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Lioness
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posted May 05, 2012 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know you guys are really super busy...

Im just wondering if anything specific stands out on this heliocentric synastry...

From my understanding heliocentric is the soul or the soul purpose??? Not sure what it is...

Anything jump out?
Im blue hes red

Here is the helocentric composite

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posted May 05, 2012 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don`t have time to do interpretations, but just a word on the Heliocentric; it is not the chart of the soul in the sense of emotional attachment, but rather is a "Higher Self"-chart.


I quoting myself, as I once had put down an idea, but did not really follow this line of thought through, but it depicts my understanding on different zodiacs:


"The three planes:
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tropical: the physical plane; present incarnation, EARTH
Draco: emotional roots; past incarnations, MOON
helio: spiritual plane; either future incarnation, or operating out of the context of time, SUN

the helio is also said to relate to the Higher Self, and as twin flames have the same Higher Self (at least that is what I repeatedly read about it), the helios are a MUST in twin flame relationships.
As Draco`s are relating to the Moon and soul-connections, soulmates and Twinflame also MUST have strong Draco connections I guess

(1) strong tropica, strong Draco and strong helio:
° twinflames
° probably ready for reunion on earth, as shown by the connections to tropical

(2) weak tropical, strong Draco and strong Helio
° possibly twinflames, who are not yet ready or missing opportunities to be reunited in this earthly incarnation, though their souls and spirits will resonate with each other still
(maybe these will bring the most pain)

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(3) strong tropical, strong Draco, weak helio
° probably no twinflames, as the spiritual or Higher Selves connection is weak
° soulmates with strong soulattachment plus shared past lives
° reconnecting to either solve unfinished karma (esp. if the Draconic aspects are challenging) or because the past shared joy drew them together again

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(4) strong tropical and strong helio, weak Draco

this one puzzles me a lot


° possibly spiritual guides for each other
° it could be that there is no emotional attachment, so they would not be soulmates; or it could be that it just means there has been no past life stuff at work
(it depends how we interprete the Draconics I guess. Is it JUST past life stuff, or is it also relating to a soul-connection?)

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(5) weak tropical, strong Draco, weak helio
° possibly soul- or karmamate with emotional attachment and shared past life experiences
° since the tropical is weak, maybe no reconnection in this life, or mit might indicate that they need to take a "break" from each other

(6) weak tropical, weak Draco, strong helio
° spiritual connection is present, but maybe more like a "background program"
° there seems to be a separation from each other on the physical plane

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(7) strong tropical, weak Draco, weak helio
° Earthmates
° neither soulmates nor twinflames
° probably the start of a new cycle with new souls, maybe even from other soulgroups

(8) weak tropical, weak, Draco, weak helio
° "soulstrangers"


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Of course we would have to define what "strong" and "weak" means (imo, "weak" is rather a lack of aspects than challenging ones).

Also, there are still aspects in the tropical for example, that will show a soul-connection on the physical plane.
Like Moon/Pluto or Moon/ASC etc. for example."
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Linda Jones
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posted May 05, 2012 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AWESOME INFORMATION, Ceridwen! I was myself curious about the Draco and Helio versus the Tropical (would have asked you at some point).

THIS IS GOLD! Thanks.

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posted May 06, 2012 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOo Thanks CERI!!!
Thats some good info...

No worries I wasnt really asking for a reading.. I was only curious if something specific stood out.. Sorry If I didnt state that correctly...

So heliocentric is higher self .. Ok yes I was confused about that...

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posted May 06, 2012 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for freedomlover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THANKS CERI!

what does it mean when the natal NN is in 3deg of Aries.. it would mean that the tropical and draconic are almost the same chart.. im wondering cause i know someone very special with this..

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posted May 08, 2012 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VelvetPriestess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen - how would rate rate an Isis/Osiris connection in the Helio differently or more highly than in the tropical?

PS. Awesome post Ceri

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posted May 08, 2012 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VelvetPriestess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Of course we would have to define what "strong" and "weak" means (imo, "weak" is rather a lack of aspects than challenging ones).

So it is quite possible in your opinion to have a bucketful of Saturn challenges in the charts and still have a strong soul-connection.

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Ceridwen
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posted August 09, 2012 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump


Also tropical the same as Draco chart - great field of research I guess. Theoretically it might mean that the physical and soullevel are inseparately linked. What effects one, effects the other equally as well. MAybe it means that these people are quite close to their soul`s path, or that it is even more important for them than for others. But basically I have no clue.


Isis/Osiris in helio isnīt better or worse than in tropical. It is just, well, maybe more spiritual. It would need a tight aspect, preferably a conjunction, to the tropical though, to have a channel or portal through which the Isis-Osiris-spiritual connection can be experienced on the earthly manifestation level.


And yes, SAturn-challenges do not exclude the possibility of a soulconnection (no soulconnection-aspects do), but of course sometimes the challenges can grow too weary.

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posted August 09, 2012 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, I'm gonna have some tea and I'll be back.

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