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Junethird
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posted August 14, 2012 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lately ive been so fascinated by asteroids lol and ive been busy reading up on the waldemath moon, Aka the dark moon lilith. I understand lilith is about our inner darkness and finding freedom from it... I think lol

H58 waldemath

Mine falls on aries 12H 28' 45'19
My lilith falls in sag

It conjuncts my venus (aries 23'40'20)
And trines my neptune/lilith (sag 26'15'50 retro)
Opposite my mars/saturn/jupiter/Pluto (libra)

My guys also has it in aries 5H 2'10'12
And trines his mars (leo 11'2'54)
Opposite his mercury/pluto/jupiter/saturn (libra)
Lilith is in scorpio 12h 29'30'59 conjuncts his ASC and venus. (sooo close to sag and conjunct my own lilith)

Combined, our dark months conjunct each other in aries. Our dark moon trines his mars and my venus. His lilith trines my natal moon(cancer)

What do you think this say about Attraction, sex, lies and deceit?

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posted August 14, 2012 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this about lilith in the signs but nothing about the Waldemath Moon.

By making peace with and embracing our own darkest emotions, we can integrate ourselves. Lilith is one of the keys in astrology which can help us attain that goal. astrotribe.tribe.net/thread/...eb36e110

Aries - Lilith in Aries is straight-forward about her sexuality and may use it to feel powerful. Applied in a negative manner, there may be temper tantrums or bratty behavior.

Taurus - Lilith in Taurus may hide money or possessions, and there will be a great deal of secrecy regarding finances. This can also indicate miserliness, or a refusal to share one's resources with others.

Gemini - When Lilith hides herself among the twins, she may exhibit a chameleon-like ability to be whoever she must be at the moment, hiding her true thoughts and feelings. If used improperly, the native may be considered "two-faced" or be a vicious gossip.

Cancer - Hidden emotions may come out in ways that affect the physical health. When expressed in ways that are healthy, Lilith's influence here makes the native a powerful parent, or an activist for the protection of children. When negative, there may be chronic or psychomatic illness, or the tendency toward martyrdom.

Leo - Lilith in Leo wants to be admired, but she'll never admit it. In creative expression, she will do things her own way and never feel obliged to explain herself. Taken to extremes, she becomes the prima donna, demanding and unforgiving.

Virgo - Lilith in Virgo will often make the native very secretive or repressed in their sexual expression, and there will be much attention to hygiene and health-related details. When negative, Lilith in Virgo can be very cold and aloof, or extremely critical of the habits of others.

Libra - Lilith in Libra may find herself concerned with the legalistic side of power. She is a defender of women here, supportive of laws that curtail abuse or sexual crimes. Taken to extremes, Lilith in Libra may be vindictive against those she perceives to be offenders, and in relationships may be clinging, jealous or manipulative.

Scorpio - There are some astrologers who believe that Lilith is the co-ruler of Scorpio, along with Pluto. When placed here, she is powerfully sexual, hypnotic, seductive and wise. When under a negative influence, she can become bitter, vengeful or obsessed.

Sagittarius - Lilith in Sagittarius may hide her emotions beneath a facade of humor or a mask of "niceness." She may keep her personal philosophies secret from others, keeping her own counsel. In the negative, this placement can indicate haughtiness, self-righteousness, and prejudice.

Capricorn - Lilith in Capricorn will hardly ever share any emotions, and these natives may seem unapproachable. Achievement and status will be the method employed to feed the hidden need for emotional contact. At its extremes, here is the anal retentive who must control everything.

Aquarius - Lilith in Aquarius will probably mask the hidden emotions with a series of ever-changing kaleidoscopic surface emotions, and will seem fascinating and elusive to others. The native may be chimerical, fluttering like a fairy from one situation to the next. At its worst, Lilith in Aquarius is irresponsible, remote, and refuses to listen to others.

Pisces - Lilith is already secretive, and doubly so in Pisces. This is usually the person who has emotional wounding buried so deeply that they don't even know it themselves. Lilith's placement here may instigate behaviors which even the native finds baffling, and is often associated with passive-aggressive and unconscious behavioral patterns.

http://tribes.tribe.net/darkmoongoddesslilith/thread/9e767733-ecfc-4517-a573-bd8eb655 0cb3

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posted August 15, 2012 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the Waldemath's Moon in Gemini house 1 and it's not prominent in my chart.

Though I notice that it opposes asteroid Haiku.

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posted August 15, 2012 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
all the other Lilith's I have are in Scorpio. BML is pretty prominent in my chart

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posted August 15, 2012 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stawr:
all the other Lilith's I have are in Scorpio. BML is pretty prominent in my chart

Hey stawr,

How does the BML play out in your personality, relationships?

Edit: i was reading that pluto/scorpio is its natural placement...

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posted August 15, 2012 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have
bml 17 deg
Pluto rx 17 deg
Moon 18 deg

oh wait the other two Lilith's are kind of prominent too.

one is 22 other is 21 deg in Scorpio house 6
Sqaure 23 deg Mars Aqua house 10
Sextile 24 deg Saturn Capricorn house 9
Conjunct 22 Juno Scorp house 6

I didn't really feel this energy until my late teens.

I also feel like I have a really good bs detector.

Respect is very important to me in relationships.

I never gave into peer pressure with sex when I was in high school. Those guys that where always trying to get me alone p!ssed me off. Resulting in me telling them off.

I was also very vengeful with my parents for not doing anything when a family member TRIED to molest me.
I let them know that was parenting failure, and I become very disrespectful to my parents, and made their life hell for a while.
Though I wasn't technically, and left the room. But I was still damaged for a while from it, and struggled with intimacy and self esteem.
I've come to terms with it now though, my parents where just ignorant, thinking doing nothing will make this go away and not manifest. And that if people like that get away with it, they will continue to try to violate people. (I was the last family member to have this creep put the moves on...but lets just say he got kicked out of his retirement home for violating the lady across the hall)
People like this must have consequences...so innocent people don't suffer and become basket cases.

Enough about that though.
I notice my mind is powerful at times...I've had people kick me when I'm down and in a fragile state. I swore on my life that bad things would happen to them and bad things did happen to them. (yes they are all alive!) But that really would freak me out sometimes...when I would find out bad news about them. And then I would let go and say okay they have suffered enough.

An ex that would oppose me sticking up for myself in the relationship. When it was done and began living away. I decided that his dreams must be haunted by me. And then later he told me that I was haunting his dreams.
He wanted me back, I didn't but I would see him to get closure...since he wanted me back he was trying very hard not to treat me like crap. Actually have him pay out on dates, and listen to me tell him he is a horrible person and not turn around on me and just take it!




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posted August 15, 2012 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't stand phony guys that act like they want a relationship when they barely know me. I don't buy it, if they play that...I make them prove it. And see if they can spend time with me without pressuring me for a commitment and sex. Even when I have committed to guys in the past right away. I don't put out right away...or never!
I've seen too many people buy into guys bs and get humped and dumped. (sometimes vice versa)
I feel like being a late bloomer and having walls up, had made an observer of others for a while.

I'd rather have a guy be upfront about purely lusting me, and just think I'm okay or whatever. Doesn't mean I'm going to, but props for not having to act like a phony and have game.

I've only had casual meaningless sex once. I took it for what it was. If I was craving being cared about I would ignore his booty calls.

Okay finally here is something positive out of my prominent Lilith.

With Lilith being known for wanting to be the one on top like the story goes.
I only feel comfortable being the one on top if the person is right. If I am not that compatible with someone, or if I don't trust the person enough, feel they don't care that much. I wont be able to be on top, and it is just too awkward for me.
I've talked to other girls about this on how it's a venerable position cause the guy can pretty much see everything, and how you have to be really into them.
I finally found someone that is good for me and I am very dominant with him. It just comes natural with him. I do my thing, look into his eyes and he looses it.

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