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Ami Anne
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posted July 22, 2012 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this is a big task but I will endeavor to study them, if someone will research them. Please keep the orbs up to 3 degrees for a conjunction and 1-2 degrees for any other aspect.
With Fixed Stars, I think it is up to a 2 degree orb,too, but I am not sure.
Thanks so much

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posted July 22, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We must find out his birth time as well.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 22, 2012 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can we, IQ? Would an astrologer need to rectify his chart?

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posted July 23, 2012 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was trying to rectify it but stopped when I saw his Adult Friend Finder page lists December 10th as the birthday. This would give Nemesis square Sun exact and Nessus square Lucifer exact. But we need the accurate birthdate. I know with 99% certainty that he has Saturn and Neptune in 12th, and Leo Moon can be an additional trigger for twisted fame when the 12th House is packed along with very harsh asteroid aspects.

If the birthdate is indeed 10th December, then 8:09 AM could be the birth time.
This will give an 8 degrees Capricorn Rising.

Pluto and Uranus dynamic would trigger this Axis. Asteroid AURORA is at 8 Libra for this demon and Leo Moon at 17 degrees, in the 8th House.

Sabian of Ascendant:
An Angel carrying a harp.
Sabian of Moon:
A Chemist Conducts An Experiment For His Students

The Sabians look chillingly pertinent for an MK-Ultra experiment using a PhD Student...\

But I cannot say for sure unless we get a clarification from a birth certificate.

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posted July 23, 2012 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So far I'm seeing two potential birthdates for this guy. Dec. 10th, based on what iQ said about his adult site profile, and the Dec. 13th date I'm seeing on other sites.

12/10/1987, assuming San Diego, CA, birthtime unknown:

12/13/1987, assuming San Diego, CA, birthtime unknown:


The 12/10/1987 chart gives a potential Grand Trine, depending on placement of moon depending on time, between Jupiter in Aries, Moon in Leo, and Sun in Sagittarius. This also has Mercury conjunct Lucifer in this scenario, both of which in this scenario trine Eris in Aries.

The 12/13/1987 chart gives a potential Grand Cross, assuming a 2-degree square to the nodes by Uranus in Sagittarius and Chiron in Gemini being correct, and also, depending on birthtime, the Moon possibly with the South Node.

In both, Pholus is conjunct Algol. Also, in both, the North Node is with Scheat in Pisces by less than a degree. Also, Uranus conjuncts Galactic Center, and Chiron MAY be outside of orb (slightly more than 2-degrees) for fixed star Betelgeuse. Varuna is also within 3 degrees of Chiron, although I am uncertain if that's in or out of orb for those two. (It's on the opposite side of Betelgeuse from Chiron).

We also have Anubis conjunct Spica, Damocles with Juno in Pisces, Pyrrhus conjunct Achilles in Cancer, as well as Siva conjunct Dejanira, also in Cancer. Sedna, however, may be out of orb of Chaos in Taurus (2.25 - 2.5 deg orb).

I'll also say that from the very beginning, I've been feeling a "Mind-Control" vibe akin to MK-Ultra all over this. Looking at this guys eyes in those pics, there's knowledge but there's also no one home. I'm absolutely convinced this guy was triggered somehow, and his graduate studies make him a perfect candidate. But to what end?

Concerning his Draconic Charts, what you see is what you get. There's virtually no difference between Natals and Draconic for this guy due to the Node position in Pisces, very close to the Aries zero-point.

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posted July 24, 2012 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the asteroids. Did you look up Pholus? Pholus explodes what it touches.

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posted July 24, 2012 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thanks for the asteroids. Did you look up Pholus? Pholus explodes what it touches.


I think Pholus was included on the chart posted here on this thread.

I did some research on the Fixed start it tightly conjunct, Algol, I believe - ALG abbreviated from astro.com. I totally agree with Pholus blowing up and forcing what it touches to come to immediate light, but at random and unpredictable times.

James has his Pholus tightly conjunct Algol, considered by one astrology site: "Of the nature of Saturn and Jupiter. It causes misfortune, violence, decapitation, hanging, electrocution and mob violence, and gives a dogged and violent nature that causes death to the native or others. It is the most evil star in the heavens." James has Pholus retrograde in Taurus. Taurus is an extremely stubborn, fixed sign... not good in terms of, sudden explosions.

According to the site above, if Algol conjuncts a major planet of identity like the Moon or Sun it could give one the possible 'victory over others' like, in the old days it was discovered, in battle. This lit up in my mind, that maybe James' Pholus-Algol conjunction touching his Sun, quincunx I believe, would make James totally shocked but pleased that those evil feelings inside dying to explode forth actually came to fruition. Suddenly, he garnered power over others due to Algol's influence, but this one act has dominated the news sphere of our entire country and has probably blown up far larger than he even expected. It seems that James went about the execution like he was playing a game - dying his hair, sitting in sullenly, angrily and reclusively for months and buying things on the internet to perform the act. Dressing up as a Batman character to make it all the more gaudy and less like a serious crime. The Algol-Pholus influence on James' Sun and other planets like Uranus and Saturn make me believe that James wanted a prominent place in society, like you said Ami, about his 10th house Mars in Scorpio; but his inner evil and hatred that he believed could make him stronger ended up destroying his core identity. In the end, Pholus-Algol overpowered his Sun, Uranus and Saturn Sagittarius combo.

The quincunx, one site describes, is the 'never in my wildest dreams' aspect and can be described as one planet saying to another, 'you want me to WHAT?!'. James wanted to take out his inner rage and hatred onto others to pacify his 12th house Sun, but his 12th house Sun, a Sun built on sorrow and insecurity, was unsure and hesitant about taking action this way. But Pholus explodes, and Algol exploded into James' life with the movie massacre. With Pholus on Algol evil exploded in, at first, due to the retrograde; along with the other intensely terrible planetary positions and aspects in his chart this combo does not help in terms of thinking peacefully... but it did eventually come out.

I wonder if this fated influence will even make James die for what he has done. As I said, on the site about fixed stars, having Algol conjunct a personal planet of identity leads one to often trump and overtake others in evil and dangerous situations if Algol is culminating. But in any other circumstances, certain contacts can give one a violent death or make one prone to murder, or being murdered. Taurus Algol quincunx James' Sagittarius Sun makes me wonder if he will NOT get away with what he has done, and get the death penalty. The stress of James' 12th house Sun lead him into murdering through Algol's influence. He did the unthinkable due to this quincunx aspect - which is precisely what can happen with the quincunx, the unthinkable.

Sorry for the long post, but I'm totally fascinated and disgusted by it all...

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posted July 24, 2012 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
REGARDING JAMES HOLMES' CHART---

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Originally posted by iQ:
We must find out his birth time as well.

YES!! We need to CORRECTLY do this! PLEASE???? Otherwise this would just be JUNK astrology. Awwww.... please? Let's keep this REAL?

The HOUSE each planet/asteroid occupies --- the ASCENDANT --- can completely change the way the chart is read.

We're dealing with actual REAL life events. This is not "cartoon land"; it's REAL life. He was not a 'fictional' character out of a movie--- this was a real man, and real blood was shed!

Please, to honor ALL the victims--, please let's watch out for one another. We've gotta be good citizens of the world... let's do this thing 'right' okay?

There's gotta be someone here with a birth-certificate subscription, or someone who would know the lawyer to ASK her?? or the family?

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posted July 25, 2012 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW SS
Pholus conjunct Algol. That says it all! I am overwhelmed with that one. I can barely believe it.
Pholus explodes what it touches. Algol is the worst Fixed Star out there.

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posted July 25, 2012 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I think Pholus was included on the chart posted here on this thread.

I did some research on the Fixed start it tightly conjunct, Algol, I believe - ALG abbreviated from astro.com. I totally agree with Pholus blowing up and forcing what it touches to come to immediate light, but at random and unpredictable times.

James has his Pholus tightly conjunct Algol, considered by one astrology site: "Of the nature of Saturn and Jupiter. It causes misfortune, violence, decapitation, hanging, electrocution and mob violence, and gives a dogged and violent nature that causes death to the native or others. It is the most evil star in the heavens." James has Pholus retrograde in Taurus. Taurus is an extremely stubborn, fixed sign... not good in terms of, sudden explosions.

According to the site above, if Algol conjuncts a major planet of identity like the Moon or Sun it could give one the possible 'victory over others' like, in the old days it was discovered, in battle. This lit up in my mind, that maybe James' Pholus-Algol conjunction touching his Sun, quincunx I believe, would make James totally shocked but pleased that those evil feelings inside dying to explode forth actually came to fruition. Suddenly, he garnered power over others due to Algol's influence, but this one act has dominated the news sphere of our entire country and has probably blown up far larger than he even expected. It seems that James went about the execution like he was playing a game - dying his hair, sitting in sullenly, angrily and reclusively for months and buying things on the internet to perform the act. Dressing up as a Batman character to make it all the more gaudy and less like a serious crime. The Algol-Pholus influence on James' Sun and other planets like Uranus and Saturn make me believe that James wanted a prominent place in society, like you said Ami, about his 10th house Mars in Scorpio; but his inner evil and hatred that he believed could make him stronger ended up destroying his core identity. In the end, Pholus-Algol overpowered his Sun, Uranus and Saturn Sagittarius combo.

The quincunx, one site describes, is the 'never in my wildest dreams' aspect and can be described as one planet saying to another, 'you want me to WHAT?!'. James wanted to take out his inner rage and hatred onto others to pacify his 12th house Sun, but his 12th house Sun, a Sun built on sorrow and insecurity, was unsure and hesitant about taking action this way. But Pholus explodes, and Algol exploded into James' life with the movie massacre. With Pholus on Algol evil exploded in, at first, due to the retrograde; along with the other intensely terrible planetary positions and aspects in his chart this combo does not help in terms of thinking peacefully... but it did eventually come out.

I wonder if this fated influence will even make James die for what he has done. As I said, on the site about fixed stars, having Algol conjunct a personal planet of identity leads one to often trump and overtake others in evil and dangerous situations if Algol is culminating. But in any other circumstances, certain contacts can give one a violent death or make one prone to murder, or being murdered. Taurus Algol quincunx James' Sagittarius Sun makes me wonder if he will NOT get away with what he has done, and get the death penalty. The stress of James' 12th house Sun lead him into murdering through Algol's influence. He did the unthinkable due to this quincunx aspect - which is precisely what can happen with the quincunx, the unthinkable.

Sorry for the long post, but I'm totally fascinated and disgusted by it all...



You are making wonderful contributions imho
Please, keep sharing them, as we all can learn from them!

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posted July 25, 2012 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
WOW SS
Pholus conjunct Algol. That says it all! I am overwhelmed with that one. I can barely believe it.
Pholus explodes what it touches. Algol is the worst Fixed Star out there.


I'm glad the contribution was helpful!

This entire thing is disgusting, horrific and deeply depressing to me. I couldn't help but analyze the chart to determine what else could be making this happen. I think we underestimate how deeply fixed stars can affect us. I even have the fixed star influence myself, Antares conjunct ASC, and for this reason some mistake me more for a Fire sign on first meeting due to my extremely strong come-on or sometimes the water sign Scorpio if we get to know each other better. For James unfortunately, his Pholus-Algol was really stressing his Sun and other planets out a lot. Algol was dying to burst through with Pholus' pack of punch somehow... and it did the unthinkable in his life. I mean, it all fits: he was a quiet, nerdy kid, and this is how he takes his supposed revenge on society for not doing well in school.

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posted July 26, 2012 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After I finish each natal placement with planets, I will go on to asteroids and fixed stars. This will be an ongoing process of several weeks, I think.

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posted July 27, 2012 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweet Scorpion
Would you be willing to help me to research the asteroids in is chart?

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posted July 27, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sweet Scorpion
Would you be willing to help me to research the asteroids in is chart?


Yes, of course. Thanks for asking me to help!

I have enough free time to do research about how the asteroids play out for James. Doing the Algol-Pholus was really interesting and I'm actually quite curious to see if James has anything else that indicates tendencies towards murder/death obsession/anger and rage.

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posted July 27, 2012 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probability to give pholus conj algol blame on what he done is small. To many people have this conj ..... People born from 1 nov 1987 up to 1 april 1988 have this one. Everything start from how we think and feel...Nothing will start without one thought..
Mercury and moon are most important from the beginning...

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posted July 27, 2012 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Yes, of course. Thanks for asking me to help!

I have enough free time to do research about how the asteroids play out for James. Doing the Algol-Pholus was really interesting and I'm actually quite curious to see if James has anything else that indicates tendencies towards murder/death obsession/anger and rage.



I am working on the asteroids now. I have found some very interesting things like Karma conj Nessus

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posted July 27, 2012 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also karma conj nessus drabbed everyone born 1988...I dont believe on that either,,sorry

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posted July 27, 2012 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He had Narcissus conjunct his Mars/Pluto conjunction

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posted July 28, 2012 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by popcorn:
Also karma conj nessus drabbed everyone born 1988...I dont believe on that either,,sorry

That is OK, Sweetie. How have you been?

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posted August 03, 2012 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh wow he is born one day before my best friend...

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