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quinnlycanastro
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posted July 18, 2012 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a really good list of asteroids named after famous people. There's a few different categories.

Interestingly, Destinn has nothing to do with destiny and was named after a very talented opera singer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_planets_named_after_people#Philosophers

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posted July 18, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Certainly. ...I like how significant asteroid Yeshuhua (3241) seems to be as indicating Yeshua (Jesus)...while it is the namesake of Ye Shuhua, a female Chinese astronomer.

And of course there are asteroids Lust, Dick and Pecker. ...All people of course! What were you thinking?

The universe is truly amazing, though...that despite the circumstances of their naming, it's the actual energy in the concept suggested that has power.

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posted July 18, 2012 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The naming is only a part of it. Most astrologers take the orbit and other factors into account too.

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posted July 18, 2012 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by quinnlycanastro:
This is a really good list of asteroids named after famous people. There's a few different categories.

Interestingly, Destinn has nothing to do with destiny and was named after a very talented opera singer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_planets_named_after_people#Philosophers



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posted July 18, 2012 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And destinn was named after destiny? Correct?

So it still means destiny...
Doesn't matter if it's someone's name.

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posted July 18, 2012 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No it wasn't named after destiny, it was named after an opera singer in honour of her talent. There could be a connection to a gift or a high level of sill. She did have other talents too but it was the singing she was most famous for. I think she originally planned to be a violin virtuoso or something but then discovered she had a strong voice.

It's actually quite interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ema_Destinnov%C3%A1

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posted July 18, 2012 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No I mean the womans name was chosen from 'destiny'..

They chose the name 'destinn' for her because of the word 'destiny'. So it's all relative.

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posted July 18, 2012 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No.

It's a Czech surname and has NO connection to the English word of destiny.

The Czech word for fate/destiny appears to be osud.

There is no direct translation for it,

desti ~ is rain, but that was the closest I found. I'm not a Czech speaker so I can't dig any further :/

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posted July 19, 2012 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But anyway, most people have associated it with Destiny, so i guess, that's what it's all about. The meaning WE assign to the word is what matters. If you ask a random person in the street, what is the first thing they think of when hear a word Destinn, i suppose everyone will answer - Destiny.

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posted July 19, 2012 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And using your logic ~ Pluto is a dog that belongs to Micky Mouse.

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posted July 19, 2012 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubt that, if you ask a random man what is Pluto, he will answer you that.

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posted July 19, 2012 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aeline ~ the reason astrology [and asteroids in particular] don't get taken seriously is because of people twisting meanings to suit their own needs.

The fact is that particular asteroid was named after a hugely successful opera singer and THAT has a connection to the ultimate meaning.

It's far more likely that Destinn points to an extreme amount of talent in a creative field.

There are already enough asteroids that do directly link to fate and destiny without making others up to suit.

And if you ask a random man about Pluto [who didn't link it to Disney] I imagine they wouldn't even know it got downgraded to a dwarf.

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posted July 19, 2012 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And ironically, Destinn was originally called Destinnova and changed her name to honour her teacher and here we have a situation where the asteroid named after her ~ is having it's meaning changed because people see it as destiny.

There might even be something to suggest that Destinn means a change in direction from original intentions. Or maybe it indicates a name change itself? Which is why people are obsessed with it having a connection to soulmates [where it usually gets brought into play]....because there's a subconscious knowing that it could mean a change in surname through marriage.

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posted July 19, 2012 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to quinnlycanastro!!

Emmy Destinn Marriage of Figaro and Magic Flute - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MsneX65Zdg&feature=related
Emmy Destinn - Vissi D'arte - Tosca - Puccini - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSLVcTqz8cA&feature=related

26 February 1878 – 28 January 1930) was a Czech operatic soprano with a strong and soaring lyric-dramatic voice. She had a career both in Europe and at the New York Metropolitan Opera.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ema_Destinnov%C3%A1

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posted July 19, 2012 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is interesting, Quinnly. Actual supporting data regarding asteroid research is something many of us are interested in here, amongst the otherwise free-form sharing of ideas among us non-professional astrology fans. ...Who says no one takes asteroids seriously? Don't the best astrologers incorporate their intuitive and right-brained abilities, as well? And does there have to be a crusade to convince others of their validity? "If you build it, they will come." If there is validity, it will eventually be seen, no? ...Please--go easy on us--we have so much fun playing with asteroids here!

Do you have any chart examples of these themes for Destinn that you mention? Some more about what you've shared? Have you seen it reflected in the chart, upon someone changing their name?

...I legally changed my own name, several years ago...not because of marriage or any partnering. Hmm...perhaps I'll try to dig up my records of that time, and see if Destinn was at play?

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posted July 20, 2012 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I really like what quinnlycanastro is doing here. There is so much potential for learning the true shades of meanings and astrological qualities of these relatively new space objects.

Jovian. You KNOW how I LOVE to have fun on the sites? If we were to just shape up the borders to make things more true, then we all can have fun AND learn astrology.

Real astrology (versus superficial) can REALLY and ACTUALLY help guide our lives-- having accurate information can make our fun also a tool for REAL life.

For example, CRAYOLA Crayons (Brand)[Binney&Smith] changed labeling their colors of crayons.

My heart sunk when I saw them using the 'trendy' names for colors rather than sticking to the color-standards of numbering and labeling consistent with artist palette colors. The children may 'feel' they are being 'artists' (and they are), but I feel the children today have been educationally cheated.

When a child uses crayons labeled according to the actual associated artist-colors, the child's brain is more discriminating, and the ones gifted with artistic talent actually "see" the various pigments and blends on the palette of their imagination. They blend knowledge and instincts. They know how to paint Nature scenes as an adult in an art class; they'll know 'how' to see when they hold and perceive a 'blueberry.'

It's been a long time since I've played with crayons, but as I look at the colors THIS "PINK" website, I can ALMOST remember the actual artist-names of the shades of these various colors!

With the branch of asteroid astrology bursting open with new discoveries now, we have a special opportunity to learn "real" meanings. For me, I perceived quinnlycanastro as putting bumper-pads in the gullies so that our bowling balls DO actually strike 'some' kind of pin for us.

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posted July 20, 2012 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transiting Destinn is currently at 7 Pisces and Ema Destinova had it at 9 degrees Pisces...

Her Sun is at 7 degrees Pisces so she had sun conjunct Destinn in her natal, I know it's 2 degrees but LOL it's too close not to let her have it.


I also like that her Urania/Uranus conjunction [which I have in libra] is conjunct my Leo sun by 1 degree... she mused for the muse.

Another really interesting fact I found is that she has asteroid Carmen [named after the opera] conjunct her Sun. The opera Carmen was actually based on a book by the same name ~ so again we have something that started out as one thing and ended up as something different. The book is much less well known than the opera and Destinn was also a writer but most well known for the opera!

She also had asteroid Fama [goddess of rumours] conjunct her Sun [just over one degree but less than 1/2 a degree from Carmen]....the asteroid Destinn was less than 1/2 a degree from Fama and less than 2 degrees all in all from her sun, so she had Carmen, Fama and Destinn all close to her sun.

My natal Destinn is at 12 Pisces... it has a 4.3 yr orbit [I think]...

@Jovian ~ There's a time for fun and a time to be serious. I had a whale of a time one night last year when I laughed myself into hysterics whilst looking through charts to see who had their Pecker conjunct my Fanny. I'd also been looking at who had Dudu next to their Uranus... I'm not averse to having fun with the asteroids at all and I've had an awful lot of enjoyment from them.

But I'm a professional and I have a self imposed duty of care to try to make sure that any information I present is as accurate as possible. No, I haven't been through my list of charts or through ADB to look for supporting info. I've got too much other stuff to do and even then, I'm sure I'd be able to find charts to support what I'm saying but it wouldn't be an objective study.

Part of my job, is to play as a muse. I have Uranus conjunct Urania in the 11th. I'm a muse for all things Uranian. We name a planet or body and it embodies "that which it was named after". We then project and transfer our human stuff onto it and hopefully somewhere along the line we grow or learn. They are mirrors/signposts rather than destinations. Asteroids are NOT taken seriously by the majority top astrologers and whilst they do use SOME intuition, they always have a framework of the basics. There has to be a foundation to build on. Demetra George is probably one of the most well known astrologer using the 'roids along with Zane Stein who likes the centaurs.

I've noticed Moon/Uranus showing up a lot with name changes ~ or the sign of Aquarius.

@ Mirage ~ Thanks for keeping your mind open enough to at least think about it. And thanks for seeing that I'm just trying to "put bumper pads in". For me; it's about accuracy and the more accurate the meaning means it's more likely to be accurate for someone looking at their own birth chart. If it's not close enough to the mark ~ it won't resonate and if it happens enough times then "astrology" gets dismissed as useless.... and I think [obviously ] that astrology can hold an enormous amount of symbolic meaning.

We can't just make it up as we go along ~ well we can if we're just having a laugh... but then it's doesn't really "mean" anything.

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