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TheManticore
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posted August 04, 2012 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have just recently started into the study of asteroids and I can't seem to find anything conclusive on Pallas.

All I have found is this description...

"Pallas: shows our ability to recognize patterns, to arrange and re-arrange things."

Any and all information will be appreciated .

My Pallas is in the 2nd house in Aries.

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posted August 04, 2012 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Second house rules money and possesions... So good with money etc

Aries iam familiar with lol (venus in aries here) impulsive, quick... Chargeeeeee ahead!!! Aries like competition, it drives their soul... So competitive and risk taker in achieving possessions?!

Iam still learning astrology so dont mind me if iam way off base.

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posted August 04, 2012 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heh, have you not checked the Interwebs? There's all kindsa stuff on Pallas, and, like most, it ranges from astrologer to astrologer, camp to camp.

Among my understanding, Pallas is:

* Creative intelligence and innovation.
* Intuition
* Strategising, (and yes, pattern-recognition)
* Relationships between fathers and daughters
* How and why we seek approval from authority figures, or why not, if we don't.
* Telepathy - (according to some sources)
* Sense of individual justice (not relationships - that's Juno)

She's somewhat related to another asteroid, Minerva; now, as to what distinguishes them - THAT's where you'll find things less to your immediate perusal.

But just Google 'pallas asteroid astrology' and take your pick. There's a lot.

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posted August 04, 2012 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i remeber looking up the diff asteroids on my chart and comparing it to my guys... Mine falls in libra 5H vs virgo 9H

The traditional house meaning helps understand how the asteroid energy is applied best i think.

I hoped i helped a little bit. Aries i know cuz. I feal mine pretty strongly. Impulsive lol risk taker.

But aries and money are not generally a very good pairing. Combative and spendthrift

What about the mythology behind pallas, what did you think of it? Do you think it fits nicely with the arian energy?

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posted August 04, 2012 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pallas is tribal woman wisdom such as the wise elders of tribe possessed.

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posted August 05, 2012 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Creative Intelligence [especially in strategic battles] and Pyschic/Telepathic Powers are the dominant themes of Pallas.
Pallas conjunct Moon or Neptune can create amazing Clairvoyance.

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posted August 05, 2012 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
iQ, what about a Moon opposition instead of conjunction?

Like TheManticore, I also have Pallas in Aries, 2H. I have a Moon-Pallas opposition, 0°14' orb. I'm trying to determine if it's more of a Pallas influence, or if it's strictly my Sun-Telephus conjunction at play and an 8H placement for my Moon.

@TheManticore: Pallas in 2H seems to manifest more as a "knack" for money management. Obtaining and spending are separate, but the actual organization and allocation of it is not a problem. Arian energy does seem to lend a bit of recklessness and aggressive drive though. How's your 8H look? I have the stabilizing nature of Saturn-Jupiter conjunction there which seems to ward off any suddenly fallout or poor decisions.

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posted August 05, 2012 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Creative Intelligence [especially in strategic battles] and Pyschic/Telepathic Powers are the dominant themes of Pallas.
Pallas conjunct Moon or Neptune can create amazing Clairvoyance.


What separates the creative intelligence of Pallas with the intelligence of ones Mercury?

As far as the clairvoyance I don't have either of those placements but I do have Sun trine Pallas exactly. Does that have any similar meaning?

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posted August 05, 2012 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
iQ, what about a Moon opposition instead of conjunction?

Like TheManticore, I also have Pallas in Aries, 2H. I have a Moon-Pallas opposition, 0°14' orb. I'm trying to determine if it's more of a Pallas influence, or if it's strictly my Sun-Telephus conjunction at play and an 8H placement for my Moon.

@TheManticore: Pallas in 2H seems to manifest more as a "knack" for money management. Obtaining and spending are separate, but the actual organization and allocation of it is not a problem. Arian energy does seem to lend a bit of recklessness and aggressive drive though. How's your 8H look? I have the stabilizing nature of Saturn-Jupiter conjunction there which seems to ward off any suddenly fallout or poor decisions.



The money management makes sense, also I tend to organize my other stuff quite well, clothes, furniture etc. Although that might be because of my mercury and venus in Virgo.

My 2nd house cusp is also in Aries so yeah, sometimes I have problems with being loose with the change . My 8th is in libra, no planets there except Lilith in Libra. Which I probably need to get around to studying as well.

BTW it's cool we have the same placement of Pallas!

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posted August 05, 2012 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have pallas in 6h aries

pallas to me represents "the daughter" and upheaval of some degree. here the 6h interpretation is having a #battleplan:

from astrofix.net
Having a strategy for daily activities and routines. Having a battle plan at work. Having a battle plan for health, diet and exercise. The ability to see how health and diet fit into the big picture. Holistic understanding of health and diet. Holistic understanding of working conditions and labor. Having a strategy for working with animals

Read more: http://astrofix.net/2010/06/19/pallas-athene-in-houses/#ixzz22hw8gFGs


i have it conj desc, with my sun in 6h too, it could be representative of my relationship with my capricorn father, and though he wasnt round long when i was growing up - the kind of hard working, service to other values he instilled in me

my financial planning sucks tho - aries do struggle in this dept - ive just always worked hard enough to keep me in my accustomed way of living

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posted August 05, 2012 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TheManticore:

The money management makes sense, also I tend to organize my other stuff quite well, clothes, furniture etc. Although that might be because of my mercury and venus in Virgo.

My 2nd house cusp is also in Aries so yeah, sometimes I have problems with being loose with the change . My 8th is in libra, no planets there except Lilith in Libra. Which I probably need to get around to studying as well.

BTW it's cool we have the same placement of Pallas!


Pallas in 2H also indicates an anal-retentive need to keep your personal possessions in order. All my Blu-ray movies and games are ordered alphabetically and by platform, and it drives me crazy if anyone touchs or changes anything. I also have my closet sorted by season [sleeveless to short to long sleeves], and color. Heck, I even fold my dirty laundry ["warm" and "cold" piles respectively]. XD; This might be a prominent factor among those with OCD-like behavior.

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posted August 07, 2012 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pallas in Gem conjunct my ASC and Mercury. Most interestingly, Pallas is also exactly conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint. I definitely have a very developed ability when it comes to pattern recognition. I can usually see patterns really early on in both my life as well as other's lives.

I've had to learn the hard way to keep my mouth shut about that though

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posted August 07, 2012 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Pallas in 2H also indicates an anal-retentive need to keep your personal possessions in order. All my Blu-ray movies and games are ordered alphabetically and by platform, and it drives me crazy if anyone touchs or changes anything. I also have my closet sorted by season [sleeveless to short to long sleeves], and color. Heck, I even fold my dirty laundry ["warm" and "cold" piles respectively]. XD; This might be a prominent factor among those with OCD-like behavior.


This sounds freakishly like me lol, if people move my stuff around or disorganize it I go ballistic!

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posted August 07, 2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sorcha:
I have Pallas in Gem conjunct my ASC and Mercury. Most interestingly, Pallas is also exactly conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint. I definitely have a very developed ability when it comes to pattern recognition. I can usually see patterns really early on in both my life as well as other's lives.

I've had to learn the hard way to keep my mouth shut about that though



I disagree, I think you should point out peoples problems to them MORE often, they love that... hehe .

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posted August 07, 2012 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't say that I was pointing out people's problems, just that I often notice patterns about them. And there are times when people get uncomfortable about someone observing something about them that they may not have been conscious of themselves.

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posted August 07, 2012 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sorcha:
I didn't say that I was pointing out people's problems, just that I often notice patterns about them. And there are times when people get uncomfortable about someone observing something about them that they may not have been conscious of themselves.


I didn't mean it in a mean way . I was making fun of how people don't normally like to face things about themself like you say, most people would interpret it as you pointing out problems when you are just observing patterns.

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posted August 09, 2012 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't think you were being mean Just wanted to clarify.

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posted August 09, 2012 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One has to be fearless with Astrology. My feeling is don't do your chart( or ask for help from someone) if you don't want to face yourself.
It is such a wonderful opportunity, unlike any other. I am for the people who want to face everything as truth is love, to me.

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posted August 09, 2012 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was not addressed to anyone here, just a general POV on Astrology.

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posted August 09, 2012 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
One has to be fearless with Astrology. My feeling is don't do your chart( or ask for help from someone) if you don't want to face yourself.
It is such a wonderful opportunity, unlike any other. I am for the people who want to face everything as truth is love, to me.


I'm a Sag Sun - truth is paramount. I have an insatiable drive to know. Including all the nitty-gritty, less savory aspects about myself. Of course, I think having 5477 Holmes conjunct my Sun, 5050 Doctorwatson conjunct my DC-NN, and 5049 Sherlock conjunct my PoFortune might factor in a bit there.

As the adage goes, "knowing is half the battle". Aside from "doing", what else is truly worthwhile in the world?

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posted August 09, 2012 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sorcha:
I didn't think you were being mean Just wanted to clarify.


Cool

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posted August 09, 2012 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
One has to be fearless with Astrology. My feeling is don't do your chart( or ask for help from someone) if you don't want to face yourself.
It is such a wonderful opportunity, unlike any other. I am for the people who want to face everything as truth is love, to me.



I wholeheartedly agree .

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posted August 10, 2012 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ - can you explain the connection between Pineal Gland Activation and the asteroid Pallas.

I have an exact minor grand trine involving Pallas. ie. Sun (2nd house) sextile Jupiter (12th house) ; sun sextile Pallas (4th house).......... and Jupiter (12th house) trine pallas (4th house).

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posted August 10, 2012 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have pallas in the 7th in Leo. What do you think of it. It I'd also conjunct An ex asteroid name

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posted August 11, 2012 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Taineberry,
The connection I have observed is in the probability. Whenever Pallas is strongly aspected by planets [Mostly Moon, Neptune and Jupiter], the probability of activating the Pineal Gland or 3rd Eye to gain Clairvoyant Gifts rapidly increases.

In my own case, Asteroid PALLAS is not aspected by planets and hence I have to rely on Mathematics for metaphysical investigation.

There might be people who have Pallas conjunct Anubis trine Neptune. They will see ghosts easily [once the 6th CHakra is activated].

Those with Pallas conjunct Hygiea conjunct Jupiter may heal with sheer force of the Mind by visualizing healing light from the Pineal Gland.
Sure, others can do this too with practice but if it takes hours to have a noticeable change in normal people, the people with aspects will deliver results in minutes.

Pallas square Hekate conjunct Eris is an example of a potential to be a powerful black magician who will use chaos to attain his goals.

Pallas conjunct Siva will give amazing mastery of Yoga in breathing and sensing the Prana of breath inside the Mind.

Pallas conjunct Kaali will allow Kundalini to safely rise to the 6th Chakra and stay there as long as the Yogi chooses.

And so on.


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