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sillyme
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posted June 07, 2012 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sillyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would Nessus conjunct Sun in the composite mean?
And in another, composite Nessus conjunct Juno. is that bad?

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posted June 07, 2012 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have to assess other planets too. If Saturn or Uranus squares Composite Nessus-Sun or Nessus-JUNO, then the relationship will descend into emotional abuse or even physical abuse.

If Mars or Pluto tightly square an exact Nessus-Sun or Nessus-JUNO conjuucntion, then it becomes a relationship from hell, unless there are half a dozen good aspects to calm things down.

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posted June 07, 2012 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sillyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
You have to assess other planets too. If Saturn or Uranus squares Composite Nessus-Sun or Nessus-JUNO, then the relationship will descend into emotional abuse or even physical abuse.

If Mars or Pluto tightly square an exact Nessus-Sun or Nessus-JUNO conjuucntion, then it becomes a relationship from hell, unless there are half a dozen good aspects to calm things down.


Thanks iQ

In both cases there is a square from Saturn.
The nessus-sun conjunction has a one degree orb with saturn squaring nessus at 3.5 degrees.This nessus-sun is also trine ascendant and uranus.
In the other composite, the nessus-juno conjunction has a 2.5 degree orb with saturn squaring nessus at 3 degrees.
But this nessus has sextile frm sun, trines from moon,mercury,venus.

So will they help soften it?

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posted June 07, 2012 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
You have to assess other planets too. If Saturn or Uranus squares Composite Nessus-Sun or Nessus-JUNO, then the relationship will descend into emotional abuse or even physical abuse.

If Mars or Pluto tightly square an exact Nessus-Sun or Nessus-JUNO conjuucntion, then it becomes a relationship from hell, unless there are half a dozen good aspects to calm things down.



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posted June 07, 2012 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also another example from the reality about nessus conj sun composite aspect.

My grandmother and grandfather had sun conj nessus conj eros conj mercury in their composite. They got 11 children and was togheter from they was young. When my grandmother died at 83 my grandfather was in so strong grief and died after a half year because that. They was obsessed in love to each other through the life... not any dangerous at all between them

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posted June 09, 2012 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sillyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by popcorn:
Also another example from the reality about nessus conj sun composite aspect.

My grandmother and grandfather had sun conj nessus conj eros conj mercury in their composite. They got 11 children and was togheter from they was young. When my grandmother died at 83 my grandfather was in so strong grief and died after a half year because that. They was obsessed in love to each other through the life... not any dangerous at all between them


wow
surely their synastry would have been very nice too?

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posted June 09, 2012 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sillyme:
wow
surely their synastry would have been very nice too?


I write wrong theirs nessus was in square to sun con mercury conj eros.

What do you mean with nice? lacy soft aspect?
They was born the same year, mars and sept1903 and got nessus in square to pluto in their natal. My grandmother have nessus in conj to jupiter and my grandfather had sun conj nessus.
their chiron conj chiron
uranus conj uranus
pluto conj pluto
juno conj juno
valentine conj valentine
eros conj eros

They was hard working persons both of them. They work hard togheter to give their children a good future. On that time it was not easy to feed 11 children.

Their composite also have an venus trine mars.

Their charts and synastry are an mix of hard and easy aspects and this seems to me be the most evolving and best for peoples life.

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posted June 09, 2012 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Popcorn's grandparents example is invalid.
1. It is a case of superbly positive love aspects dominating the charts.

2. The charts are of Twin Flames. Only a Twin will die of grief when the other half dies. Nessus dynamic is never active in such cases.

3. Orbs are not mentioned. Nessus squares have minimal effect beyond 2 degrees in squares.

4. The family of Centaurs was discovered after 1977 and Nessus was discovered after 1993. The negative effect of Archetype Themes in celestial objects magnifies only after its actual discovery and naming. This is why the world saw very few cases of planned, serial killing by individuals prior to 1977. Nessus was not effectively manifest in its dark side till the discovery of Chiron activated Centaurs in every chart.

Documented evidence shows Bundy, Rader, Fred West, Dahmler, Chikatilo and Javed Igbal went berserk after 1977 [Bundy, West and Rader did commit some murders from 1974 but intensified after 1977]. Chikatilo killed 53 innocents from 1978 even though he was older than Bundy. Iqbal killed over a 100 after 1977, mostly after 1993 when Nessus was named.

The Reality of Nessus is that when it afflicts personal planets with tight orbs AND if there are no powerful love aspects or positive trines in charts, it always manifests its ugly side.

Look at psycho Luka's chart in the main forum. Nessus conjunct Sun and Mercury square KARMA exact with no good soft aspects in his chart triggered his psychopathic impulses.

Same thing will happen in synastry and composite, as have already occurred in over a dozen real cases of clients and their friends across the world.

One has to be extremely careful about Nessus afflictions in synastry and composite. When there are no soft aspects, Nessus Affliction will create an intense desire to sexually abuse and even kill the victim. This is not a laughing matter but a fact seen from the chart of each and every serial killer in modern history.


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posted June 09, 2012 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
((One has to be extremely careful about Nessus afflictions in synastry and composite. When there are no soft aspects))

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posted June 11, 2012 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sillyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 11, 2012 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sillyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by popcorn:

I write wrong theirs nessus was in square to sun con mercury conj eros.

What do you mean with nice? lacy soft aspect?
They was born the same year, mars and sept1903 and got nessus in square to pluto in their natal. My grandmother have nessus in conj to jupiter and my grandfather had sun conj nessus.
their chiron conj chiron
uranus conj uranus
pluto conj pluto
juno conj juno
valentine conj valentine
eros conj eros

They was hard working persons both of them. They work hard togheter to give their children a good future. On that time it was not easy to feed 11 children.

Their composite also have an venus trine mars.

Their charts and synastry are an mix of hard and easy aspects and this seems to me be the most evolving and best for peoples life.


Their charts and synastry are an mix of hard and easy aspects and this seems to me be the most evolving and best for peoples life.

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posted June 11, 2012 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sillyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow.
Thanks for the info, iQ.

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