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Topic: Lilith personality
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Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 05, 2012 08:41 PM
I've been reading about Lilith its amazing, she breaks the mold, and goes against society norms. Be it in a positive or negative way. As we all know she empowers us.Like for instant if someone has Lilith (not the asteroid) conjunct asc they would possibly embody Lilith in the way they present themselves to the world. Marilyn Monroe was a Lilith rising in leo she was trend setter for sure. Leo is already glamorous but Lilith made her stand out. She seems to portray more depth and inner beauty on screen. So I noticed a trend in my own chart. 7th house Lilith conjuncts my descendant and the asteroid lust, In aquarius. In contrast to that, I have asteroid Lilith conjunct my ascendant,Eros and Chiron. I don't think I give out a controversial image to others, I'm actually really shy and tame. Although I've always felt out of place in society. Lilith's opposite point is called Priapus; which is on my ascendant. It symbolizes our deepest self; masochism, extreme sensuality, impulsiveness, irrationality and excess. I noticed I tend to attract extremely rebellious people, and they seem to stand for everything Lilith is about. I get into all types of shenanigans when I'm in relationships, even with the law... In hind sight may not be positive but it breaks me out of my shell. I noticed in relationships i'm more impulsive and liberated. My art is exciting, its more sensuous and risky. Lilith is also aspecting venus so that might explain my creativity. I think with every relationship there seems to be enormous amounts of growth So I'm wondering where your Lilith is?
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sweet-scorpion Moderator Posts: 2427 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 05, 2012 10:36 PM
I have my Lilith in the 5th House in Taurus. It is most likely conjunct my SN. Opposite my Venus and Jupiter. Trine Moon, Neptune, Uranus. Also conjunct Pallas.I think Venus opposite Lilith makes me swing from one extreme in love to the other: total devotion to a loved one and then aggressive independence in love. I'm not quite sure about Lilith opposite Jupiter manifests. Sometimes I wonder if this is the aspect is what makes me sometimes feel I am perpetually unlucky, yet not really unlucky. It seems that *I* am the only one who sees myself as worthless at times, whereas many other people emulate me and really believe in my success. I think I've read this one can make your own psychological wounds make you feel lacking in success... I think this aspect shows I need to develop my self-confidence and get over my past to move to merging with others in the future. I also totally relate to this description of H5 Lilith: "In a female chart, this position can indicate a great ambivalence as far as having children is concerned: on the one hand, extremely intense desire (but Black Moon desires are like violent and hidden passions); on the other hand repulsion and deep fears (as in fear of delivery, for instance, or fear of hating one's child)..." I really feel sad about this since it's true. I feel that I am quite nurturing to other kids and that as one who wants to positively influence the younger generation, this is good for me. But on the dark side it makes me adamant about not giving birth and being 'used' by a man that way. Sounds abnormal but it's true. :/ IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 05, 2012 10:56 PM
I definitely qualify as a 'Lilith personality'. She's fascinated me for a long time.The Black Moon sits exactly on my Pluto and within a 2* conjunction of my Sun. Lilith (1181) is conjunct (and parallel) my Moon, Mercury, Eros and Uranus. Makes life interesting. -A. IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 06, 2012 01:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: I definitely qualify as a 'Lilith personality'. She's fascinated me for a long time.The Black Moon sits exactly on my Pluto and within a 2* conjunction of my Sun. Lilith (1181) is conjunct (and parallel) my Moon, Mercury, Eros and Uranus. Makes life interesting. -A.
Agree, I remember long before I knew about astrology the biblical goddess Lilith always fascinated me. I loved everything she stood for. I'm male but I think I'm extremely in touch with my femininity in healthy, balanced, and creative way. I've always been fascinated by strong women, being raised by a hard working single mother would also influence that Moon/Lilith aspects are extremely powerful, I have a square. Hmmm I just realized you meant the asteroid Lilith, I'm not sure what representation moon and asteroid Lilith is. IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 06, 2012 01:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: I have my Lilith in the 5th House in Taurus. It is most likely conjunct my SN. Opposite my Venus and Jupiter. Trine Moon, Neptune, Uranus. Also conjunct Pallas.I think Venus opposite Lilith makes me swing from one extreme in love to the other: total devotion to a loved one and then aggressive independence in love. I'm not quite sure about Lilith opposite Jupiter manifests. Sometimes I wonder if this is the aspect is what makes me sometimes feel I am perpetually unlucky, yet not really unlucky. It seems that *I* am the only one who sees myself as worthless at times, whereas many other people emulate me and really believe in my success. I think I've read this one can make your own psychological wounds make you feel lacking in success... I think this aspect shows I need to develop my self-confidence and get over my past to move to merging with others in the future. I also totally relate to this description of H5 Lilith: "In a female chart, this position can indicate a great ambivalence as far as having children is concerned: on the one hand, extremely intense desire (but Black Moon desires are like violent and hidden passions); on the other hand repulsion and deep fears (as in fear of delivery, for instance, or fear of hating one's child)..." I really feel sad about this since it's true. I feel that I am quite nurturing to other kids and that as one who wants to positively influence the younger generation, this is good for me. But on the dark side it makes me adamant about not giving birth and being 'used' by a man that way. Sounds abnormal but it's true. :/
I know Lilith conjunctions adds extreme depth to any planet, I would imagine opposition would too. I know Lilith/ venus conjunctions give women a femme fatal persona. Megan fox has one. Maybe adoption might be for you when your ready to have kids. Who says you need to have a partner to have children, when they're many orphans who need good parents. Just food for thought. Especially with Lilith in the 5th house IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 06, 2012 02:24 AM
To differentiate, I use 'Black Moon' to refer to 'Black Moon Lilith' and just 'Lilith' for the asteroid. I can imagine that Moon-Lilith would have the same perception as Venus-Lilith, actually. The 'femme fatale' thing comes very naturally to me. -A. IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 06, 2012 04:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: To differentiate, I use 'Black Moon' to refer to 'Black Moon Lilith' and just 'Lilith' for the asteroid. I can imagine that Moon-Lilith would have the same perception as Venus-Lilith, actually. The 'femme fatale' thing comes very naturally to me. -A.
I've believe the moon is our persona while the sun is your soul and vitality. I study both western and Vedic astrology. Yeah I can see moon and Lilith making one a femme fatal. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 8671 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted June 06, 2012 11:22 AM
I have BML conjunct my Moon and RX Pluto house 6.
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IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 06, 2012 05:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: I've believe the moon is our persona while the sun is your soul and vitality. I study both western and Vedic astrology.Yeah I can see moon and Lilith making one a femme fatal.
-nod- I was a dominatrix and practising sex therapist, which led to quickly becoming a media personality, producing and performing in the adult industry. I achieved some local fame in the Los Angeles area shortly after I moved out here. It freaked me out, though, on a deep level. I couldn't take being the obsession of hundreds of strange men of whom I wasn't even aware of their existence, and panicked. Luckily, I found some confidence and solace in a recently retiring celebrity for whom I had tremendous respect, since we adhered to the same principles, which were constantly being attacked by the industry (and us with them). We simply refused to appear nude and wanted to help others. She'd become a philanthropist (many years ago) and I put my psych degrees to work. Soon, I separated the persona from my work completely, and then ditched it altogether, taking an indefinite leave from my practise (but still doing certain media venues) in order to focus on developing my mainstream projects, and establish myself as a producer here in LA, having NOTHING to do with the adult industry. I've not checked the progressed charts, but I'll bet that Lilith was even more prominent than usual. -A.
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IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 06, 2012 05:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: Lilith's opposite point is called Priapus; which is on my ascendant. It symbolizes our deepest self; masochism, extreme sensuality, impulsiveness, irrationality and excess.
Wow. I've been SO swamped I didn't even SEE this. Priapus, huh? Not only is the name hysterical, I'll bet money it's very prominent in the charts of submissive men - and women - alike. Any suggestion as to what points to check - besides the majors? Special focus on the Moon, perhaps? Regardless of gender? This is really fascinating to me. I love learning something new. -A.
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violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1800 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 02:02 AM
I have Lillith conjunct Sun, off by some minutes.very shortly,I feel Lillith is raw feminine energy. I believe it gives a sort of fearlessness. It gives a fearless femininity. Lillith is a woman who is full of deep passions and desires.There is a strong primal sexuality that a lillith person radiates also. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 07, 2012 07:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: I have Lillith conjunct Sun, off by some minutes.very shortly,I feel Lillith is raw feminine energy. I believe it gives a sort of fearlessness. It gives a fearless femininity. Lillith is a woman who is full of deep passions and desires.There is a strong primal sexuality that a lillith person radiates also.
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yvetterocks101 Knowflake Posts: 196 From: New York Registered: May 2012
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posted June 11, 2012 12:24 AM
I never payed attention to Lilith before but i decided to look at my chart to see if i have any aspect. I have my Venus Conjunct Lilith very tightly by 1.8 orbs and minor aspect like:Mercury Septile Lilith 0.2 orb Uranus Septile Lilith 0.2 orb Neptune Septile Lilith Sun Semi-Square Lilith and Venus Mars trine Lilith Moon sesiquadrate however you pronounce that word aspecting Lilith I have my Venus and Lilith in the 7th house in Aquarius Cusp, i personally don't know how that plays out but i heard having Venus in the 7th house making you codependent in relationship etc. I never dated before and I'm much not interested but i do having this tendency that when i go somewhere i have to have someone with me lol ------------------ "You know that place between sleep and awake, the place where you can still remember dreaming? That's where I'll always love you, Peter Pan. That's where I'll be waiting." - J. M. Barrie, Peter Pan IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 12, 2012 01:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: -nod- I was a dominatrix and practising sex therapist, which led to quickly becoming a media personality, producing and performing in the adult industry. I achieved some local fame in the Los Angeles area shortly after I moved out here.It freaked me out, though, on a deep level. I couldn't take being the obsession of hundreds of strange men of whom I wasn't even aware of their existence, and panicked. Luckily, I found some confidence and solace in a recently retiring celebrity for whom I had tremendous respect, since we adhered to the same principles, which were constantly being attacked by the industry (and us with them). We simply refused to appear nude and wanted to help others. She'd become a philanthropist (many years ago) and I put my psych degrees to work. Soon, I separated the persona from my work completely, and then ditched it altogether, taking an indefinite leave from my practise (but still doing certain media venues) in order to focus on developing my mainstream projects, and establish myself as a producer here in LA, having NOTHING to do with the adult industry. I've not checked the progressed charts, but I'll bet that Lilith was even more prominent than usual. -A.
You preformed in the sex industry? Thats so interested I've always wanted to do that when I was younger.. I've thought about doing porn for a long time, I'm going to college thou. Money is tight and its tempting.. IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 12, 2012 01:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Wow. I've been SO swamped I didn't even SEE this. Priapus, huh? Not only is the name hysterical, I'll bet money it's very prominent in the charts of submissive men - and women - alike.Any suggestion as to what points to check - besides the majors? Special focus on the Moon, perhaps? Regardless of gender? This is really fascinating to me. I love learning something new. -A.
Sasha Grey has sun opposite lilith, she has priapus on her sun. It makes so much sense :O IP: Logged |
Chaos Knowflake Posts: 442 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 12, 2012 07:30 PM
What about an out of bounds 4th house Lilith, exactly opposing Neptne, exactly sextile Moon, and trines Pluto? I have that... Edit: pardon me, 3rd house... IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2012 03:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: You preformed in the sex industry? Thats so interested I've always wanted to do that when I was younger.. I've thought about doing porn for a long time, I'm going to college thou. Money is tight and its tempting..
Mainly directed. My husband and I produced several videos in the fetish genre. I got to work with some amazing personalities, though. I performed in a few of them, but, again, stuck to my principles. I refuse to be performing any kind of sex act which doesn't involve domination, nor did I ever appear nude. You can see how this limited things, heh, and I tended to prefer directing. I did a series where I was counselling a couple (sometimes, a real couple, but they were always playing roles and creating fake problems) as I either normally would, or, since it was porn, always declare how the man just needed a woman to take charge, blah, blah, blah. But, hey. They sold well. Don't ever do it for the money. Do it because you enjoy it, you're safe, you have good business aptitude, and a set of principles that you adhere to, NO MATTER WHAT. -A.
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IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2012 03:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: Sasha Grey has sun opposite lilith, she has priapus on her sun. It makes so much sense :O
It DOES, actually. She's SUCH a sub. Man. I wonder how close the conjunction is. -A.
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Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 14, 2012 10:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: It DOES, actually. She's SUCH a sub. Man. I wonder how close the conjunction is.-A.
Its not exact I'm think 4 or 5 degrees away, If I remember correctly. I'm laughing right now, because people often boss me around, priapus is on my ascendant. At work and even in college I'm given tasks that are not even my responsibility, or job... In high school this one cafeteria attendant/supervisor ( I'm not sure what she was even paid for) would ask me to clean up junk from neighboring tables everyday, because once I was nice and did it, I would argue because its not my freaking job to clean other peoples crap I don't mind doing things for others as long as its not to much effort on my part, naturally. I attract dominating partners so its the same in the bed too. Funny how it works like that
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Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 14, 2012 10:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chaos: What about an out of bounds 4th house Lilith, exactly opposing Neptne, exactly sextile Moon, and trines Pluto? I have that... Edit: pardon me, 3rd house...
4th house rules the home its traditionally ruled by the moon or mother. Whats your mother or home life like? Also neptune in the 10th house so I'm sure it effects the career. I'm not really sure thou.. Sometimes if you understand Lilith you can evaluate your life. http://darkstarastrology.com/moon-sextile-lilith/ IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 630 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 14, 2012 10:19 PM
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Lexyr14 Knowflake Posts: 185 From: Tucson,AZ,USA Registered: May 2012
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posted June 15, 2012 12:44 AM
I am just getting into this... not sure what it all means... I have a feeling it will be important for me to know for some strange reason... would anyone be able to tell me about any of these aspects? THANX A MILLION!My BML 22 Cancer is exactly conjunct my Venus (7th house) 0 Deg. Inconjunct Uranus-Rx (12th house ) 0 Deg. Lilith Asteroid 7 Cancer is Exactly trine my pluto ( 10th house ) 0 Deg, Opposite Neptune-Rx (12th house) -1Deg, Conjunct Moon & Mercury ( 6th house ) both 3Deg. Lilith Dark Moon is 26 Cancer Rx is Semisextile Chiron( 6th house ) 0Deg, Square Jupiter ( 3rd house ) -2 Deg Conjunct Venus ( 7th house ) 3 Deg Conjunct Sun ( 7th house ) 4 Deg IP: Logged |
Lexyr14 Knowflake Posts: 185 From: Tucson,AZ,USA Registered: May 2012
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posted June 15, 2012 07:03 AM
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PiscesBabyGirl333 Newflake Posts: 3 From: Lenoir, NC, US Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 17, 2012 02:28 PM
Can someone explain to me what "Moon Square Lilith" means exactly? If it helps, my Lilith is in Pisces and Moon is in Gemini. Thanks!IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 7119 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 18, 2012 09:26 AM
I definitely have a influence of Lilith on my personality. BML in Scorpio trine my Sun, Isis,& Amor. Opposite ASC, Moon, Eros, and Psyche. Sextile Nymphe and lastly Inconjuct Venus. IP: Logged | |