- I find it ironic in heliocentric Yeshua is in Libra, Magdalena is Scorpio, like my composite drac/trop Isis/Osiris but swapped via the dm/df houses. These roles are liked as well so f9r them to play out together in not just instance, but TWO. Definitely curious.

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