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VelvetPriestess
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posted May 08, 2012 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VelvetPriestess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the meaning of the asteroid Atlantis in the birthchart? What does it symbolise and how does it affect what it touches?

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posted May 09, 2012 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For a vast majority of people who sense a spiritual side to themselves, Asteroid Atlantis gives them a clue about their Atlantis Lifeline. Nearly half of the people on the planet today have a direct connection or an ancestral/genetic connection to Atlantis. Many have multiple lifelines there.

When Atlantis conjuncts a Galactic Object [GC, SGC, GA] or a powerful Fixed Star, then it is possible that the person was a Star Seed in the Atlantis Era.

Most of us messed up in Atlantis, whether Star Seeds or Regular Earth Humans.

Knowledge of Asteroid Atlantis' position in the chart will help us prevent that error from repeating.

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posted May 09, 2012 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

sorry for butting in, but how would you interprete Atlantis being conjunct SGC in a composite chart?

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posted May 09, 2012 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VelvetPriestess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much for your answer, I have Atlantis conjunct my Mercury.

What is GC, SGC, GA please?

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posted May 10, 2012 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Atlantis being conjunct SGC in a composite chart:
The couple worked together from a different Galaxy and either spiritually contacted Atlanteans or incarnated on a joint mission to rescue Atlantis.


SGC: Super Galactic Center at approx 1.5 Libra

GC: Galactic Center at 27.00 Sagittarius

GA: Great Attractor, a black hole at approx 14 Sagittarius.

I have Neptune conjunct GA exact, Saturn trine GA exact, Mercury opp GC exact and Lucifer conjunct SGC exact.

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posted May 10, 2012 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Atlantis being conjunct SGC in a composite chart:
The couple worked together from a different Galaxy and either spiritually contacted Atlanteans or incarnated on a joint mission to rescue Atlantis.



That is interesting, IQ.
Since Atlantis is squaring Sun on 1 Cap and Saturn on 1 Cancer with Nn on 28 Sag and SN on 28 Gemini, it probably did not work out too well.

Interstingly the synastric theme of his Lucifer/ASC/Briede conjunct my Angel/Atlantis/ASC/Groom/NN as well.
Misson failed (or aborted?) I would say.

(because of the Saturn on SN being opposite Sun and squaring Atlantis in composite)

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posted May 10, 2012 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Velvet,

is the conjunction exact? On what Sabian does it fall?
Do you identify with it? Maybe also in terms of your role in a past life in Atlantis (if you believe in past lives that is)?


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posted May 12, 2012 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VelvetPriestess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not exact, but just under 1 degree conjunct and in the 10th sabian. I do believe in past lives yes, but have never considered anything about Atlantis before now.

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posted May 12, 2012 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VelvetPriestess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the 10th Sabian means the 10th degree of the sign, is that what you mean Ceri?

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posted May 12, 2012 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean with 10th Sabian?
10th degree of which sign?
btw the 10th degree would actually be 9°00-9°59

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posted May 12, 2012 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always wondered about what Atlantis tells us in our chart. Good question

I have it in the 3rd House conjunct with Ceres, exact, with only one minute of orb. It is also conjunct my POF, Psyche and personal name asteroid within 2 degrees of orb.

It is also sextile Jupiter (ruler of my 7th) and Amor and trine Valentine. There is also a wide trine to my NN in the 6th and a sextile to my Moon and SN in the 12th.

Do you think that this might indicate having been a healer of some sort? That's the energy I came into this life with and it is what I do as a career (also blending it with spirituality).

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posted May 12, 2012 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VelvetPriestess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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On what Sabian does it fall?

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What do you mean with 10th Sabian?

I didn't understand your original question, looked it up and got a wrong answer - that it meant sign degree, then answered that question!

*blush*

So what is a sabian really?

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posted May 12, 2012 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi VelvetPriestess,

Sabians are the symbolic meaning assigned to each degree in each sign in the zodiac.

Check out this site at cafe astrology which has the complete list. http://www.cafeastrology.com/sabiansymbols_degreemeanings.html

Hope this helps

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posted May 13, 2012 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VelvetPriestess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Linda,

Thanks but that's where I looked already, obviously I misunderstood what it said.

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posted May 13, 2012 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, wow. How topical.

I've been looking at this. The individual placements of Atlantis aren't anything to write home about, (mine's conj my Jup-Sat in the 1H), his is a bit more exciting, heh, on his Moon, but loosely). The connections to the composite is a bit more interesting - for example, his Atlantis is conj. our composite Sun-Moon-Venus-Jupiter-Mercury-Uranus. My Atlantis sextiles all of it, but, is that really that big of a deal?)

It's our composite Atlantis which had me thinking: huh. It's just outside of the Scorpio stellium in the 12H with Saturn and Pluto. Specifically, Saturn, Pluto, Atlantis. 27-28-29. Libra.

Some intriguing stuff going on with the GC, too.

The GC is on his Sun, Mercury's at 15 Sag, so , GA, I believe, and he has a very unusual, somewhat frightening configuration at 15 Sagittarius involving the Part of Karma, and a large degree of fatalism.

Our natal Karma-Destinn's are conjunct each others, as well, and his Atlantis closely conjoins my natal Scorpio stellium and his Karma-Destinn. My Atlantis exactly squares his Sun-Magion, but, again, what does that even mean?

Fascinating stuff here.


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posted May 13, 2012 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Atlantis being conjunct SGC in a composite chart:
The couple worked together from a different Galaxy and either spiritually contacted Atlanteans or incarnated on a joint mission to rescue Atlantis.


iQ,

Please, if you would, tell me all you can about that. I think my stomach just flipped.

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posted May 13, 2012 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow atlantis sounds like a such an interesting asteroid

if one has link to sites explaining the asteroid in depth il be glad

ive got atlanis conj neptune,uranus and my asc (but im bot sure it counts cause ita a wide orb)

is there some meaning to this cause i think those conjunctions are purely generational

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posted May 14, 2012 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Velvet,

"Hi Linda,

Thanks but that's where I looked already, obviously I misunderstood what it said."

Could you post the degrees and sign of your Atlantis/Mercury conjunction? I think if we walk through it we might be able to figure it out.

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posted May 14, 2012 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Velvet Princess,

you said Atlantis was on the 10th degree, so I assume this relates to 9 degree and some minutes.
But of which sign?

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posted May 14, 2012 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VelvetPriestess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys

Atlantis 10 degrees Virgo. Mercury 9.5 degrees Virgo.

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posted May 14, 2012 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
K Velvet. So that would mean you would have to look for the Sabian symbol for 9-10 Virgo. From the cafe astrology site I listed earlier, the symbol is-

"9-10 deg Virgo

Two Heads Looking Out And Beyond The Shadows."

The conjunction is close enough to be exact. Ceridwen can likely help interpret the symbolic meaning of the Sabian if you want.

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posted May 15, 2012 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Atlantis is on 10°01 - 10°59, the next Sabian is valid for this one:

In Her Baby A Mother Sees Her Deep Longing For A Son Answered

Relating that to a past life, does it resonate with you? Even if you can`t logically explain why?
If not, it doesn`t matter much either; Sabians do not vibe with everyone I guess.

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posted May 15, 2012 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some longer interpretations on these Sabians:

from
http://mindfire.ca/The%20Sabian%20Symbols/An%20Astrological%20Mandala%20-%20Virgo%201-15.htm


9-10 Virgo:
"PHASE 160 (VIRGO 10°): TWO HEADS LOOKING OUT AND BEYOND THE SHADOWS.

KEYNOTE: The growth of true understanding, born out of the transcendence of duality even while immersed in the world of duality.

The mind operates inevitably in this world of conflicts, oppositions and duality. Yet when the opposites realize that they are complementary aspects of the one Reality which sustains and encompasses all dualistic modes of existence, they are able then to look away from internal conflicts and beyond the shadows these conflicts generate. They may come to realize the One Consciousness-Force, not in Itself (for this is, if not an impossible, at least an inexpressible experience), but as the Creative Unity, the New God, Ishvara, source of a new cycle of manifestation.

This is the last stage of the thirty-second sequence; it leads us to the new sequence, which deals with the characteristic features of the steadily progressing consciousness in the most critical part along its arduous Path toward transformation. In a deep philosophical sense we witness here the mind attempting to jump beyond the very shadow it inevitably casts upon all experiences; i.e. the SELF-TRANSCENDING ACTIVITY OF THE MIND."

10-11 Virgo
" PHASE 161 (VIRGO 11°): IN HER BABY A MOTHER SEES HER DEEP LONGING FOR A SON ANSWERED.

KEYNOTE: The Spirit's answer to the vital needs of whatever became individualized out of its infinite ocean of potentialities.

All cycles of manifestation end in an essential duality of "success" and "failure," as every release of new potentiality at the start of a cycle is inevitably polarized in two opposite directions, becoming sharply differentiated at the mystical "separation of the sheep and the goat." But out of duality a new unity eventually is produced: the child, the new God of a new universe. Subconsciously or consciously, during pregnancy, the mother dreams of the son-to-be and the imprint of the dream in time is revealed in the boy's structural being. The true disciple must become the Mother of the living God and should eventually fulfill the great need of humanity and of all his people. MAN is constantly renewed through the great dreams and sacramental pregnancies of all disciples of the One Master.

This is the first stage of the thirty-third five-fold sequence of phases of the cycle. At this stage the power to bring one's dreams and ideals to a clear and sharp focus of mental activity or imagination needs to be developed. It is the power of creative visualization (Kriyashakti) for which a significant word was coined during World War II: IMAGINEERING — a combination of "imagination" and "engineering." Alas, the word was there, but our statesmen failed to incarnate it in deeds. "


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posted May 15, 2012 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering if the SAbian of 9-10 Virgo might be hinting at twinsouls (like some others), because of the strong theme of duality, and in Plato`s myth, the original being, being split into, of course has two heads as well (and two sets of arms and legs).

In your case you might have had a "Mercurial role" in an Atlantis past life, a disciple, a writer, a scientist, someone who observed and wrote down what he saw, or in relation to the present life it means that you probably can verbalize thoughts and ideas about Atlantis pretty well. Using your Mercury in relation to Atlantis.

It is also of importance which house (Placidus) is ruled by Mercury.

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posted May 15, 2012 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alternatively Atlantis could also be indicative of a huge global catastrophe, triggered by human hybris.
And of course it relates to water as well, as ti was sunk.
Do you have it aspecting Neptune, Poseidon or Varuna?
I am asking cause my own Atlantis is conjunct Neptune and asteroid Poseidon, and opposing Varuna, and there is a lot of "water-and-drowning"-family karma.
As a matter of fact I drowned myself when I was about 2 years old, and I was just lucky, as apparently I had been so shocked of falling into the water that my lungs closed and no water got into them, and that my Dad found me quickly enough.
Well, I also have Angel conjunct my Atlantis exact. lol

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